EPTTL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3 - Page 10
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So that means 7-8 PRs. Seems a bit.. much? It may very well be possible. The thing is, with so many PRs, there HAS to be a secondary mafia KP OR a 3rd party KP (even without PRs, just the number of people in the game). Where is that? Could be stack, but it would imply that the KP is 3rd party. OR sandroba was mafia vigi and claimed his shot, but this seems very unlikely because he would be confirmed mafia at a certain point in the game purely through game logic. Also kind of liked his claim. So sandroba is probably always town. So we have: - 2 claimed KP (Sandroba and Kurumi) on Stutters and Koshi respectively. - >=1 mafia & >=0 3rd party KP. (together has to be >1 for game balance) So for the secondary mafia/3rd party KP, either: - One of the vigis is lying (would lean towards kurumi lying). - We have a secondary medic (and a claimed PR is FOR SURE lying). - Mafia vig or 3rd party (whichever) held their shot (unlikely) OR was roleblocked somehow. - Mafia stacked with 3rd party and sandroba on stutters (almost never). This doesn't tell us too much yet. However, if at some point in the game it becomes known that we have 2 medics (not today), one of the alive PRs is mafia. Claimed PRs have to be evaluated on their own. I have no idea what kind of information mafia has, but Koshi had said before that Palmar gives mafia info on town (iirc?). Speaking of Koshi, he has to hard claim whether he is a veteran or not. On that note, today's most important topic is rso's alignment. Alas, none of the vigis shot her (... seriously?), so now we have to figure out her alignment. If we lynch her and she flips town, the game is probably super over. I am either ride or dying with her today, or she's getting lynched. She has said that she has time tomorrow and rso, you need to bring the fucking fire if you're town. The breadcrumb at the start of the game really, really helps with that, and I'm actually leaning towards you being town right now. Especially seeing how quick the votes are going again. That being said, do not be lazy. Bring the fucking fire. | ||
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On March 27 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote: hahahaahahahahahaahahahaha. See? Even I get shot before sicklucker does. btw I am not a vet or anything so somebody blocked that shot. Ok that's important to know. | ||
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On March 27 2016 23:10 Damdred wrote: Mafia either double stacked on koshi or kur is scum. Or sand is a lying person and is scum who shot lynch bait. ??? Double stack always goes through protection. | ||
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On March 27 2016 23:10 Vivax wrote: I find it very suspicious that you apply this reasoning to Sandro but not Kurumi or Slam, how exactly does sandro deserve this unjustified townread based on him being second to shoot? Your lack of suspicion on him is obvious with this. Kurumi's claim also isn't taken into account. It was my thought at the start of the day when I lurked on cellphone and saw sand claim the shot. I feel like kurumi claiming night vig into sandroba claiming night vig was kind of townie actually. But sandroba claiming another rolename and clause was also townie. I think they are both sort of townie. I am not taking slam into account because we know for a fact he had KP and at the time I felt like there was no real mafia justification for him KPing the most scum-read person in the thread at the time, it gives town info at a decent time in the thread. However, thinking more about it, I am starting to get some doubts (worlds that are possible). | ||
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On March 27 2016 23:13 Koshi wrote: why in gods name would the game be over after a second town flip? lol. Town will have at least 4 ml. Maybe 3 if you people keep shooting townies. If we believe all claims then pretty much all but 1 or maybe 2 PRs are outed. We lost one of our investigative roles and probably the other one too. The rest all can't shoot for shit. The only real decent PR is the person who blocked the mafia shot (assuming it's blocked). So yeah, if rso gets lynched today and flips town, mafia probably has a myriad of miss lynches to pick from and push on and probably no investigative roles to hinder such shit. Honestly I'm having a very hard time keeping my reads where they are and I'm tempted to blame it on the rest of town | ||
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On March 27 2016 23:20 Koshi wrote: Ok. Here and now. You think I am mafia and I should be shot? Ok. You always said you townread me. At least early game. So explain everything. Why am I mafia? I think this game would be easier for me if I knew your alignment. I am leaning you towards mafia right now. You seem to have lost all that emotion you had early on in the game which has gotten you a bunch of town-reads. Instead you seem sarcastic and bitter. Also you're reading some of the game pretty opposite from me. Also I was expecting town-Koshi to drop the shitty town-mafia list thing by now because you couldn't be bothered. Too automated. | ||
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On March 27 2016 23:21 Vivax wrote: Scenario: You are scum dayvig, you can shoot anytime, you can shoot useless people or useful people, you can shoot people who are being scumread or who are being townread, who will you shoot? You are town dayvig, you can shoot useless people or useful people, you can shoot people who are being scumread or who are being townread, who will you shoot? Scenario 3 is you are slam and can do whatever you want and whatever you do, unless you are smurfing you just post hogwash and it doesn't depend on you whether you live or die. I keep my shot secret to win the game at the vital moment. Yes, it being slam does change some things. However, my eye is not on slam at the moment (though I am very curious what his successor does). I want to lynch someone who is in some way related to rso, or rso. | ||
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There are a number of specific reasons why I think Koshi is scum, and it mostly has to do with his reactions to certain things in the game. But it mostly boils down to: he's playing way differently than his VT game I remember. I think the most glaring is this: Town gets shot during d1 -> Koshi "flips out" and gets townreads from it. PR gets lynched d1 -> Koshi doesn't care. PR gets shot n1 -> Koshi doesn't care. Koshi is seemingly the target of KP -> Koshi doesn't care AND doesn't think he should've been a medic save. Town koshi would've been typing with caps lock enabled during point 2-4. Also his scum list is absolutely garbage. | ||
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On March 28 2016 21:45 LightningStrike wrote: I still think Tina is town and I am warming up to ritoky a tiny bit unfornately his read on me been bad since he started playing with me :\ Sicklucker tunnel on me might be paranoia because I had just rolled scum with him in Cell even though Damdred was my scummate too. There could be a fake claim by someone in the pool of claims but idk which one would be fake atm. All right, that's cool. I need to read into ritoky a bit today. Not sure if he did anything other than his big tunnel post on rso. What's your top 3 pick for scum atm? | ||
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