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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:38 GMT
#2869
On March 26 2016 01:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:04 Rels wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 25 2016 06:57 ritoky wrote:
On March 25 2016 06:38 Rels wrote:
ritoky could you lay out exactly what town benefits you were going for with your plan ?


i spelled it out multiple times, but sure.

i am vt, i know nothing about the setup since it is closed. i have been in closed setups that are basically the same as a normal game and closed setups with 20 players, 19 of which are roles or mafia. i wanted to gauge the nature of how many PRs were in the game while locating all the VTs and narrowing down my potential mafia greatly.

so i angle shot using the name of the role, assuming all town roles are named the same thing and that mafia either didn't get fake role pms or were too careless to reference them and understand what i was doing before it was already too late. the goal was to utilize the picture of the expedition, have people understand it, realize expedition was also in their role pm, and start forming a coalition of townies who understood we were all town based on the understanding of the expedition. from there you have a large block of people who identify eachother as near lock town and there is a vast amount of control over the day phase because of it as well as a smaller pool of people for potentially mafia. it forces mafia into an awkward spot where they have to choose to not PR hunt and leave PRs alive thus costing them a great deal or leave this large block of semi-confirmed townies alive and concede a ton of day phase control. the mafia lose something large either way.

i think it is a pretty well devised plan, apparently i am alone.

But here is the problem:

You as an experienced players should not assume that mafia has no fakeclaims or knowledge about roles. Especially when 2 of the most experienced people of the community are hosting. It is really hard to believe.

That is one of my problem with the plan.
The other problem is that I felt reading your posts that you were trying more to (1) confirm yourself as town and (2) make sure it's obvious it's a plan rather than trying to quietly find VTs to confirm them when you reveal the plan.
Gonna reread to see if that holds up or not.

Rels is 100% town

95% -> 100%
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:38 GMT
#2870
On March 29 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are either ignoring or not understanding my play is absolutely baffling.

It doesn't matter. You will be confirmed mafia tomorrow or I will fight you to the grave.

Grave it is.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:38 GMT
#2872
On March 29 2016 23:33 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
On March 25 2016 08:31 Koshi wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:50 Superbia wrote:
Does anyone still believe Ritoky is mafia?

100% certain mafia.


On March 25 2016 08:31 Superbia wrote:
On March 25 2016 08:31 Koshi wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:50 Superbia wrote:
Does anyone still believe Ritoky is mafia?

100% certain mafia.


Naw. What about tumblewood or rso?

Just random questions all the fucking game.

"am I town to you"
"what about this guy"
"what about this event 20 hours ago"
"what if this would have happened"

Holy shit if he is town. That is just insane how disconnected and terrible he is. Doesn't push thread forward. Doesn't push his reads forward. All reads are completely random 1 lines and a %.


I am killing you this game. Call me mafia all you want, but you are nowhere near good enough to call me bad.

I am not friendly enough to call you bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:40 GMT
#2875
On March 26 2016 02:09 Koshi wrote:
Confirmed Town
+ Show Spoiler +

Likely Town
+ Show Spoiler +
Vivax
Rels
justanothertownie
LightningStrike
rsoultin (no mafia is going to spend 5 pages pushing 2 normally loud people while giving more than enough reads on the side. She helped multiple people get more insight on players (look at the tumble/Tube thing, which mafia wont do for lynchbait players))

Maybe town
+ Show Spoiler +
ObiWanShinobi
Shapelog

Not going to lynch Town
+ Show Spoiler +
VayneAuthority
Alakaslam
Damdred

Null
+ Show Spoiler +
Stutters695 (shoot him)
Tubesock (might be town suckered in by Tumble)

Won't lynch right now Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
Superbia (holy fuck the filter is real, and bad)
Tictock
Tumblewood (Latest townreads were ok but not impossible for mafia to make)
Kurumi

Maybe Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
sicklucker

Likely Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
ritoky
sandroba (this guy is mafia, or not connected to the game yet, I think he is mafia. Basically says rsoultin is mafia because ritoky is 100% lock town, ridiculous.)

Confirmed Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +


This guy is so good at the game. Incredible.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:44 GMT
#2877
On March 26 2016 04:46 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 02:13 Koshi wrote:
My current guesses:
ritoky/sandroba/sicklucker/tumbleweed
Do we know how many mafia there are?


hell koshi there can be two mafia teams! think about it! how mad would you be, be honest?

0% sense

On March 26 2016 04:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 04:45 sicklucker wrote:
On March 26 2016 02:01 Vivax wrote:
We can probably lynch TickTock without any remorse if he doesn't show up.


we can probably let him get mod killed...

He won't be modkilled for inactivity in this game.

soft defending buddy TT.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:47 GMT
#2880
On March 29 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:37 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are either ignoring or not understanding my play is absolutely baffling.

It doesn't matter. You will be confirmed mafia tomorrow or I will fight you to the grave.

Have you ever played with Koshi ?


Yes.

How can you still think he's scum after reading his posts since deadline ?


Because of the timing and the fact that's he's locked in to me being scum. I cannot ignore him for the rest of the game and he's going to continue this shit for the rest of the game regardless of his alignment. He needs to die.

"regardless of alignment" is a lie.

Hilarious how you opportunistically switched from townlean to mafia because things the thread said about my meta. But you can't switch back when everybody xcept sandroba knows I am town atm.

Oh well. It is easier to call me mafia and do nothing else and pray to jeebus something happens.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:51 GMT
#2887
On March 29 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:47 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:42 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are either ignoring or not understanding my play is absolutely baffling.

It doesn't matter. You will be confirmed mafia tomorrow or I will fight you to the grave.

Have you ever played with Koshi ?


Yes.

How can you still think he's scum after reading his posts since deadline ?


Because of the timing and the fact that's he's locked in to me being scum. I cannot ignore him for the rest of the game and he's going to continue this shit for the rest of the game regardless of his alignment. He needs to die.

Seems like OMGUS to me then.
On March 29 2016 23:40 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:38 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Superbia wrote:
You were even in that game, the one I keep recalling. It was rayn's game which ended during d2.

If you're talking to "rayn be nice", I didn't play that one.


No. It was the only game I think rayn ever hosted. I forgot the name. You were third party and the game ended d2 because rayn forgot to add something to the op and we got a random flip from host.

OK got it.


It is extreme OMGUS paired with an earlier mafia read. But mostly massive OMGUS this point.

Then get out of OMGUS 'cause it doesn't prove anything. Koshi is like almost confirmed town for his play after being scumread by the whole day following TT's lynch. He fired up when TT got lynched, at a time when scum are disapointed rather than happy.
If you consider Koshi is town, who is your most likely scum and why ?


Someone. Probably tumblewood.

Remember the time you were still pretending to want to solve this game? Fun times.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:51 GMT
#2889
On March 29 2016 23:50 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:47 Koshi wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are either ignoring or not understanding my play is absolutely baffling.

It doesn't matter. You will be confirmed mafia tomorrow or I will fight you to the grave.

Have you ever played with Koshi ?


Yes.

How can you still think he's scum after reading his posts since deadline ?


Because of the timing and the fact that's he's locked in to me being scum. I cannot ignore him for the rest of the game and he's going to continue this shit for the rest of the game regardless of his alignment. He needs to die.

"regardless of alignment" is a lie.

Hilarious how you opportunistically switched from townlean to mafia because things the thread said about my meta. But you can't switch back when everybody xcept sandroba knows I am town atm.

Oh well. It is easier to call me mafia and do nothing else and pray to jeebus something happens.



Are you often incredibly wrong as town?

Actually yes. I haven't found mafia in the last 2 games.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:52 GMT
#2891
page 60. Slow and boring tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:54 GMT
#2894
On March 29 2016 23:51 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:50 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:47 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:42 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:36 Rels wrote:
[quote]
Have you ever played with Koshi ?


Yes.

How can you still think he's scum after reading his posts since deadline ?


Because of the timing and the fact that's he's locked in to me being scum. I cannot ignore him for the rest of the game and he's going to continue this shit for the rest of the game regardless of his alignment. He needs to die.

Seems like OMGUS to me then.
On March 29 2016 23:40 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:38 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Superbia wrote:
You were even in that game, the one I keep recalling. It was rayn's game which ended during d2.

If you're talking to "rayn be nice", I didn't play that one.


No. It was the only game I think rayn ever hosted. I forgot the name. You were third party and the game ended d2 because rayn forgot to add something to the op and we got a random flip from host.

OK got it.


It is extreme OMGUS paired with an earlier mafia read. But mostly massive OMGUS this point.

Then get out of OMGUS 'cause it doesn't prove anything. Koshi is like almost confirmed town for his play after being scumread by the whole day following TT's lynch. He fired up when TT got lynched, at a time when scum are disapointed rather than happy.
If you consider Koshi is town, who is your most likely scum and why ?


Someone. Probably tumblewood.

Why ?


Because I can't be wrong on everyone.

Pretty sure you can't be wrong on people when you don't even try. Go find post of yourself in which you give a read on somebody longer than 2 lines.

protip: There aren't any. Maybe 1.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:57 GMT
#2900
On March 29 2016 23:48 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 21:38 Vivax wrote:
On March 29 2016 21:14 sandroba wrote:
@vivax yes rsoul's role does sound farfetched, she should be questioned tomorrow about it no doubt.
there is no mention of any refund mechanics on my pm. I seriously doubt kurumi is mafia unless there are 2 mafia teams. I doubt mafia would come out and admit they shot town koshi if they don't know how he survived. Or randomly lie about it on the off chance their medic gets lynched today for that matter.
I wouldn't be surprised if all vigis are town, considering mafia has a doc and might as well have a vet according to your theory.
Honestly I'm impressed at how much koshi has posted, but the easiest explanation is still that koshi is mafia with TT.


Kurumi first said he would keep it secret if his bullet is refunded and in some post he raged that it wasn't. Surely you need to have some sort of opinion on that?

Yes rsoultin should be questioned but why don't you have any questions then, why just tomorrow when the NKs change stuff and you're here now anyway?

SL isn't a vet until he flips, he just claims he got shot cause KP was missing, zero evidence of him being even anything except that he constantly flails about his role and talks about little else lately.

Why is it an easy explanation that Koshi is mafia with TT? Then you would have to disagree with EVERYONE on my list who tried to lynch him yesterday except rso who for probably wifom tried to keep him safe.

On March 29 2016 21:22 sandroba wrote:
based on logic. some dude randomly says he shot you -> you are not playing the game or to your town meta -> nobody claims they saved you -> people end up lynching mafia medic -> you finally start posting.
the easiest explanation is that you are mafia. sure mafia could have randomly role blocked kurumi, and we may very well find a better lynch then you tomorrow, but unless more info about this is surfaced you are not a bad kill.


Dude why would anyone even claim if he saved Koshi? Just why? It doesn't confirm anyone, it doesn't give info that is as valuable as his role, it only is a gift to mafia. Only an idiot would claim medic or jk or whatever happened for the reasons you say. Why don't you know this?

I think you're super scummy now

If you are refering to this I chose to ignore it because it's dumb.
kurumi says he lost bullet. I have no opinion on that. I think it's plausible. He ask hosts - do i have bullet? - no. what opinion do i need on that?
rsoultin questioned - i did ask w/e happened to item, i commented that she didn't tell us shit. It's night, I can't persuade he to do anything.
I didn't say sl is vet, but i do think he is, what does that have to do with anything. He could be vet no? you were the one pulling stuff out of your ass saying one of the vigis is mafia, when it's more likely they are all town. sure maybe even the other 2 vigis are mafia, but I have no reason to believe so.
why koshi thing is the easiest explanation - Because it is
why anyone claim they saved koshi. dunno, the fact is, it is hard to imagine a town doc saving koshi, mafia shooting him, he surviving and mafia coming into the thread saying that the vig'd him and he didn't die, especially with only one flip which came from a town vigi.
I get that you don't think koshi is scum because he is spamming the thread, but there are only 3 options:

kurumi is mafia fake claiming - this would be pretty random, he had no pressure on him to claim anything, if we lynched koshi and he flipped town kurumi would prob be next

mafia roleblocked kurumi - maybe this is the case, I don't find it likely as I believe quite a bit of blues were a bit exposed (especially true if rsoul is town, mafia knew she was prob blue)

koshi is mafia and saved by mafia doc - makes sense, TT is flipped mafia doc and they didn't want to lynch each other. koshi was admitedly not behaving acording to his town meta.

Doesn't matter how much koshi spams the thread, facts are facts.


cpr doc dream is still alive.

but it is 99% mafia blocked kurumi.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 15:00 GMT
#2902
On March 29 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 23:54 Koshi wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:51 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:50 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:47 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:42 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:37 Rels wrote:
[quote]
How can you still think he's scum after reading his posts since deadline ?


Because of the timing and the fact that's he's locked in to me being scum. I cannot ignore him for the rest of the game and he's going to continue this shit for the rest of the game regardless of his alignment. He needs to die.

Seems like OMGUS to me then.
On March 29 2016 23:40 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:38 Rels wrote:
[quote]
If you're talking to "rayn be nice", I didn't play that one.


No. It was the only game I think rayn ever hosted. I forgot the name. You were third party and the game ended d2 because rayn forgot to add something to the op and we got a random flip from host.

OK got it.


It is extreme OMGUS paired with an earlier mafia read. But mostly massive OMGUS this point.

Then get out of OMGUS 'cause it doesn't prove anything. Koshi is like almost confirmed town for his play after being scumread by the whole day following TT's lynch. He fired up when TT got lynched, at a time when scum are disapointed rather than happy.
If you consider Koshi is town, who is your most likely scum and why ?


Someone. Probably tumblewood.

Why ?


Because I can't be wrong on everyone.

Pretty sure you can't be wrong on people when you don't even try. Go find post of yourself in which you give a read on somebody longer than 2 lines.

protip: There aren't any. Maybe 1.


This is literally how I like to play town. I hate doing actual work (i.e. reading long posts, writing long posts).

Show me a game in which you play as town like that. Link me the filter. I'll read it.

You have no clue about what is going on this game. 20 people. You have commented on 6. on 4 people 1 line, on 2 people more. The rest are retarded questions going nowhere.

Show me a game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 15:10 GMT
#2914
On March 30 2016 00:02 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 00:00 Koshi wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:54 Koshi wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:51 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:50 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:47 Rels wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 23:42 Rels wrote:
[quote]
Seems like OMGUS to me then.
[quote]
OK got it.


It is extreme OMGUS paired with an earlier mafia read. But mostly massive OMGUS this point.

Then get out of OMGUS 'cause it doesn't prove anything. Koshi is like almost confirmed town for his play after being scumread by the whole day following TT's lynch. He fired up when TT got lynched, at a time when scum are disapointed rather than happy.
If you consider Koshi is town, who is your most likely scum and why ?


Someone. Probably tumblewood.

Why ?


Because I can't be wrong on everyone.

Pretty sure you can't be wrong on people when you don't even try. Go find post of yourself in which you give a read on somebody longer than 2 lines.

protip: There aren't any. Maybe 1.


This is literally how I like to play town. I hate doing actual work (i.e. reading long posts, writing long posts).

Show me a game in which you play as town like that. Link me the filter. I'll read it.

You have no clue about what is going on this game. 20 people. You have commented on 6. on 4 people 1 line, on 2 people more. The rest are retarded questions going nowhere.

Show me a game.


Database? Check every game I've ever been miss-lynched lmfao. My games change from time to time but I'm pretty sure this game will be similar.

And the questions never go nowhere. I can elaborate on the reason behind every question. I could do this as mafia as well lol. I never do anything without a townie reason regardless of alignment.

Ok. I will check one. Can't do it at work but I will check one and instantly see you are full of shit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 15:11 GMT
#2916
I hope you die as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 15:30 GMT
#2920
On March 30 2016 00:25 sandroba wrote:
Fact is 95% claims made without any pressure come from town. You didn't see TT claiming anything randomly did you?
Only claim I think is probably false is rsoul's, cause it was stalled like shit and was made because of pressure. Breadcrumbs make it more beliavable, but there is also possible scenarios where she breadcrumbs this as mafia (either knowing about the engineer role, or being mafia engineer) . But it was worth a shot keeping her alive since she claimed to have an invention made by stutters, which could have an obvious or verifiable effect which would help us sort it out.

ohyeah. You forgot our mindmeld around rsoultin claim. So sloppy.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 15:33 GMT
#2921
This game is so easy and you people can't figure it out. Just open the last 4 spoilers of my read post and those can only be mafia. It guarantees lylo.

Instead you want to lynch the obvious townies like rsoultin, koshi, kurumi.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 15:42 GMT
#2922
On March 29 2016 23:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 02:09 Koshi wrote:
Confirmed Town
+ Show Spoiler +

Likely Town
+ Show Spoiler +
Vivax
Rels
justanothertownie
LightningStrike
rsoultin (no mafia is going to spend 5 pages pushing 2 normally loud people while giving more than enough reads on the side. She helped multiple people get more insight on players (look at the tumble/Tube thing, which mafia wont do for lynchbait players))

Maybe town
+ Show Spoiler +
ObiWanShinobi
Shapelog

Not going to lynch Town
+ Show Spoiler +
VayneAuthority
Alakaslam
Damdred

Null
+ Show Spoiler +
Stutters695 (shoot him)
Tubesock (might be town suckered in by Tumble)

Won't lynch right now Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
Superbia (holy fuck the filter is real, and bad)
Tictock
Tumblewood (Latest townreads were ok but not impossible for mafia to make)
Kurumi

Maybe Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
sicklucker

Likely Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +
ritoky
sandroba (this guy is mafia, or not connected to the game yet, I think he is mafia. Basically says rsoultin is mafia because ritoky is 100% lock town, ridiculous.)

Confirmed Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +


This guy is so good at the game. Incredible.

Maybe kurumi is mafia though. Just look at that list. Mafia had to take me out. Probably not though.
Mafia biggest mistake was roleblocking kurumi.

Or is the town hero the one who saved me/blocked kurumi?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 15:44 GMT
#2923
VA/Tumble mafia team is what could stop me from being the unrecognized mvp.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 15:47 GMT
#2925
did superbia already explained why he said town would have lost the game if they mlyned again? And why he tried his bestest to make it happen?

Also was there anybody here who thought town would be fucked after a second ml?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
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March 29 2016 15:56 GMT
#2926
If Superbia didn't read his role pm the first 10 pages he is actually worse than me at playing scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
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