TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3 - Page 2

On March 24 2016 09:12 Superbia wrote:


I didn't care for the troll part reply really. I disliked his early try-hard post so I pushed on it to see where it went. Made up the "troll" mind-set mismatch as being alignment indicative (it really is not) to give more juice to the push.

- Like SL for joining. (Good townies need to start placing down votes earlier so we can get more information when gum flips or gets checked at some point.) Actually did not get that much info from it.

- It feels kind of hard to evaluate gum's response, feels like pressuring him further will do nothing. Also I start to lose momentum when I pressure people too much because it feels like I'm being an asshole. He starts off leaning mafia for me this game.

- Dislike your soft-defense on gum. You did see through the part that was bullshit so slightly 'yay' for that, but based on the reads list you gave me you shouldn't have been questioning me like that. Rather: you should have had me at null/leaning-mafia and be evaluating me based on the "wait, that's not really trolling" or whatever part you feel is alignment indicative (this is what you're saying you're doing). But you had me as pretty much your towniest person at that point (lean-town, but whatever, pretty much everyone else was lower) even though you seemed to have doubt on my push.

So what was your town-read on me about?

On March 24 2016 09:25 Superbia wrote:


Meh. I really wanted to call you mafia.

Any new thoughts so far?

On March 24 2016 09:29 gumshoe wrote:
Kurumi is mah top scum read atm. She joined mah wagon around when it was safe, and started prodding at an established weakness with hightened prejudice. Sounds kinda like a basket arrangment of lynch choices, makes me doubt my initial suspiciun of super.

On March 24 2016 10:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Like Vivax are you scum this game? If you aren't you are trying to mislynch me like what Holyflare did to me in Games of Throne -_-

The bolded is a bit suspicious to me cause it's like gummy is trying to tell us how much work he has done to reach his conclusion, which is something he would do to reach a favourable impression. There's also the possibility he wants to give it some sort of statistical reliability which is what he will claim when confronted with this but I believe it's not a townie thing to say, combined with his previous post.

Town lean for the fact that super here really wants to be acknowledged and sees the gumshoe vote as something that he should get credit for, not really the sort of cockiness I expect from mafia. It's a given super is not the D1 lynch.

On March 24 2016 10:22 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly if Vivax is town he this guy atm and needs to see the light:

On March 24 2016 10:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I am normally defensive although variant in degrees of it so that is NAI ritoky.

It's Kurumi and I am a he. I have no idea what a bomb pop is and why it should matter. Yes, I do. I am very vary of ritoky, I like Superbia, LightningStorm. No idea what your sonic post was meant to bring to the thread. You seem to like the idea of gumshoe being town, but you have so far not done much to defend him or anything else. Why are you so careless about your town-read being the main topic so far?

On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
badumdum!

ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol ><

prelim thoughts

- foil and ls = town <- dude, breaking meta? xP
- damdred <-> personality...i sees parallels! (pick me, pick me! unless you're a nasty personality :/ are you a nasty?)
- slam poss policy lynch viz a viz aperture or whatever the fuck that game was...no tricky this time @.@ guess we'll see at the 12hr tick...but if this is end the day early again dropkick time!
- rit...bleh me no likey, though tbh you suck at reading ls anyway so maybe that doesn't mean anything
- kuru holy wot batman o.0 that normal for this dude? don't think i've played with him before
- gum...seen posts like that from him before but i forget alignment...gut says nai

hnnnn

ye i can't remember anything else catching my eye...at least slam might be interesting when i wake up! \o/

On March 24 2016 22:54 rsoultin wrote:
don't know kuru from adam lol >< WoT was kinda awful tho

no one finds it interesting that tumble's already talking about a gum town flip and looking for scum on the wagon? could be lining up lynches...though to be fair gum coulda been looking more townie by then (not sure when exactly he first mentioned it and cba to look it up before class ^^)

pues, that said, i'm out

i'm all for slam/rit wagons right now ^^ go forth and do good work, minions!

On March 24 2016 14:26 Tumblewood wrote:
I'm signing off for the night

On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
Wasn't me. Dibs on Slam, he literally spammed the thread saying that he is going to kill someone.
Also, bollocks. I really was wrong. I really was too harsh. I wanted to keep up with that and attack Koshi, but then he decided to play his Town game and break all the vows and rave around. So Koshi moved from a scum-leaning to town-leaning in my eyes. Play after gumshoe's death and his relentlessness about ritoky only proves that. Also, don't do the list only Koshi, because what I am doing right now is giving you a pass for now, not forever.

As for ritoky:
Holy shit dude, your plan... wasn't that... great. Yeah, you've done that and I believe you, but that brought a lot more harm than anything else. As a person who has hosted games and has played in fair share of them, not only hosts give the Vanilla Townie name (and sometimes more) they also offer fakeclaims for every role under the sun. Your argument that revealing VTs would create an impossible-to-combat Town Circle is also wrong, because, well, your assumption was that people who know the name will behave accordingly... which is people being VTs and Mafia.
I think your play is more indicative of a naive townie than a scum. If you were scum, you'd be more blunt about the claim. Maybe claim the name in some disorted way, maybe hint it more strongly, I have no idea, but for sure you'd try to fish for someone disagreeing with you. Another slight-town read.

Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town.

So that's it for the current things. I will look up shoe's filter and wander around in thread as well, because I need another shot of Scumus Readus for both this shift and another or I'll goddamn die.

On March 24 2016 23:09 Superbia wrote:
Timeline

1. Superbia starts push on gumshoe for bad opening post and some troll-bullshit.

2? Sicklucker joins push.

4? shapelog calls superbia out for troll-bullshit.
- shapelog has gum as null
- shapelog has superbia as lean-town

5? kurumi opens up day with tunnel on gumshoe.

On March 24 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
Forgot about tumblewood guy so let's give him a scum-lean as well.

On March 25 2016 00:37 justanothertownie wrote:

Forgettable people usually have a very high chance of being mafia. It's a legit reason on its own.

On March 25 2016 00:56 Rels wrote:
Slam apparently knew when his shot was going to land:

And posted 25 minutes before it happened:

So him no staying up to see what the guy he shot flipped is super weird.

On March 25 2016 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:

Since you just looked at it - when did he make this post about rsoultin where he says "too late now"? Was this before the second quote? Because if that is the case this is really odd.