TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3 - Page 3

On March 24 2016 22:52 Superbia wrote:
Actually my problem lies with Koshi's push, and it doesn't necessarily directly relates to Koshi's alignment, but more to the fact that I feel he may have been spewed by mafia (i.e. people are calling him town too quickly).

I will elaborate. Koshi's "anger-push" on Ritoky was completely unfounded, as Ritoky had gum high in his town-list (a post that was posted pretty much before the shot), as a result of his post (and a small number of other circumstances), Ritoky would've never shot gum. This is somewhat obvious from first glace, and completely obvious after looking deeper into it (even without considering Slam's soft). I felt that the emotion behind Koshi's post was townie, but the content was absolutely not. It was undirected and based on nothing close to logic.

I believe that this does not mean Koshi is mafia, but rather that the people who piled on to calling Koshi town that quickly are more suspect (i.e. I'm the first to bring this up).

On March 25 2016 02:05 Rels wrote:

So you reread my filter just now ?

On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
Wasn't me. Dibs on Slam, he literally spammed the thread saying that he is going to kill someone.
Also, bollocks. I really was wrong. I really was too harsh. I wanted to keep up with that and attack Koshi, but then he decided to play his Town game and break all the vows and rave around. So Koshi moved from a scum-leaning to town-leaning in my eyes. Play after gumshoe's death and his relentlessness about ritoky only proves that. Also, don't do the list only Koshi, because what I am doing right now is giving you a pass for now, not forever.

As for ritoky:
Holy shit dude, your plan... wasn't that... great. Yeah, you've done that and I believe you, but that brought a lot more harm than anything else. As a person who has hosted games and has played in fair share of them, not only hosts give the Vanilla Townie name (and sometimes more) they also offer fakeclaims for every role under the sun. Your argument that revealing VTs would create an impossible-to-combat Town Circle is also wrong, because, well, your assumption was that people who know the name will behave accordingly... which is people being VTs and Mafia.
I think your play is more indicative of a naive townie than a scum. If you were scum, you'd be more blunt about the claim. Maybe claim the name in some disorted way, maybe hint it more strongly, I have no idea, but for sure you'd try to fish for someone disagreeing with you. Another slight-town read.

Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town.

So that's it for the current things. I will look up shoe's filter and wander around in thread as well, because I need another shot of Scumus Readus for both this shift and another or I'll goddamn die.

On March 24 2016 23:07 Superbia wrote:
Who wants to talk to me about the push on gumshoe/timeline? I'm too lazy to run through the whole thing myself atm. Someone give me some motivation.

Starts like this:
1. Superbia starts push on gumshoe for bad opening post and some troll-bullshit.

2? Sicklucker joins push.

4? shapelog calls superbia out for troll-bullshit.
- shapelog has gum as null
- shapelog has superbia as lean-town

On March 25 2016 00:15 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't have a town circle at all (I also do not have a solid townread on Koshi yet - however your read on him is completely irrelevant for the argument that you are asking questions you shouldn't need to ask because those are about his general play and not his play in this game). So no, she is not super high in there. I am not stupid enough to townread rsoultin this early in the game.
My point is that I do not see why anyone would scumread her for what she has posted so far. You aren't automatically scum for going after her. That depends on your reasoning.

On March 25 2016 02:25 Damdred wrote:
SL bad at reading me as usual.

Anyway not much interesting is happening so far shape looks a bit more town he had some ok thoughts at least.

On March 25 2016 02:28 Shapelog wrote:

Yes lets start by you giving us reasons upon which you find them sus. other than they can defend one another as either aligment.

On March 25 2016 02:29 LightningStrike wrote:

Ugh he was town in Star Wars. That was your last scum game you silly goof ball

On March 25 2016 03:51 justanothertownie wrote:

I find the lack of sandroba disturbing.

On March 25 2016 04:32 ritoky wrote:
rsoul is mafia.