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On March 29 2016 03:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Btw Jat, I don't know what you're using to differentiate between koshi's town and scum play because I don't really feel like he's done anything that weird. ... here we are again...
Town Koshi push reads, have understandable reasoning, be very emotional about, be relentless, be active, be obvious town
This Koshi push no reads, have no reasoning, don't be emotional, don't be relentless, don't be active, don't be town
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On March 29 2016 03:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Btw Jat, I don't know what you're using to differentiate between koshi's town and scum play because I don't really feel like he's done anything that weird. ... here we are again... Town Koshi push reads, have understandable reasoning, be very emotional about, be relentless, be active, be obvious town This Koshi push no reads, have no reasoning, don't be emotional, don't be relentless, don't be active, don't be town Compared to his most recent post? What about it?
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On March 29 2016 03:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 29 2016 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Btw Jat, I don't know what you're using to differentiate between koshi's town and scum play because I don't really feel like he's done anything that weird. ... here we are again... Town Koshi push reads, have understandable reasoning, be very emotional about, be relentless, be active, be obvious town This Koshi push no reads, have no reasoning, don't be emotional, don't be relentless, don't be active, don't be town Compared to his most recent post? What about it? Was it not the counterpoint to your case? No?
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On March 29 2016 03:53 Koshi wrote: I really don't understand why people actually think I am mafia tbh. Even the meta is pretty off. I am pretty sure I have not played like this as mafia. It's completely different.
But maybe I evolved a bit. It is easier to evolve my mafia meta to this than it is that you people actually believe I prefer to play town like this. You answered your own question. If you play town like this you are borderline playing against your wincon and I really don't give a shit if I mislynch someone doing that.
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On March 29 2016 03:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 29 2016 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 29 2016 03:47 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Btw Jat, I don't know what you're using to differentiate between koshi's town and scum play because I don't really feel like he's done anything that weird. ... here we are again... Town Koshi push reads, have understandable reasoning, be very emotional about, be relentless, be active, be obvious town This Koshi push no reads, have no reasoning, don't be emotional, don't be relentless, don't be active, don't be town Compared to his most recent post? What about it? Was it not the counterpoint to your case? No? I feel like this conversation is going to get stale pretty fast. Why not? You don't get to avoid every request with a question and then ask me more questions which have obvious answers. Koshis post disproves nothing I said. How about you give YOUR opinion once in a while?
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On March 29 2016 04:00 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 03:55 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:53 Koshi wrote: I really don't understand why people actually think I am mafia tbh. Even the meta is pretty off. I am pretty sure I have not played like this as mafia. It's completely different.
But maybe I evolved a bit. It is easier to evolve my mafia meta to this than it is that you people actually believe I prefer to play town like this. You answered your own question. If you play town like this you are borderline playing against your wincon and I really don't give a shit if I mislynch someone doing that. I will not answer to you anymore. It is obvious you are trying to enrage me taunting me. I will say this once. This lynch is on you, you are fucking horrible not being able to read me, I did everything a good townie would do.Endgame this will never be on me. Of course it will be on you. And the irony is off the charts coming from the guy who hardcore pushed me when we were both town in almost every game we ever played in.
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On March 29 2016 03:58 Koshi wrote: I also don't really know what I can do to "proof" I am town.
Things I did:
1) Gave my reads on everybody in the game constantly, they were updated constantly. A lot of changes were made. 2) Answered questions asked to me. 3) Made twice a list with bullet points on who I think is mafia. 4) My reads are currently still 100% correct. 5) I have not pushed mafia agenda. Nobody here can proof I did. Even as town I could push mafia agenda but even that you guys can't proof. 6) kept up with the game and adjusted my reads based on events.
You can't say I didn't play this game as a good townie would. I just didn't post 15 pages of nonsense and yelled at people. Summary:
You did the bare minimum to be able to survive. You did not push anything.
Is this supposed to be a towncase?
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On March 29 2016 04:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If this falls through I'll probably just roll with Vivax/Jat on their lynch and hope they're seeing something that I don't. Yeah. Why push something or even elaborate on any opinion or read ever. That's just waaay too hard work man.
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On March 29 2016 05:00 VayneAuthority wrote: oh shit deadline is today already? I missed more then I thought I would. These wagons are super confusing to say the least. i think everyone on Tumblewood is town though so nbd. People on rsoultin is a clusterfuck so makes me more hesitant. People on koshi are lynching by merit rather then playing mafia, fair enough not my playstyle though. People on Koshi are lynching Koshi for being scummy. If that is not playing mafia then I don't know what is.
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On March 29 2016 05:06 VayneAuthority wrote: When has he ever spam posted stupid theories and been super belligerent as mafia though and not even attempted to try and look good?
I honestly can't think of any examples or anywhere this game even remotely resembles his mafia play but maybe you know something im missing Never in this game has he been super belligerent unless you are saying refusing to play his towngame is belligerent rather than a thing he can't do anything about as mafia. I also don't remember him spamposting stupid theories.
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Well, I assume that is a list of potential mafia and not a list of "this is how the mafia team looks like". And then it isn't bad at all in my opinion.
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Like what do you people disagree with on that list? That ritoky and rsoultin are both on it? So what? As far as I am concerned they could easily be mafia individually.
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On March 29 2016 05:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 05:25 sicklucker wrote:On March 29 2016 02:20 Koshi wrote:On March 29 2016 02:12 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2016 02:04 Koshi wrote:On March 29 2016 01:58 rsoultin wrote: here but not...working lunch into oral portion of exit exam, but i'll be back well before the lynch
-squints at koshi- are you agreeing or disagreeing by making my point for me? lol >< As town you can just be here to see the day post and then leave. I also think it is strange to not comment but some people just want to see the flips. Those people can be town. Don't think kurumi is mafia tbh. Too much words before he shot me. ye, well, my belief that sl actually would ever be shot by mafia is about | | this wide ^^ i find it more strange that he didn't comment when the shot didn't go through and sandy claimed almost immediately -_- like if all the claims are why he claims later it just doesn't add up for me sl never gets shot by mafia. never. Xcept when you are mafia. Then I can see it. But still. Can't see it. dude... I said I was n1ed as town in 2 of my last 3 games. DO i have any reason to lie about that? Like its a fact you can go fucking check. Im nked all the fucking time talk about something worthwhile or shut up -_- you're a pain in the ass no u
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On March 29 2016 05:31 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 05:29 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2016 05:25 sicklucker wrote:On March 29 2016 02:20 Koshi wrote:On March 29 2016 02:12 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2016 02:04 Koshi wrote:On March 29 2016 01:58 rsoultin wrote: here but not...working lunch into oral portion of exit exam, but i'll be back well before the lynch
-squints at koshi- are you agreeing or disagreeing by making my point for me? lol >< As town you can just be here to see the day post and then leave. I also think it is strange to not comment but some people just want to see the flips. Those people can be town. Don't think kurumi is mafia tbh. Too much words before he shot me. ye, well, my belief that sl actually would ever be shot by mafia is about | | this wide ^^ i find it more strange that he didn't comment when the shot didn't go through and sandy claimed almost immediately -_- like if all the claims are why he claims later it just doesn't add up for me sl never gets shot by mafia. never. Xcept when you are mafia. Then I can see it. But still. Can't see it. dude... I said I was n1ed as town in 2 of my last 3 games. DO i have any reason to lie about that? Like its a fact you can go fucking check. Im nked all the fucking time talk about something worthwhile or shut up -_- you're a pain in the ass no u you saying my read on kuru is worthless, cause if you are i'd like to know why. you can leave the snippy at the door You were talking about the thing were Tube attacked Kurumi, yes? Because if you are then the things tube said were still ridiculous even though he was town. And I was the one who jumped your throat about that. So I really wonder how this would make it more likely for kurumi to be mafia.
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On March 29 2016 05:37 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:00 Vivax wrote:On March 29 2016 02:56 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 02:51 VayneAuthority wrote:On March 29 2016 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 02:41 VayneAuthority wrote: I see my ignore koshi advice was not heeded. He is legit trolling to stay alive longer Cool, then put us all out of our mísery and vote him right now. I don't think hes mafia though. if i voted some one for being annoying/supporting mafia the award would go to alakaslam by a landslide. Slam isn't even here though. He might get replaced. Koshi is better than this. The most protown thing you can do is to vote him. Isnt Rels better than this? Isnt Shape different than this? How can you be so confident it can only be Koshi when at least two other are playing differently just like he is. I dont get the same level of confidence you do just cause its koshi whos being different, it doesnt add up. Of course it adds up. Koshi normally is the fucking innocent child of TL mafia while he has lots of trouble even coming close to that as mafia. He isn't towny this game - so he is either mafia or intentionally playing worse than he can. I do not negotiate with terrorists. I don't know if shape is different. Even if he is - is this his mafia meta? Same with Rels. If you can demonstrate that go ahead. is this it? i'm sorry, but koshi's really shit as scum...like no his play hasn't been shoot you between the eyes duh no doubt town!koshi i agree but it's nowhere near his scum play either, i feel. do you disagree with that? like do you honestly have an example of him this involved/reactive as scum, even if it fell off later? He isn't involved at all. And yes, there are mafia games where he survives a few days without straight afking. Go look for them yourself.
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On March 29 2016 05:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 05:37 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:00 Vivax wrote:On March 29 2016 02:56 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 02:51 VayneAuthority wrote:On March 29 2016 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 02:41 VayneAuthority wrote: I see my ignore koshi advice was not heeded. He is legit trolling to stay alive longer Cool, then put us all out of our mísery and vote him right now. I don't think hes mafia though. if i voted some one for being annoying/supporting mafia the award would go to alakaslam by a landslide. Slam isn't even here though. He might get replaced. Koshi is better than this. The most protown thing you can do is to vote him. Isnt Rels better than this? Isnt Shape different than this? How can you be so confident it can only be Koshi when at least two other are playing differently just like he is. I dont get the same level of confidence you do just cause its koshi whos being different, it doesnt add up. Of course it adds up. Koshi normally is the fucking innocent child of TL mafia while he has lots of trouble even coming close to that as mafia. He isn't towny this game - so he is either mafia or intentionally playing worse than he can. I do not negotiate with terrorists. I don't know if shape is different. Even if he is - is this his mafia meta? Same with Rels. If you can demonstrate that go ahead. is this it? i'm sorry, but koshi's really shit as scum...like no his play hasn't been shoot you between the eyes duh no doubt town!koshi i agree but it's nowhere near his scum play either, i feel. do you disagree with that? like do you honestly have an example of him this involved/reactive as scum, even if it fell off later? He isn't involved at all. And yes, there are mafia games where he survives a few days without straight afking. Go look for them yourself. Not involved? Holy shit. I have been superinvolved. You are really just really tunneled and extremely bad at the game. It has to be both this game. Sorry. Just true. You haven't even TRIED to get a guy you list under CONFIRMED FUCKING MAFIA lynched. If someone is extremely bad at this game then it is you. Unless you are just mafia.
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On March 29 2016 05:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 05:37 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:00 Vivax wrote:On March 29 2016 02:56 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 02:51 VayneAuthority wrote:On March 29 2016 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 02:41 VayneAuthority wrote: I see my ignore koshi advice was not heeded. He is legit trolling to stay alive longer Cool, then put us all out of our mísery and vote him right now. I don't think hes mafia though. if i voted some one for being annoying/supporting mafia the award would go to alakaslam by a landslide. Slam isn't even here though. He might get replaced. Koshi is better than this. The most protown thing you can do is to vote him. Isnt Rels better than this? Isnt Shape different than this? How can you be so confident it can only be Koshi when at least two other are playing differently just like he is. I dont get the same level of confidence you do just cause its koshi whos being different, it doesnt add up. Of course it adds up. Koshi normally is the fucking innocent child of TL mafia while he has lots of trouble even coming close to that as mafia. He isn't towny this game - so he is either mafia or intentionally playing worse than he can. I do not negotiate with terrorists. I don't know if shape is different. Even if he is - is this his mafia meta? Same with Rels. If you can demonstrate that go ahead. is this it? i'm sorry, but koshi's really shit as scum...like no his play hasn't been shoot you between the eyes duh no doubt town!koshi i agree but it's nowhere near his scum play either, i feel. do you disagree with that? like do you honestly have an example of him this involved/reactive as scum, even if it fell off later? He isn't involved at all. And yes, there are mafia games where he survives a few days without straight afking. Go look for them yourself. no. my experience with koshi says otherwise, so if you say these games exist it's on you to show them, or at least name them this close to lynch All it takes is a quick look at the database. You don't even have to open the filters listed there since you can determine how long he lasted without doing so.
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On March 29 2016 05:46 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 05:43 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 05:41 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2016 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 05:37 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:00 Vivax wrote:On March 29 2016 02:56 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 02:51 VayneAuthority wrote:On March 29 2016 02:43 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] Cool, then put us all out of our mísery and vote him right now. I don't think hes mafia though. if i voted some one for being annoying/supporting mafia the award would go to alakaslam by a landslide. Slam isn't even here though. He might get replaced. Koshi is better than this. The most protown thing you can do is to vote him. Isnt Rels better than this? Isnt Shape different than this? How can you be so confident it can only be Koshi when at least two other are playing differently just like he is. I dont get the same level of confidence you do just cause its koshi whos being different, it doesnt add up. Of course it adds up. Koshi normally is the fucking innocent child of TL mafia while he has lots of trouble even coming close to that as mafia. He isn't towny this game - so he is either mafia or intentionally playing worse than he can. I do not negotiate with terrorists. I don't know if shape is different. Even if he is - is this his mafia meta? Same with Rels. If you can demonstrate that go ahead. is this it? i'm sorry, but koshi's really shit as scum...like no his play hasn't been shoot you between the eyes duh no doubt town!koshi i agree but it's nowhere near his scum play either, i feel. do you disagree with that? like do you honestly have an example of him this involved/reactive as scum, even if it fell off later? He isn't involved at all. And yes, there are mafia games where he survives a few days without straight afking. Go look for them yourself. no. my experience with koshi says otherwise, so if you say these games exist it's on you to show them, or at least name them this close to lynch All it takes is a quick look at the database. You don't even have to open the filters listed there since you can determine how long he lasted without doing so. ...are you honest to god telling me that by looking at how long koshi lasted i'll instantly be able to tell how he played in the game? rofl >< that's stupid jat even you must see that. what is the game you're thinking of? surely you have something in mind? people don't make blanket statements without games in their head they just don't Look, if you want to piss me off I can also just lynch you instead.
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On March 29 2016 05:48 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 05:39 Koshi wrote:On March 29 2016 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 05:37 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 03:00 Vivax wrote:On March 29 2016 02:56 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 02:51 VayneAuthority wrote:On March 29 2016 02:43 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] Cool, then put us all out of our mísery and vote him right now. I don't think hes mafia though. if i voted some one for being annoying/supporting mafia the award would go to alakaslam by a landslide. Slam isn't even here though. He might get replaced. Koshi is better than this. The most protown thing you can do is to vote him. Isnt Rels better than this? Isnt Shape different than this? How can you be so confident it can only be Koshi when at least two other are playing differently just like he is. I dont get the same level of confidence you do just cause its koshi whos being different, it doesnt add up. Of course it adds up. Koshi normally is the fucking innocent child of TL mafia while he has lots of trouble even coming close to that as mafia. He isn't towny this game - so he is either mafia or intentionally playing worse than he can. I do not negotiate with terrorists. I don't know if shape is different. Even if he is - is this his mafia meta? Same with Rels. If you can demonstrate that go ahead. is this it? i'm sorry, but koshi's really shit as scum...like no his play hasn't been shoot you between the eyes duh no doubt town!koshi i agree but it's nowhere near his scum play either, i feel. do you disagree with that? like do you honestly have an example of him this involved/reactive as scum, even if it fell off later? He isn't involved at all. And yes, there are mafia games where he survives a few days without straight afking. Go look for them yourself. Not involved? Holy shit. I have been superinvolved. You are really just really tunneled and extremely bad at the game. It has to be both this game. Sorry. Just true. You haven't even TRIED to get a guy you list under CONFIRMED FUCKING MAFIA lynched. If someone is extremely bad at this game then it is you. Unless you are just mafia. I have made multiple posts on why he is mafia. I cba to make 4 pages or 80 posts on why he is mafia. If you prefer to believe I am mafia over superbia. Or that you think I should be lynched over superbia than that is because it is you who is extremely bad at the game. You think you are using meta on me. But at this point even that meta is so flimsy I don't know if you are mafia just bullshitting or just really really bad at the game. At least some of the people currently in this thread see the truth. That is all I need. This wagon on me formed quite quickly when I was afk and since then all the people on my wagon dissapeared. Probably because their head isn't as far up their ass as yours is. It is truly magnificent to see how you are trying to blame me for getting lynched. You are truly terrible JAT. Congratz. Signed Koshi I don't care. If you don't try to win as town - you can die.
Signed JAT
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Like fuck all those people who admit that this is not the usual Koshi and still ask "why on earth would he be mafia ???!?!?!?!?"
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