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On March 26 2016 00:25 Kurumi wrote:
I am voting Tubesock for scum agenda and taking a break, like this guy has been pushing me from his very first post because I dared to make a case and that's his reasoning. Then he proposed policy lynching sandroba out of every lurker for no reason, townreads Vivax without giving any reason - the only reason I see is that they both have been pushing me since their very first post.
Tubesock town hero.
Why do we always lynch a town D1 who sits on mafia? It always happens.
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On March 26 2016 00:59 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:58 sicklucker wrote:On March 26 2016 00:46 rsoultin wrote:On March 26 2016 00:44 sicklucker wrote:On March 25 2016 23:05 rsoultin wrote:
quite frankly, y'all are wasting time even discussing me today ^^
and sand is probably town, which is good i suppose but also makes his read on me especially annoying given it consists of
- her scumread she should be reading town (i'm gonna laugh so hard at you scrubs when i'm dead and rit wins the game)
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- she didn't react to slam (??? um, what?)
like i know you think i'm the scum god after carnival, sandy, but really? lol >< that's pretty pathetic
like, seriously, i really want to lynch scum!rit here or at the very least have someone actually discuss with me why i'm wrong (so i can show you the light >>)...also down for lynching tumble or shape...wouldn't protest slam
the reason i was asking him about his role is it seemed like he couldn't change his shot once submitted given his posting...and that seemed like a 3rd party type role to me rather than a town one cause what sort of bastard host locks in your shot on d1? i honestly don't think he's scum either, cause the enthusiasm resembled more his play in greymist's game lol >< which was what i was referring to in my first reads post
if he's 3rd party (which seems likely given this "i don't know") bit coupled with his other posts, he's not a bad lynch either
i'd prefer scum though
can we lynch rit now? :/ ALong with everything else succmmy about her I think this fake cockyness is her scum trait. Shes sort of cocky as town but in another way I think. shes stupidly confident in her reads not her being a bad lynch. I dont even know what her reads are here reading helps ^^ w/e i have a green check on ritoky + Show Spoiler + yeah you're a sucker or a scumlet, but prob just a sucker tbf ^^ we know Hmmmmm. rsoultin really hints at ritoky being mafia here. so who else is scum
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On March 26 2016 00:59 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:58 sicklucker wrote:On March 26 2016 00:46 rsoultin wrote:On March 26 2016 00:44 sicklucker wrote:On March 25 2016 23:05 rsoultin wrote:
quite frankly, y'all are wasting time even discussing me today ^^
and sand is probably town, which is good i suppose but also makes his read on me especially annoying given it consists of
- her scumread she should be reading town (i'm gonna laugh so hard at you scrubs when i'm dead and rit wins the game)
and
- she didn't react to slam (??? um, what?)
like i know you think i'm the scum god after carnival, sandy, but really? lol >< that's pretty pathetic
like, seriously, i really want to lynch scum!rit here or at the very least have someone actually discuss with me why i'm wrong (so i can show you the light >>)...also down for lynching tumble or shape...wouldn't protest slam
the reason i was asking him about his role is it seemed like he couldn't change his shot once submitted given his posting...and that seemed like a 3rd party type role to me rather than a town one cause what sort of bastard host locks in your shot on d1? i honestly don't think he's scum either, cause the enthusiasm resembled more his play in greymist's game lol >< which was what i was referring to in my first reads post
if he's 3rd party (which seems likely given this "i don't know") bit coupled with his other posts, he's not a bad lynch either
i'd prefer scum though
can we lynch rit now? :/ ALong with everything else succmmy about her I think this fake cockyness is her scum trait. Shes sort of cocky as town but in another way I think. shes stupidly confident in her reads not her being a bad lynch. I dont even know what her reads are here reading helps ^^ w/e i have a green check on ritoky + Show Spoiler + yeah you're a sucker or a scumlet, but prob just a sucker tbf ^^ we know so who else is scum
Hmmmmm. rsoultin really hints at ritoky being mafia here.
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On March 26 2016 01:22 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 01:21 sicklucker wrote:
your a filthy liar I dont remember this at all! why are you all voting boring people rit and kuru aren't boring >> they're scum you should vote kuru with me if you're too daft to vote rit
Pro reads?
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On March 26 2016 01:53 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:rsoultin look at this: On March 25 2016 06:57 Rels wrote:On March 25 2016 06:13 Kurumi wrote:On March 24 2016 23:42 Superbia wrote:
What's the average mafia count in a 21 player game? Assuming there is 3rd party and stuff too (I'm assuming there is). The formula is usually Players/5 rounded down, so that'd be 4 Mafia this game, was there a third party in either of Storm Mafias? On March 25 2016 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town.
I don't understand this paragraph at all. Why does mafia need to follow up on this? The logical/natural thing for them to do if slam is in fact mafia is to wait and see how well it goes/if he gets away with it before acting. Well, I think that they'd use the momentum created by the shot to some end. I have not seen that in the thread, people are not really reading Slam as scum, people are not super focused on people who were pushing gumshoe, I think if Mafia shot gum, they'd want the discussion to be on those points, not any others like we have right now. That's just the world I am in. On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.
Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.
Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.
I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.
As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.
Ritoky probably is in fact VT.
Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there. Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker: What was good in my post you quoted? What are your scumreads and why? I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread. I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it... For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it... WOW This is the kind of stuff that ONLY TOWNIES THINK ABOUT Never lynching Makes Kurumi town not? not really sure why it would?
pro reads!
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On March 28 2016 18:10 ritoky wrote:i just clicked TTs filter and it fucked my head really hard.......i think he is town? kinda?...but i don't... the main reason i don't is that he has both me and rsoul as scum which kinda feels like he is posturing to be on the right side regardless. plus his koshi and vivax reads....they are literally "ezpz town never lynch"; which i don't see for either those seem like really odd reads to be his strongest. he also thinks 2 ppl who claimed vigi are both mafia in slam and kuru; expressly wanting to lynch kuru...but not explaining how claiming a failed kp on koshi is mafia motivated. the main reason i think he is town is 2 observations: 1) in his slam read he posts about how slam was considering shooting kuru, but then trusted kuru's read on gumshoe and shot gumshoe and how that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. and 2) this post: Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 14:29 Tictock wrote:On March 28 2016 11:46 rsoultin wrote:On March 28 2016 11:24 Tictock wrote:On March 27 2016 04:20 Damdred wrote:
I think there are three options really to how the wagons happened.
1) town vs town mafia just did whatever and are spread out and aren't very active.
2) town vs mafia. Rs is only real active mafia the others are in the dnv list.
3) town v mafia all other mafia but rs are on tube saving her.
There's lots of different scenarios but just how the thread feels it feels more like one where mafia isn't trying to disrupt the thread and cause as much chaos over a mislynch.
I could be dead wrong and probably are but it's just a feeling atm.
Ows what do you think who are scum? I can agree that these 3 scenarios are most likely, I'm also wondering if Kuru were scum if his teammates might have been pushing his voters. Though, Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi , Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin Kinda looks to me like scum was piled on Tube to save Rsoul... your reads are kinda awful ^^ i mostly skimmed your post earlier, but you have rit and myself as scum together which is pretty tinfoily at best, i can forgive the ls read even if it's awful cause meh ls he's gonna get scumread whatever and kuru and i as scum together...so basically you've decided that your scum team is completely bussing one another from d1 for no good reason? explain this I didn't say you two were on a team, you were both scum leans but I'm sure not on the same team given how your going at each other. Though since this setup could be multi-faction you could both be mafia (on opposing teams) or some kinda anti-town. I'm not trying to build teams at all, just reading individuals. Also why do you give me a pass on scum-reading LS but not Rit? that bolded part...idk why but it feels really town to me...especially considering he has me leaning scum. i kinda think TT is town...but i am really hesitant about that read.
Mafia this game had really good reads.
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On March 27 2016 06:58 Kurumi wrote:Just in case So, maybe some of you aren't convinced that I am Town, but I believe that Scum have no qualms like that and I am probably going to bite the dust here. While I was wrong on both shoe and Tube, I feel that I was well-grounded on my reads, which people actually have agreed with - seeing that Tube was lynched and shoe was read two-ways based on the same point I brought up. I might've said one thing too much on top of all that, which might seal the deal even more. Anyway, this is why I am writing this post - I believe I have played a strong game and that I am now going to go down because of it. So I gotta leave you with some reads to work with. My proposed Mafia team is: Koshi
ritoky
rsoultin
Ticktock/Stutters695/Tumblewood/VayneAuthority aka lurker-class scum.Now the reasons: For Koshi they are simple and people have picked up on that. First, the list. It's utterly insignificant, unhelpful, but great to look like he is doing something. He also said something about a plan and he - as we can see in the thread, abandoned it without any word on what the plan was and how it was supposed to help Town (What we can gather, his plan was to post the list only and only that, which, as you can guess, I am not going to Town-read at all!). Koshi's played a very wishy-washy game. He voted lots (ritoky, Alakaslam, tumblewood, sandroba, Tubesock), voted lots of flimsy evidence and has defended rsoultin, while townreading people seeing her as scum. He himself admits that. It looks like a good setup to be able to back-pedal on his vote on Tube when things get heated: I was just wrong guys, like look: I was townreading the guys against her! It is especially damning that having such townreads did not make him reconsider his stance on rsoultin. One of the most damning things for me though, besides the wishy-washiness is how he has played the game during the night: this is the moment Koshi is the most active, fearless about the results of the Night kills. He is above that. No worries - Koshi is going to be here on D2! How does he know that? Well, he knows where the KP is going. He knows that KP is not heading his way, unless his team partners decide to be silly pranksters! Look how contrarian to everything he is and how little effort he puts into it: he has those reads only to sow distrust among us. ritoky: His play was questioned before. I once decided that his play was just dumb, but dumb in a Townie way. But after the D1 has ended, we saw no follow-up. No redemption. He made us look at him and then disappeared, while believing he is near confirmed town! I understand that RL reasons are there, but come on, if you plan something, you have the time. So it's a contradiction. Remember that ritoky was defended by rsoultin by the very start and many people around the time of his fuckup have come into the thread and started to throw acussations my way. RSO defends him, Koshi makes no case against him besides saying he is Mafia. The votes weren't on him, only lots of suspicion around. All he has done was to introduce chaos into the thread, his teammate rsoultin dipped too much anyway. Handling by her has been acknowledged and she was up as one of the lynch candidates. rsoultin: Her showing, especially handling the ritoky situation (hardcore defense) her absence for lots of late D1, the vote on me feels like she tried to avoid any responsibility with the lynch. She was fine with what was happening and she was the only one to vote together with Tubesock on me - but made no effort to defend him and herself from killing them. The lurkers... well... it's easier to get disinterested in a game if you are scum, because you know that it needs more effort to work out.
Another mafia who puts rsoultin and ritoky in same mafia team. And he had TT in there as well. So good.
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On March 28 2016 18:46 rsoultin wrote:
Town to Scum...think i've explained or at least talked about most of these but if i forgot i can address it after some sleep @.@
Damdred*
Jat*
LS
sandy
super
rit
koshi
ows
shape
sl*
slam
viva
tt
_________________
va
rels
_________________
tumble
kuru
ye prob shouldn't townlean everyone there but whatevs @.@ one lynch at a time
rit so high suddenly. If rit was actually town I think he would be lower. Got to keep the misslynch alive.
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On March 29 2016 05:29 rsoultin wrote:
pues, i still want a kuru lynch
his tube read seemed ridic fake, and the fact that when i pointed that out people jumped down my throat makes me feel he's even more likely scum
not lynching koshi, btw ^^
Godreads.
I am just going to believe mafia just scumread each other 24/7.
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On April 04 2016 06:43 Superbia wrote:
I am VT btw. It should've been obvious from my reply to Ritoky's car picture.
IF THIS FUCKER HAD THE TOWN ROLE PM
MAFIA HAD THEM
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Reading superbia, ritoky has 0 reasons to shoot him.
On April 04 2016 06:34 Superbia wrote:
Where the hell is Obi? Where the fuck did he go after "that wall wasn't too bad".
On April 04 2016 06:37 Superbia wrote:
I'm not going to lie. If Obi doesn't show up to explain his vote or change his vote, you guys need to kill him tomorrow 100%. No fucking question.
On April 04 2016 06:45 Superbia wrote:
Pray 3rd party is nice.
LS/VA/TW. Kill them.
Look at Obi.
Some town is 3rd p.
These guys might.
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On April 06 2016 18:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2016 06:43 Superbia wrote:
I am VT btw. It should've been obvious from my reply to Ritoky's car picture. IF THIS FUCKER HAD THE TOWN ROLE PM MAFIA HAD THEM
That being said. He just said "I like it" 
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On April 07 2016 01:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Though I will agree with the sentiment that lynching the three of us likely solves the game.
Ritoky has had so many detailed cases on him that I wouldn't be surprised if he were mafia + trying to set up lynches from yesterday.
LS seems like more of a shot in the dark though, considering he should have had no investment in the lynch yesterday and still switched/stuck it out.
once more you fail to give your own opinion on ritoky his game play.
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On April 07 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote:
I wish I had a few bullets atm there's to many people to lynch.
I think the most confusing thing is why rs and everyone just didn't go to koshi when we lynched tt.
Would of been enough votes to push that lynch over so weird.
They couldn't because both ows and rsoultin multiple times said I was town. Esp. rsoultin and OWS had been scumreading TT and townreading me.
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hmmmm So 1 hour left.
Brains are on?
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On April 07 2016 06:00 ritoky wrote:
honestly if you plan to ever lynch me this game you should do it today. there's 0 chance i can be mafia, but you need to consider that if you believe LS or koshi are town that they will not move off me until i am dead because they are scum or donkeys. and i am equally guilty because i think ls is very mafia.
essentially you should either lynch me today or commit to never lynch me the remainder of the game, because in my eyes it is very clear that i am being dragged to lylo for the final lynch for mafia to win.
Explain the bolded. How is mafia doing that?
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And if we lynch ows or ls today and they flip town. How are you not getting lynched in future days?
lol
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On April 07 2016 06:05 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2016 06:01 Koshi wrote:On April 07 2016 06:00 ritoky wrote:
honestly if you plan to ever lynch me this game you should do it today. there's 0 chance i can be mafia, but you need to consider that if you believe LS or koshi are town that they will not move off me until i am dead because they are scum or donkeys. and i am equally guilty because i think ls is very mafia.
essentially you should either lynch me today or commit to never lynch me the remainder of the game, because in my eyes it is very clear that i am being dragged to lylo for the final lynch for mafia to win. Explain the bolded. How is mafia doing that? You're being left alive as direct opposition to me who is a known quantity that won't stop pushing me. People who town read me all game are beginning to downgrade to "unsure, but don't want to lynch today" or similar stances. Other small indicators.
Why did Rels die? I was way less on your ass than he was.
And I was way more town.
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On April 07 2016 06:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2016 05:58 Koshi wrote:On April 07 2016 05:20 Damdred wrote:
I wish I had a few bullets atm there's to many people to lynch.
I think the most confusing thing is why rs and everyone just didn't go to koshi when we lynched tt.
Would of been enough votes to push that lynch over so weird. They couldn't because both ows and rsoultin multiple times said I was town. Esp. rsoultin and OWS had been scumreading TT and townreading me. You keep saying that like it's a bad thing.
try to make sense.
##unvote
##vote OWS
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I am killing people who can't turn their brain on.
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