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On April 09 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2016 08:46 Gossemerr wrote:On April 09 2016 08:34 LightningStrike wrote:On April 09 2016 08:28 GlowingBear wrote:On April 09 2016 08:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 09 2016 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:On April 09 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 09 2016 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:
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is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town? Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring. Well, then I just confirm my theory that there wasn't a single thing that would make you be afraid of lynching me. It's not a narrative, Art. You have a guy you think is Mafia but you decide to vote someone else and keep this scumread alive. It doesn't make sense. In other words: what made you think that having shenannies was better than lynching me? Because shit was hectic and my mind was going everywhere with all the lynches going on. I wanted to hear more from both you and RB and neither of you were there nor had a chance to be there, whereas Fidei did and elected not to. That drove me to want to lynch him. Did you have any reason to scumread fidei? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sIiARLR.gif) You've said you wanted to lunch him but didn't give a single reason to why he is mafia. That's why I'm asking. James decided to play Dota instead of playing the game at EoD hence the gif of the guy disappearing. What I still don't understand is why Artanis stayed with the Fidie vote even after he came back. And then didn't jump back on GB or switch to boxer. Too many other mafia on boxer maybe? On April 07 2016 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Do we have the people to switch to Fidei? I really actually believe in him being far more likely to start playing dota 2h before deadline and not check in before as scum than as town. Agreeing with others on the Art case; from my offline notes-- 1. D1 pushes GB very hard. 2. drops it and causes ML in the chaos 3. N1 doesnt seem to care about the ML 4. D2 brings back his push on GB, which if GB flips town he can just refer back to his earlier thoughts and have an explanation. I feel like we have strong cases on GB and Art collectively -- should consolidate and agree on one to lynch. I don't want to have a weird wagon like D1. Much more likely to lynch a scum with more than 4 votes on a single player-- less chance for wagon and flipping. Idk either regarding the first part of the post but EoD was very weird though >.< Second part of the post if GB flips town Lex would look a bit worse but if GB flips scum he earns a ton of towncred.
Agreed. Whom would you be in favor or lynching then?
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God damn i love your post Art. RB still won't answer me why he is tunneling LS so fucking hard without considering GB.
WTF is this RB? Capitalization means what exactly?
On April 10 2016 02:48 Race Bannon wrote:LS is scum.Show nested quote +On April 09 2016 09:58 LightningStrike wrote:On April 09 2016 09:11 Gossemerr wrote:
EBWOP:
in favor of* I honestly don't know because I do believe that GB town and same with Lex but if I wrong anyone maybe GB because I am a huge sucker for him. Day 1 lead the lynch on a townie who predictably could't make the deadline (Germany). Day 2 no scumspect. CH would've been glad to lynch him so perhaps that's why he got offed. In the post which I got my scumread from, there may be a vet crumb to render an eventual fake claim more persuasive. Show nested quote +On April 06 2016 22:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and I think CHodge is Town for a few reasons.
1. His approach to the game is quite different than a normal newbie regarding Vet players like myself and Artanis.
2. He been more thinking critically than me and everyone else up to this point. notice the capitalization. In case you haven't heard already I'm fairly certain that the timing of this post and it's content is indicative of scum parading CH as the most proficient townie in the field and thus making my lynch more attractive because CH was voting me.
@ Fidei
On April 10 2016 01:55 Fidei86 wrote:
Guys. we are switching to Spika. He has enough posts to know he isn't lurking, but not enough to have contributed anything. Artanis might be mafia, but Spika is dead weight.
##Vote: Spikasaur
I don't want to lynch a lurker over a probable mafia. We learn absoultely nothing from a lurker lynch that nobody has even been talking about / has any vested interest in. For being "town firmed" as you and others think you are not being pro-town in my mind with this. It just causes more confusion for a town that is trying to get unified behind an either Art or GB lynch today.
Finally, lol:
On April 09 2016 16:54 GlowingBear wrote:
IIIIII AM DRUUUUUUNK
I like the cases and my own read @ GB = mafia.
##Vote GlowingBear
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dear god our town is weaksauce right now.
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Fidei why are you against a GB vote?
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Agreed. If we can consolidate and lynch GB we will learn a lot I think.
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If RB is here... can you vote GB instead of LS? Based on everything I've already pointed out at you. Also DYH -- your thoughts on switching to GB?
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On April 10 2016 07:33 Damdred wrote:
Can we lunch tw first before gb though?
How is this better? We will be stuck with more Art vs. GB for the D3 then.
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Can someone explain why we are adding lynch targets with 20 minutes left on the Day. We are going to end up with the EOD1 scenario...
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Fidie why are you basically ignoring the GB lynch?
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On April 10 2016 07:40 GlowingBear wrote:Why Artanis is MafiaIt's really simple. You have to think through mindsets. Town mindset is "I have to lynch scum" Artanis was scumreading me the entire day1. I've asked him if there was any time he considered if I could be town and he said it was when I started developing discussion using his post + Show Spoiler +On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote:On April 09 2016 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.
You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)
But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.
The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.
To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing I have reconsidered it. Then you came back and posted more excuses. I have gone over your filter twice already in the past. There is a difference between going afk to play DotA 2 2 hours before deadline or having uni. One is much more of a conscious choice than the other. is there something on day1 that made you think I'm town? Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring. So, basically, he was certain I was scum when I had no follow-up, and there was no other reason to townread me. I was the leading vote on EOD. Artanis had his main scumread going to die. He PROPOSES A SHENANNIE ON A GUY THAT HE NEVER THOUGHT WAS MAFIA. THIS DOESN'T FIT TOWN PERSPECTIVE, because townies want to lynch scum and they won't risk mislynching a townie over a guy that could be town. IT IS SIMPLE AS THIS. I've asked repeated questions to Artanis so he could explain what made him think FIdei could be mafia. He used the excuse that Fidei could be here but decided to play DOTA. Everyone knows that THAT ISN'T ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE. It's the only excuse he could provide to lynching someone else. He said it was also because we weren't here do defend ourselves. From what, I ask? From not having follow ups? He accused me of that 36 hours straight, pratically. So this is the reason: Artanis is Mafia because he tried a shenannie on a guy who didn't display a clear mafia trait instead of killing his main scumread, and this will never fit town mindset.It's not a "narrative", it's pure syllogism: "Town acts like X Artanis didn't act like X Artanis isn't town" SIMPLE AS THAT
Why would Art push you so hard if you are town and he is mafia? You flip town basically makes Art look super scum and leads to next day lynch on himself. 1 town for 1 mafia is not a trade the scum team would be willing to take.
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Christ this vote spread. Fidei can you just vote GB.
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On April 10 2016 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm going to laugh pretty hard if all scum are in the inactive non-voters btw.
lmao
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really wish kur ans spika were here..
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On April 10 2016 07:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Lynch rb.
..not helping lol
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On April 11 2016 04:13 Tumblewood wrote:
I think this game could actually be really easy if my predictions are correct. After the NK, we have 6v3.
On D3, we lynch Art, and Kura and Spike get MK'd for inactivity (obviously no given, but if they don't it probably involves them also giving us an idea of their alignment). I think that one of Kura and Spike is mafia, not because they're acting scummy, but because I feel confident in my 6-person town circle. That leaves us at 5v1, hopefully.
On D4, we lynch RB, who I think is also scum, so we win. Yay woohoo it's over.
Of course, this relies on me being correct. I cannot reasonably see any of DYH, Damdred, Fidei, Goss, or LS as scum at this point. I am confident in all of those TRs and recommend you all sheep me to victory thank you.
What are your thoughts on the random RB late vote on Art?
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On April 11 2016 00:37 Race Bannon wrote:
##Vote: Shapelog
For not updating the players list and important posts info.
Have you caught up yet? What are your thoughts on Art since you voted him last second.
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On April 10 2016 07:34 Fidei86 wrote:
Okay, so RB's whole game appears to be "LS called CH town and was right, and his reasons were bad, so he's mafia".
???
LS is ALWAYS BAD in most people's eyes. I don't know why I have to explain this to people still. I've said this like ten times.
The thing I really don't get about RB's push on LS, however, is how he hasn't interacted really with anyone else on it - especially not me. If I was *that* sure someone was mafia, and there was another playing posting incessantly negative things about my target, I'd be hitting them up for support.
That was tortured, but yeah ... I'm starting to dig the Race mafia case. My early read on him was based mostly on his picking out bf early as town, from a crowded field, for reasons that looked good after the fact. But since the middle of day 1 ish, his weird LS tunnel has me concerned.
Can you share more about this. On specifically LS v. RB. Placing your vote only on LS now? LS seems to be pretty tuned out at the moment like you have commented on before.
Too many close wagons from these past two lynches. Off the top of my head it feels like we have a few vocal players: Art, Fidei, myself, - LS sorta. One liners. What kind of scares me is that nobody really is saying anything about me being wrong on GB. Now I pushed GB super hard and was totally wrong, which I could imagine probably looks scummy to some in this game?
from my N1 analysis post I still think that one of LS, GB, Fidei, or Dam is scum.
I wish Fidei was more consistent around the EoD instead of bringing up new lynch candidates, RE: spika, as he is the most vocal *likely town* right now.
@ Fidei what are your thoughts on Art now that GB flipped town?
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