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On March 30 2016 22:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2016 22:43 Superbia wrote:On March 30 2016 22:40 Koshi wrote:On March 30 2016 22:39 Superbia wrote:
All right. So we have:
N1:
Mafia KP #1 -> JAT [blocked by damdred]
Mafia KP #2 -> ???
Claimed KP #1 -> Stutters (by sandroba)
Claimed KP #2 -> Koshi (by kurumi) [blocked by Vivax - verrrry likely]
Now there are 3 options for mafia KP #2:
- It was Kurumi's KP.
- It was Sandroba's KP.
- It was on SL (unlikely, imo).
- It was stacked on Stutters (also unlikely, imo).
So we have the 2 claims by sandroba/kurumi.
Sandroba claimed a vigi role that can only shoot once and can only shoot after a misslynch.
Kurumi claimed a vanilla vigi role and from what I recall, had no further restrictions.
In contrast, Slam had a day-vigi role that can only shoot once and only during d1.
When comparing these roles, to me there is a disconnect between Kurumi's and Sandroba's role. I feel like both of these cannot be in the game at the same time. 3 vigis is just on the brink of possible. I just find it really hard to believe that there was a mafia KP on SL or Stutters n1. I think sl might have soaked up a shot. But I don't think he is town. 3p for sure. medic, rb and multiple shot veteran? Kinda too much. Especially if they are all town. I wonder if rb can stop mafia kp... Probably not I guess. Would be really good. But then why is there a town rb? Maybe vs the engineer or the enemy rb.
Nah, pretty sure SL is town. Shared my reads pretty much throughout the game and has been very... "fluid".
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Though to be fair, if it becomes clear there is a second mafia team or third party, lots of people need to be looked into anew.
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On March 30 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
##Vote Kurumi
We'll see what he says.
I will join this first.
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Kurumi what do you make of the missing KP on n1?
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On March 31 2016 04:37 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2016 04:28 Superbia wrote:
Kurumi what do you make of the missing KP on n1? We were lucky.
There's literally 4 KP missing if you include your own if you're town.
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And if we assume sandroba is town.
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So you get blocked by Vivax and JAT gets saved.
That leaves 2 KP.
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On March 31 2016 04:42 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2016 04:40 Superbia wrote:On March 31 2016 04:37 Kurumi wrote:On March 31 2016 04:28 Superbia wrote:
Kurumi what do you make of the missing KP on n1? We were lucky. There's literally 4 KP missing if you include your own if you're town. Or Mafia has 1KP like in Storm 1. Then it's 3 KP missing - mine, 3rd party and one of Mafia trusting sandroba's claim.
Then how do you explain tonight's KP?
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On March 31 2016 04:44 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2016 04:43 Superbia wrote:On March 31 2016 04:42 Kurumi wrote:On March 31 2016 04:40 Superbia wrote:On March 31 2016 04:37 Kurumi wrote:On March 31 2016 04:28 Superbia wrote:
Kurumi what do you make of the missing KP on n1? We were lucky. There's literally 4 KP missing if you include your own if you're town. Or Mafia has 1KP like in Storm 1. Then it's 3 KP missing - mine, 3rd party and one of Mafia trusting sandroba's claim. Then how do you explain tonight's KP? Well you don't think rsoultin was shot by Mafia, do you?
Agreed. What about the other 2?
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There was 3 kp tonight dude.
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On March 31 2016 04:47 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2016 04:44 Superbia wrote:On March 31 2016 04:44 Kurumi wrote:On March 31 2016 04:43 Superbia wrote:On March 31 2016 04:42 Kurumi wrote:On March 31 2016 04:40 Superbia wrote:On March 31 2016 04:37 Kurumi wrote:On March 31 2016 04:28 Superbia wrote:
Kurumi what do you make of the missing KP on n1? We were lucky. There's literally 4 KP missing if you include your own if you're town. Or Mafia has 1KP like in Storm 1. Then it's 3 KP missing - mine, 3rd party and one of Mafia trusting sandroba's claim. Then how do you explain tonight's KP? Well you don't think rsoultin was shot by Mafia, do you? Agreed. What about the other 2? Well, I don't really believe that rso was shot by third party either.
??? then what where how when
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On March 31 2016 04:50 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2016 04:50 Superbia wrote:On March 31 2016 04:47 Kurumi wrote:On March 31 2016 04:44 Superbia wrote:On March 31 2016 04:44 Kurumi wrote:On March 31 2016 04:43 Superbia wrote:On March 31 2016 04:42 Kurumi wrote:On March 31 2016 04:40 Superbia wrote:On March 31 2016 04:37 Kurumi wrote:On March 31 2016 04:28 Superbia wrote:
Kurumi what do you make of the missing KP on n1? We were lucky. There's literally 4 KP missing if you include your own if you're town. Or Mafia has 1KP like in Storm 1. Then it's 3 KP missing - mine, 3rd party and one of Mafia trusting sandroba's claim. Then how do you explain tonight's KP? Well you don't think rsoultin was shot by Mafia, do you? Agreed. What about the other 2? Well, I don't really believe that rso was shot by third party either. ??? then what where how when Her role. Or second Mafia team.
Secondary mafia is essentially third party. Also why this theory?
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On March 31 2016 04:59 Damdred wrote:
A team of 5 with a poisoner isn't the worst idea.
It explains why we still have two mafia kp and a random third one showing up tonight.
There has to be thirdparty/2ndmafia though. Unless someone is making the dumbest play ever.
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On March 31 2016 05:03 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2016 04:59 Damdred wrote:
A team of 5 with a poisoner isn't the worst idea.
It explains why we still have two mafia kp and a random third one showing up tonight. Or 2Kp till 2, which I've seen is pretty popular nowadays.
Why is this your thought process when there is a huge KP difference between n1 and n2?
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Like why do you lean towards KP being reduced. =/
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On March 31 2016 05:07 Superbia wrote:
Like why do you lean towards KP being reduced. =/
Kurumi I'm still struggling with your logic. Can you walk me through why you see things the way you do?
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On March 30 2016 23:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
so as far as the voting analysis/timing of the votes this is what I got.
Tumblewood - Votes rsoultin when he could have voted koshi instead to fight his wagon. 90% town basically, would be a super weird play if he wasnt, so bad its good territory.
Kurumi - On the flip side, he looks terrible from this perspective. He drops his vote on koshi and pretty much peaces out. Doesn't have any interest in the rest of the wagons, 2 of which are confirmed scum. Would explain a lot where some of mafia's KP was day 1 too.
Shapelog - looks pretty good. Votes rsoultin during the tumble wagon gaining speed and then switches to tictock when it is not a throwaway/bus vote. 95% town
Sicklurker - Does the same thing as Kurumi pretty much, ignores all other wagons drops a vote on koshi and thats it. It's unlikely both sicklurker and kurumi is scum but one 100% is.
Damdred/Obi - Pretty much the same person in terms of day 2 voting. They both follow early on the tumble wagon and then vote tictock pretty super late when it would probably be rsoultin/tictock lynch anyway. Hard to know what to make of it. Probably one scum here as well although less confident.
LS/Rels - legit wait to the last second to vote tictock and waited to see how the wagons played out, pretty obvious who I think is more town here. I really wouldnt be surprised at LS being scum , is there any case on why he's town?
So mafia - Kurumi, damdred/obi, LS.
makes sense numbers wise as well.
Now going to look at who thought JAT was super townie, probably gonna take a while
Where am I on this list?
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Fuck this, I'm pretty tired.
I'm going to do some big vote analysis and then sleep.
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EPT
