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On April 13 2016 07:55 Koshi wrote: But if mafia is truly solo and knew about the sl his role, why did they wait so long to kill him? First Superbia and then sl. I can't see the logic. And then LS, who was going to be the lynch. So dumb... Especially after the claim from him....
I mean we did not know what Forensic Annalist was (we knew it was invest, but did not know what kind) and engi. was cast off as a random role.
Mafia could of claim and prob. lynch SL, and have a bunch of cred. But yet they didn't
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On April 13 2016 08:44 Damdred wrote: The forensic I bet was a coroner type role that showed what the flips actually were. Idk what a Coroner is, but maybe that is possible.
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Home now. Going to look at things if i get spare time, but busy.
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Alright took care of some things (papers) so i am free now!
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On April 14 2016 07:17 scott31337 wrote: Okay, let's do this.
Shapelog what do you think?
Damdred?
I'm pretty sure I know what's going to happen. Let us see. You will be missed koshi.
Mafia (or w/e the fuck is in this game) the last few days, have littlerly pick the worse targets to kill. Now, instead of killing one of you 2 (which mafia has to be one of yall), they have killed LS, Koshi, etc. and not the other, in this case, legit blue. When, as long as the KP gets through to the other role, they would be the only blue role left, and could coast and win.
Which one of yall, Really don't fucking have a clue. I know Koshi called you suppose 3rd party, so the NK also slightly suggests you.
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Lol, Just realized how fuck up this is. First lylo as town, and I am with 2 people who claimed blue roles.
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Scott, what do you think about everything?
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I am at college right now, so I do not have a lot of time to look at things. But i will look at things if i get time.
Again: Scott, what do you think Damdred same question.
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On April 15 2016 03:57 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2016 07:31 Shapelog wrote: Scott, what do you think about everything? I was thinking about it last night - I'm still in Vegas, I should be driving home tonight. so I've been in two LYLO'S as town - Firefly and Guardians. Guardians was my first one, Damdred was in that game as well. I've never been in a LYLO as mafia. I have a strong feeling I'm going to the victim for the third time. + Show Spoiler [Don't read] +In the wise words of Palmar, this turns into - the puppet, the puppetmaster, and the victim. I got a Quickdraw PM in my replacement message I've learned a lot from those two games as town. The first thing would be that even if you are town and know who the mafia is since they go after you - acting 100% that you know the puppetmaster is mafia looks mafia sided to the puppet, because they'll be like "Why are you so sure? it could be me too if you're town, right?" but from your own point of view, it's obvious. I don't want to make that mistake again. The second thing would be is to just re-look over everything, including both filters from the others and re-read parts of the game and figure out intentions from days before - since this day is going to be a lot different. + Show Spoiler [Damdred's list] +On April 09 2016 23:36 Damdred wrote: Right now Ows look at this, why should I 100% know what to do? This game is incredibly hard
Ows- weak town feels, technically is the hammer on Tt putting him one over Tt. On the verge of death didn't care about being,lynched. I don't think,he's scum.
LS- been low impact, but does work when as scythe wouldn't. Dug through my filter to show how I was pushing Tt when people were starting to gain momentum.
Scott- claimed blue, slam bread crumbed the shot very well. It is a poor shot, small activity but cent be the mafia in a solo situation.
VA- super lackluster first 4 days didn't care. Suddenly cares after the tumble lynch hasn't done a lot since the Ritojy lynch. Kinda meh on him.
Koshi- mafia were on him and tumble. Sudden swing on Tt makes it somewhat unlikely with how suddenly it was and how many town was on Tt that koshi was the scum. Plus his activity and craziness and bm make him town.
Shaoe- early game was bad and missed a lot of what he was. Was super right after then and seems to be hyper focused on lynch bait ls. Its possible he was tmi, which is why I'm considering him.
Damdred- claimed blue, can't be a single scum. Can't be scum with Scott, mod message infers he's town. Etc etc I'm a dayvig. Beyond Alakaslam's shot being townie, I'd have to be a rolecop and a dayvig in order to be mafia, which is basically impossible. The only other possibility is that the engineer had a role check night 1 and checked sicklucker.
I could re-write others words but best explained as-
On April 07 2016 06:38 Koshi wrote: scott is never mafia btw. I forgot about the fact it was a silent shot on D1.
Imagine mafia shooting someone the first second of the game for lulz.
Scot is setup wise confirmed town.
HOLY SHIT WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT THINKING OF SHIT LIKE THIS
And in your words -
Scott: - Pretty much it for scott. Maybe, by some kind of crazy setup, Mafia had a factional day shot, and Slam, as a RC, did it to buy massive cred early on. Literally the only way that guy can be mafia.
I'll be back in a bit. What is the point of telling me to reread things, if you are just going to cite things to tell that I should trust you (both my words and others)? After ranting about a puppetmaster lol.
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Also btw! Good news everyone!
Last night was the last day for my follow up appointments about my operation to remove my thyroid cancer!
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On April 15 2016 05:55 Damdred wrote: Hey first time I've been on in a day or so.
Things went for the worst and well I'm sorry I didn't save koshi tbh.
Anyway my first thought is that shape as town shouldn't need to ask me or Scott where we stand. Yesterday he said I'm 100% confirmed because of mod message and amount of blues etc.
It seems like instead of reaching to find a reason to scum read us or one of us (by his past posts it should just be Scott here) he is waiting to see how the tide turns if we will turn on each other and he can just pick who he wants to lynch.
That's ny first thought.
As for Scott he is at least doing work so as of now I am not inclined to lynch him. Him digging through past games and his post with that quote really reminds me.
Also just the sheer number of blues is pretty believable.
As of now shape is my pick for scum and I'm voting him. I also said similar things about scott yesterday.
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Alright, so obv. I am wrong about the numbers of blues in this game. Making it + Show Spoiler + 2 3rd parties: SK(?), and Survivor (?) (using KP now as a guide, since we know that there is one scum) 4 mafia: we know that they had: Engi, goon, doc, RC (depending if RC was engi)/ X 6 blues, of those blues we got at least 1 invest role (engi/frosenics), the other. 1 doc, 1 vig (mutishot), W/e the fuck Drill Sargent was. And one of nerf Doc/day Vig 9 Vt's.
That means there are 2 set ups here:
Mafia: Engi (RC), goon, Doc, Day vig Blue: Forensics expert (?). Engi (rc), Doc, Vig (mutishoot), nerf doc, Drill Sergeant(?)
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Mafia: engi, goon, doc, Rc Blue: Forensics Expert (?), Engi (?), Doc, Vig (mutishot), Day vig D1, Drill Sergeant (?)
Engineer could actually be RC. hmmm. It is kinda ignoring that we cannot clarified anything.
Day 1 KP: Vivax blocks Kuru (mafia KP) Stutter by Sand ??? By super (Sk kp.) Maybe another KP onto SL.
JaT was to be hit, according to Damdred. Hmmm. Either can go either way.
Day 2 KP: Vivax NK by ??? JAT NK by ??? Rsoul NK by ???
None of those make really any-sense tbh. Maybe there was a extra KP that i do not see here. Maybe mafia had 2 KP (3/2 Rounded up)?
Rsoul had to die either by her role, or by Super. (unless, another 3rd party exists :0) hmmm...
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So the reason I am town reading Damdred, is not even to do with what he has done, it is to do with Palmar.
On April 03 2016 02:45 Palmar wrote: Announcement:
Due to language barrier, Damdred had a misunderstanding with my co-host. I understand it sucks that this is part of the game, but the best solution I can think of is to announce it and simply carry on. which makes him 100% town IMO
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Unless, by some horrible, twisted way here, Damdred asked for Information about a role, and the Cohost fucked up and Palmar had to step in.
If that is the case, then fuck this game.
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On April 15 2016 23:41 Damdred wrote: No you agreed I was 100% mod confirmed yesterday, no way I should ever be scum yo you
What was this too again?
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So that means the set up is: Mafia: Engi (RC), goon, Doc, Day vig Blue: Forensics expert (?). Engi (rc), Doc, Vig (mutishoot), nerf doc, Drill Sergeant(?)
I want to look at Rels filter real quick.
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On April 16 2016 00:04 Damdred wrote: You just said you said yesterday that Scott was confirmed.
Scott makes way more sense as town with a day vig. Basically the scum team had a silent shot but decided to hard crumb it and get tons of attention?
why is Scott scum shape Oh yeah! Sorry I am balancing This, work, and other things right now. So i lose my train of thought 
I think I brought up how that play could be made by scum, way back on D1. If not then it was later on. Early on, I fought on the other side though. But now I realize something.
Basically, Knowing Slam (as a coach-student relationship) he could easily done that. I prob. would of done that too tbh. First off, if you do not claim then, you never can claim it later. Period. Town would jump onto the fact you didn't do so.
So instead, You hard crumb it, you make it so obv. that it exists. And after the shoot, you basically just spew the role. And then that gets run into this, which is what you did. If you survive, then boom. You insistently get the cred from it. And all you have to do is coast and win.
Also, remember that post about shooting Rsoul if he could change. We, unless we are missing something, he could of changed it. thinking back, (and now for sure, knowing that Rsoul was mafia), it was a distending move. It could even explain why Kuru felt so fine claiming scum and dieing.
He also is activating differently then he did in XIX (he was vet that game, and confirmed). In that game he really didn't do all this effort or anything, even when the lynch target (PMT) was iffy between her and MA. This one feels way more active.
A course, I don't know w/e the fuck is scott scum meta.
Rels also had some sus. of him when he died as well. Which lines with your protection. (Yet also he did we me like you said)
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Theres more, But I have to go class.
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