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On April 05 2016 22:13 Race Bannon wrote: Leaning town on boxer and GlowingBear for their confident opening. Race Bannon's lone contribution of note. For reference are boxerfred's and GlowingBear's opening. On April 05 2016 16:14 boxerfred wrote: Hey guys. Im town. Artanis thread entry sparks up discussion but he couldve done this without the color mix. I like TWs reaction and i dont like Standard GB yolo vote. Also Damdreds entry is useless banter without any use to it which doesnt feel like usual town damdred stuff. On April 05 2016 10:17 GlowingBear wrote: THANK GOD I'M NOT MAFIA AGAIN GlowingBear did have 10 posts prior to Race Bannon of which he has mostly joke posts, drivel, two random question and a generously bad townread. Would lynch. Not only is there nothing of note or interesting from Race Bannon, he/she is basically MIA. | ||
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On April 05 2016 09:19 Kuragari42 wrote: I read in a shaky voice?? You think I'm some weak coward or something?!? "Kuragari42 looked at the note and begin reading it off in a voice full of confidence." There. This is basically a summary for why anyone could think Kuragawi42 is town... 4 posts with nothing interesting of note. | ||
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On April 06 2016 01:29 Spikasaur wrote: Eh... You were quick to go on about getting your wish to be town, which could easily be a seed planted for you to refer back to later on. Artanis was quick to throw some people under the bus based on ?? but then again I fully appreciate it gets a game rolling. I just wouldn't say it's massively townie type play though? DoYouHas so far seems pretty townie? I could easily be wrong, it's early days. "If we can get the newbies active they won't be easy scapegoats for scum and we should have a more productive d1." - if is how he really feels, that's gotta be townie, no? However Gossemerr does make a good counter point I guess. Not sure on others yet. Spikasaur's lone post of note. Interesting that twice for what should be declarative sentences, he/she uses question marks as if he/she isn't confident in what is being said. | ||
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On April 05 2016 09:30 Gossemerr wrote: Are you implying we would be easy scapegoats based solely on #/length of posts? Maybe you want newbies to post a lot to clutter up the thread and muddle pro-town progress  So far of the rather bland newbies and actually despite the slightly shorter filter, I'm less inclined to lynch Gossemerr. I like the attitude. His response toward DoYouHas gives a glimmer of illusion that he is reading and thinking. He shall be tossed in the townpile for now. | ||
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Interesting question without much actual throughput. DoYouHas's goal to involve the nubians in the game is honorable if boring. Overall his points on Tumblewood are uninspiring, however, the unflipped association read to Artanis is a bit much. However, that paranoia is more in line with actual paranoia than keeping up general appearances. Perhaps town for his paranoia. | ||
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On April 06 2016 14:02 Tumblewood wrote: Especially on a quiet day like this, I don't think a lack of interesting stuff in a person's first four posts is scummy. I'm leaning toward reading any activity as townie right now. It's almost like a quiet LyLo/MyLo when scum wants to make sure no one talks and potentially changes the lynch. Of course, though, it would be silly to lynch someone right now for being quiet, because so is everyone. (Really, there are no lynches I can feel decent about because no one's coming out of their shell.) Activity is non-alignment indicative in general. In this specific case with low activity and low votes, I'd lean far more toward scum being in the more active side of town. | ||
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On April 05 2016 08:59 LightningStrike wrote: From being a person who was town read for emotions to actually be town read for content. Ask Lexus for why It's interesting to me that LightningStrike trying for this goal while actually producing quite little content. He/She has many posts finding an excuse to not call someone scum and even goes so far to post: Besides not making him/herself an easy townread based on emotions, he/she hasn't actually made any attempt to push content or force through content. I'd surmise that he/she is rather passive as scum. Not a bad lynch. | ||
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On April 06 2016 05:24 Damdred wrote: He's so calm and agreeable If for nothing else, I have no interest in lynching Damdred for this post alone. Despite his/her short filter with mostly mediocre posts, coming to the same synthesis as myself on LightningStrike makes me feel some minor kinship. I'll toss him/her on the townpile for now. | ||
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On April 05 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote: I'm going to go case-read on this because I can't really judge which case it is yet. Case 1: Artanis is town and is using that post to judge people's reactions. Case 2: Artanis is town and is using that post to lighten up the thread and get things started. Case 3: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear that he's trying to get reactions. Case 4: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear carefree. Of these, case 4 is the worst and case 1 is probably the best. I think that his opening is NAI [for newbies, that stands for "Not Alignment Indicative"] for now. Your vote is entirely throwaway or entirely overweighted. Really it's just D1 start and we're reading into nothing. While I'm relatively unimpressed with Tumblewood in general, I'm not terribly excited to lynch him/her right now. His/her filter is poor at best; however, there's a mechanic thought process to this post in that he/she has to put it into a post in order to work through it. There's something I can understand about that which I am able to sympathize with. I think that Tumblewood may be town though I'm currently of the mind to hedge a bit. | ||
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On April 06 2016 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Pretending not to know me is pretty boring. There's basically no one I have a strong opinion on so far. I find your strong opinion on RB to be pretty baseless. The comments you compared him with I find less interesting than RB's reads. Liking DYH. I don't agree with his strong scumread on TW, but I think he believes what he's saying. TW looks a little townie to me as well. The confidence in this post mostly: Basically taunting DYH into tunneling him more. I feel Mafia is likely to be more careful. Prob willing to lynch GB or Spikasaur currently. GB because I thought he was going with my opening of starting up the game by pretending to be suspicious of me, but then doing nothing with it. Spikasaur because of the wishywashiness that CHodge already pointed out. Putting my vote on GB for now. As I said pregame I intend to spend less time on the game because I tend to get carried away. Will be back from one hour before deadline till deadline. ##Vote GlowingBear Not that impressive dear. | ||
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On April 07 2016 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Stop pretending to be marv, hf. Mayhaps this game shall become Rex v Lex. | ||
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Town: 1. You need to be active and productive. Most of D1 for over half the townies was literally the most unproductive shit ever. No player ever should be able to do very basic analysis and be instantly town read for it; especially when said analysis comes late in the day. 2. Posting/High Post Count =/= being active. The goal for town is to not give Scum room to hide. Artanis got to hide because he was doing very minimal things. Race was just posting random shit and no one was bothering to check him. DYH was just high activity. 3. Openings are important. In my experience, ~75% of scum are "caught" in the first 10 posts. Race and Artanis could easily have been lynched for their openings (for very different reasons); Race's townreads were really, really bad. Artanis was posting but basically worthless; he should've been the D2 lynch. A player who is as skilled as he is who isn't really trying to work with anyone else to get productive posts/lynches is scum. 4. Finding town is just (if not more) important than finding scum. Everyone had me as town on D1. The D1 lynch was culminating in a fuckfest of votes on random players. If you can't find a "good lynch" or a high scum flip, just vote with the player who's you're strongest townread. It's far more likely that whoever that person wants to lynch is scum than a random decision. 5. Town leaders who aren't leading and providing direction should be lynched. From what I saw, all the discussion basically focused around Artanis; by this I mean who he talked about, focused on, etc. But he literally spent zero time actively trying to push an effective agenda. 6. In a 3v2 LYLO when votes are 4:1 especially early on and everybody is staying on, you're lynching town. The last lynch was really bad. Scum: This game was basically a cake walk. After killing me it was just basically riding the D1 vote. Plus, Artanis basically filled the town leader role for you. However, you need to watch your early reads on people. Early townreads aren't necessarily a bad play, but you need those reads to be effective and defendable. Part of the reason why you should townread people is to help support allies (like Artanis and DYH), to buddy/pocket town players (to throw them off), or to help push a scumread on a townie. Everyone: 1. You should ALWAYS have a reason for why you're posting what you're posting. If you're town, you should be trying to move the game forward. If you're scum, you should be holding the game back (somehow). Before you hit the button to post, ask your self "Is this post helping me meet my win condition?" If the answer is no, then change what you're writing or delete it. 2. Figure out your role in the game. By this I mean, do you need to be a follower or a leader. A team with all chieftans and no Indians will lose because there's no direction as the team is being drawn in too many directions. A team with all Indians and no chieftans will lose because there's never a direction anywhere. FYI, just because you're VT doesn't mean you're an indian. Just because your a role doesn't mean you're a chieftan. | ||
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