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On March 28 2016 08:11 Shapelog wrote:
alright thanks for the quote.
idk understand needless to say how you breaking meta from last game makes you auto lynch this game. I feel like with a broken meta players would look into the content in your posts, and since it is a tad bit lacking, they would assume that that + a portentinal scum burnout from playing scum last game, would = you as scum.
I think this is what you meant to get across to me. If so i can understand it since it i just wrote why it would make sense.
About blues
Well it not so much the claiming (since only 3? was claimed today) as it is the infomation that is out there. Why would Kuru reveal the fact that he shot Koshi? obv you are going to say, "because Koshi didn't Die shape." Well in that action alone, if it is all true, mafia just got information about Kuru and know that their is a doc/jk. Sands claim gives them the infomation that they have to worry about a vig shot now if they ML (if he can shoot mutiple times, which sounds like so based on his role descp he gave) + the claims from Rsoul and SL (while they did not give a lot of information, they still told mafia they are blue. If SL is vet, then it was the right play thou.) And they know that there is a another active protection role if they did not shoot stutter. And they know that Slam
Now, isn't that a lot of info magically out there? Yes, worse case we gave them 3 claimed blue roles and leaked 2 roles ifno.
IT also seems easy for mafia to fake claim during this shit strom to not only get confirmed but also so spread lies. Hell if there is a 3rd party, they could also participate.
TLDR
all the info feels like mafia is planting seeds everyone to keep town guessing. Not sure, but that is what it feels like.
I think what I was trying to say was that with me having a broken meta and me defending Tina, I would get auto'd lynched if she flips scum. About blues it's true 3rd party could claim blue and scum could make it a big mess by claiming blue hence why idk which claim would be fake.
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On March 28 2016 08:53 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 08:28 LightningStrike wrote:On March 28 2016 08:11 Shapelog wrote:
alright thanks for the quote.
idk understand needless to say how you breaking meta from last game makes you auto lynch this game. I feel like with a broken meta players would look into the content in your posts, and since it is a tad bit lacking, they would assume that that + a portentinal scum burnout from playing scum last game, would = you as scum.
I think this is what you meant to get across to me. If so i can understand it since it i just wrote why it would make sense.
About blues
Well it not so much the claiming (since only 3? was claimed today) as it is the infomation that is out there. Why would Kuru reveal the fact that he shot Koshi? obv you are going to say, "because Koshi didn't Die shape." Well in that action alone, if it is all true, mafia just got information about Kuru and know that their is a doc/jk. Sands claim gives them the infomation that they have to worry about a vig shot now if they ML (if he can shoot mutiple times, which sounds like so based on his role descp he gave) + the claims from Rsoul and SL (while they did not give a lot of information, they still told mafia they are blue. If SL is vet, then it was the right play thou.) And they know that there is a another active protection role if they did not shoot stutter. And they know that Slam
Now, isn't that a lot of info magically out there? Yes, worse case we gave them 3 claimed blue roles and leaked 2 roles ifno.
IT also seems easy for mafia to fake claim during this shit strom to not only get confirmed but also so spread lies. Hell if there is a 3rd party, they could also participate.
TLDR
all the info feels like mafia is planting seeds everyone to keep town guessing. Not sure, but that is what it feels like.
I think what I was trying to say was that with me having a broken meta and me defending Tina, I would get auto'd lynched if she flips scum. About blues it's true 3rd party could claim blue and scum could make it a big mess by claiming blue hence why idk which claim would be fake. That was what you said :/, i was trying to understand the logic on why you thought so. idk either about the claims and to how to go about them, I think i dive into that a bit tomorrow and tonight look more at content. since tonight =15 mins :/ Have questions too for: Sand-can u shot more than once?
Last game I broke my meta and people would be more weakly of me and me hard defending Tina would in turn make me a auto lynch because of those reasons.
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On March 28 2016 09:07 Shapelog wrote:*faceplam* This is inrocic because i literally just got done talking about giving mafia info blah blah blah and then i just got sand to reveal he is one shot. I am such a moron well good to know for the future.
He outed how many shots he had earlier lol.
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On March 28 2016 11:42 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 07:29 LightningStrike wrote:On March 27 2016 07:28 Damdred wrote:
Well life is easier don't you think ls? Not a lot easier but don't you think it's werid he shot a lurker over a scumread of his? Nope, lurker shots are the correct way to go, Rsoul has been posting so pressuring her via lynch should get her to prove she is town or slip up as mafia. Also not sure why you disapprove of his not shooting Rsoul since you town read her?
It was just shocking to me at the time because he had Tina as one of his top scumreads so when he shot stutters I was completely shocked. I would rather had gone with the tina shot for info if I was a vig in that situation.
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On March 28 2016 11:58 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 09:18 LightningStrike wrote:On March 27 2016 08:38 sandroba wrote:
@LS since you seem so sure rsoul is town it should be easier for you to come up with some sort of mafia team that doesn't include her, or even a single person you suspect of being mafia instead. I can't find any clue on your filter of who you think is mafia. Rels potentially, VA, Vivax +1. Rels usually have a stronger presence as town but activity is nay. VA not really having his usual sharpness(this is a meta read that I borrowing from kushm4sta) and all he did was pretty much complained and didn't do anything outside of that. Vivax fallen off real hard since his big spur of actvity and he is known for lurking as scum. I rather hate these reads. Rels is a straight parrot of what Damdred said earlier, and that Vivax read is super weak, kinda opportunistic too ("this dude isn't here right now! Lurking! Lets lynch"), VA is just low hanging fruit regardless of alignment
Not exactly a parrot but Rels doesn't exactly parrot as much as town if I remember correctly.
Vivax is a meta read that I remeber him being lurkier as scum than town.
VA would of posted something useful when he was active if he was town(hint he didn't).
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I honestly think TT could be town based on the fact that in Season of the Witch he called me scum when he was town and I was town that game and in Nutcracker he called me town when I was town while he was scum. I know it might be a bit faulty but it just a meta I remember about TT.
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On March 28 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 11:40 sandroba wrote:On March 27 2016 11:15 rsoultin wrote:
Ye. I get an item at night and then I can choose to try to make it work at any phase. Then it has a 50% chance of working, so if I were to try to make it work this phase I'd know what it did during the night phase How likely you guys think it is that palmar introduces this kind of variance to the game for no particular reason? I mean some person has to invent something give to the other who can use it the next phase and it has only 50% chance of working and you only know what it does after you use it, you don't even know if whoever invented it is town or not. Idk about palmar, but I played in a game recently where you got gifts, you had to unwrap at night, then could use the w/e it was the next night. Gifts were given randomly to town and mafia. So not unheard of. It's kinda a weird role, but then what SL is claiming is a bit unusual as well. It's also sounding like this game is loaded with blues (2 vigs, a flipped investi-type role, Vet-ish, 2 Engi's, +probably one other Protective), so some weakish off roles makes sense. Also Koshi has a solid point that the same role might be given to both town and mafia. So no I don't find her role too unreasonable, and I'm not sure why scum would make up such a weird and complex role either. So either way she is probably telling the truth about what her role is but I'm not sure if it makes more sense for there to be 2 town engi's to play off each other or a counterplay engi on opposing factions.
To bad that you got caught because of you using that gift by Shape and later me 
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On March 28 2016 12:57 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 12:55 LightningStrike wrote:
I honestly think TT could be town based on the fact that in Season of the Witch he called me scum when he was town and I was town that game and in Nutcracker he called me town when I was town while he was scum. I know it might be a bit faulty but it just a meta I remember about TT. @.@ this is not a reliable "meta" by any stretch, LS ah, ye, that was the other thing i wanted to look at tonight since he vanished without talking to me, the coward
True but still it was something I just had thought of.
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I just woke up and sicklucker is full tunnel on me -_- Maybe paranoia because of last game? Tina been defending herself while talking to sicklucker and ritoky.
@JAT: Is it possible that Koshi could not have fire as town? Just curious because you played with him more than me.
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On March 28 2016 21:42 Superbia wrote:
Also hi LS. What are your thoughts?
I still think Tina is town and I am warming up to ritoky a tiny bit unfornately his read on me been bad since he started playing with me :\ Sicklucker tunnel on me might be paranoia because I had just rolled scum with him in Cell even though Damdred was my scummate too. There could be a fake claim by someone in the pool of claims but idk which one would be fake atm.
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On March 28 2016 21:44 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 21:39 LightningStrike wrote:
I just woke up and sicklucker is full tunnel on me -_- Maybe paranoia because of last game? Tina been defending herself while talking to sicklucker and ritoky.
@JAT: Is it possible that Koshi could not have fire as town? Just curious because you played with him more than me. Yes, I played with him a LOT and no, I have never seen this to be the case. The only way Koshi doesn't have fire as town is if he is once again intentionally holding back for retarded reasons. So let's eliminate this small chance by pushing him.
I might do a pressure vote on him to get him to do shit but otherwise fair enough.
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On March 28 2016 21:46 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 21:45 LightningStrike wrote:On March 28 2016 21:42 Superbia wrote:
Also hi LS. What are your thoughts? I still think Tina is town and I am warming up to ritoky a tiny bit unfornately his read on me been bad since he started playing with me :\ Sicklucker tunnel on me might be paranoia because I had just rolled scum with him in Cell even though Damdred was my scummate too. There could be a fake claim by someone in the pool of claims but idk which one would be fake atm. All right, that's cool. I need to read into ritoky a bit today. Not sure if he did anything other than his big tunnel post on rso. What's your top 3 pick for scum atm?
VA and Rels plus probably Koshi if JAT is right on him.
See my who I want to lynch post for VA and Rels.
Koshi I might sheep JAT one maybe but he my least comfortable lynch atm.
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On March 28 2016 21:52 Superbia wrote:
Rels is indeed fucking nowhere this game. Maybe tired of rolling scum?
I don't even recall VA except he sheeped something on rso who's more likely town now.
He was her first voter and didn't really say shit at all and the stuff he did say were bleh.
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JAT to answer your question about Rels and VA:
VA is a meta borrowing from(gasp) Kush from Star Wars where I see some of his star wars posting atm and VA was scum there.
Rels: Okay he haven't done much stuff and usually tries to be the main voice at times and I not been feeling it this game and a good you had about the obs qt in Cell he forgot to give a read on me plus he would try harder to figure out my alignment.
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On March 28 2016 23:21 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 23:18 LightningStrike wrote:
JAT to answer your question about Rels and VA:
VA is a meta borrowing from(gasp) Kush from Star Wars where I see some of his star wars posting atm and VA was scum there.
Rels: Okay he haven't done much stuff and usually tries to be the main voice at times and I not been feeling it this game and a good you had about the obs qt in Cell he forgot to give a read on me plus he would try harder to figure out my alignment. Can you give me examples on how his posting here looks like star wars? Because I vehemently disagree with this. Don't really think I understand the Rels stuff but maybe that's on me. I have trouble concentrating right now.
Okay nvm on VA I just relooked there he just null atm and he is now posting.
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I just got home and I see Tina,Koshi ,and Tumble are up for lynch. Ugh I don't Tina to be lynched that for sure. Idk about Koshi and Tumble lynches. This is hard to think who would be scum ebtween tumble and koshi....
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On March 29 2016 06:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 06:14 justanothertownie wrote:On March 29 2016 06:06 rsoultin wrote:On March 29 2016 06:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I am annoyed that in a game with a very very hard playerlist from a town pov even the few usually reliably towny players are either not willing to play or mafia? I might also be annoyed by the fact that this is clearly a themed game that was sold to me as normal and that we don't even get to read the role pms of the dead people which is a huge boost for mafia. yeah take a breather and look at my kuru points please. least you can do if i'm plumbing the entire fucking database here -_- What Kuru points are you talking about? The fact that he wasn't around after the flip? Doesn't convince me. okay let me find it...basically both his scumreads read super strained, first with gum which after tube pointed that out he went all postal on tube
You saying kuru could be scum for the way he scumread gum and tube?
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On March 29 2016 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and I see Tina,Koshi ,and Tumble are up for lynch. Ugh I don't Tina to be lynched that for sure. Idk about Koshi and Tumble lynches. This is hard to think who would be scum ebtween tumble and koshi.... Ok, this is your last chance to explain to me why you write stuff like the bolded before I call bullshit on you. Why are you so sure that she is town?
First her tone this game seemed happy at first and when peopel pissed her off she went into her normal kinda bitchy tone at people. Second she did hardcore breadcrumbed her role which I kinda overlooked at the time I thought she was having some fun with slam I mean why would she breadcrumbed so fucking hard if she was scum? #rd she going after targets no one would go for which reminds me of Carol where me and her tried to stop the Holyflare(scum) lynch and lynch the people we wanted to lynch.
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Honestly I don't give a fuck if I get lynched over my Tina read but I think she is town.
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On March 29 2016 06:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and I see Tina,Koshi ,and Tumble are up for lynch. Ugh I don't Tina to be lynched that for sure. Idk about Koshi and Tumble lynches. This is hard to think who would be scum ebtween tumble and koshi.... No it is not. Fuck you you are mafia. I knew it I shouldn't have placed you so high when I did. You have had me as town the entire fucking game. GRTZ on showing face in such a dumb way.
OMGUS much?
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