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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:12 GMT
#1209
You quoted a guide on how to find scum and compared my attitude to it, attracting attention so similitudes. That is an attack. If it was not then it was a scummy post, attracting attention but not commiting to a scumread.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:18 GMT
#1210
On March 18 2016 23:05 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 22:59 Rels wrote:
On March 18 2016 22:56 Shapelog wrote:
On March 18 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
On March 18 2016 22:50 Shapelog wrote:
On March 18 2016 22:48 Rels wrote:
On March 18 2016 09:08 Koshi wrote:
Oh and I am a veteran obviously.

You have only 1 life right ? Cause that means mafia didn't shoot two nights. Which means Shape is 99% scum. I can't see yamato or geript doing that.

Why would I not shoot?

There is no good explanation for that 'cause it's clearly a mistake. So you're the most likely to do that cause you're new and weird, and yamato and geript are not new.

Weird maybe but new?
That is a stretch, I've played in 5 games (6 counting replaced out) and have played scum before. I wouldn't made that mistake.
Even if i was pissed (like koshi suggested) I would of gotten over it and submitted a night kill.

I know i come up with crazy ideas as scum (or at least i think i do) but fucking saying it is me because i am "New and weird" is not really fair. You are using the fact that i am a "newb" against me.

Of course I am. What is weird with my thinking ? If I was scum, game would be over 'cause I wouldn't ever hold my shot. I think it's the same for yamato and geript. On the other hand, you're a kinda crazy guy that do not have a lot of experience yet.
Like, scum didn't hold his shot once but fukcing twice. It cannot be a mistake, it was deliberate.

Yeah it was fucking deliberate. I even fucking suggested it was yesterday cycle and gerpit found it weird.

So I am going to not only out my stat as mafia, but do so while someone was sus. of me? What is the reward there excetly Rels? I going to convince people that mafia holded shots and what? What do i gain? Nothing. People wouldn't find me more town for think about WIFOM scum tatics.

And than today, suggest that mafia might have a role that is worth not NKing(which apperently is not the case)? You think that i am trying to look clueless?

*sign* i am getting tilited.

Obv. at this point, the no shots have been to stall. So we are looking for someone who has been safe i guess. Last night shot happen to remove confirm townie.

Or someone forgot to submit NK's twice. Doesn't mean the mafia should be MK though?

Yeah. Jumping to the conclusion of "scum didn't shoot" when the obvious conclusion was "doc or jk stopped the nk" is weird. Wanna read to exact post, but you make it seem like if you were scum, it would have had to be a WIFOM strategy, when I think it's likely to be a slip.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:25 GMT
#1213
On March 18 2016 23:20 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 23:12 Rels wrote:
You quoted a guide on how to find scum and compared my attitude to it, attracting attention so similitudes. That is an attack. If it was not then it was a scummy post, attracting attention but not commiting to a scumread.

What?
I was explaining why i thought you were blue for the last few days. Then remember you and me have been on every single lynch wagon and pushed it.

I was explaining it because in the first post i posted this cycle i said if there was a CC, it prob. would come from Rels. And i had you as blue and i wanted to let people know why.

But apparently it is scummy that i want to make sure that people who i think maybe scum could be scum. and it is scummy that I answer koshi.

so w.e, currently looking through smurf filter from you.

OK I thought you were saying that since I was not blue I was likely scum. If that is not what you meant then alright.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:26 GMT
#1216
On March 18 2016 23:23 Koshi wrote:
Are you 2 solving the game or just bickering? Also lol @ rels claiming I am not blue.

Did you feel attacked ? ^^
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:35 GMT
#1221
On March 16 2016 21:01 Shapelog wrote:
Lol Mafia forgot to put their gun off of safety

OK nothing fancy in that post. Yeah it's a super weird assumption to make.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:35 GMT
#1222
On March 18 2016 23:27 Koshi wrote:
I want to point out I had both slam and tumble as town. Imagine if you guys sheeped those reads.

Don't know how you had Tumble as town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:36 GMT
#1223
On March 18 2016 23:28 Shapelog wrote:
Idk who Keanu was, but i loved him.
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 00:20 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 14 2016 05:16 keanuisgod wrote:
These are robik's thoughts on Garga and Warty:

On February 13 2016 09:14 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 13 2016 09:06 Wartrukk wrote:
So on first read I hate gargamel and want him to be died. He quite obviously cares less about this game than I do and that's just fucked

I had a townread on him for some reason reading the thread. Let's see why.
On February 10 2016 12:26 GargamelxD wrote:
cant really take any posts seriously so far, no analysis possible becouse it still seems like standard banter

I first had a scumread for this post.
On February 11 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:
he could be SL maybe, either that or ls

either way i think goldrom is VA and i want to kill him with fire

##Vote 77Goldrom

Oh yeah, he was one of the first to take a firm stance for the lynch. Town points.
On February 11 2016 21:45 GargamelxD wrote:
i dont see any issues with unholy as he just postponed his actual play which i also did, and his entrance wasnt as awkward as roms. he actually took interest into what was happening and gave a bit of his opinion on smurf hunting.

in rom you have a guy who apologizes for being late, claims his role, asks about the latest news and in the next post acts like he doesnt care.

Not scumreading me when I was an easy ML.
+
Having strong opinions in his few posts.

Not confirmed town but likely IMO.


Weak town read on Garga

On February 13 2016 10:20 Iwasrobik wrote:
Wartruk is (probably) town 'cause of his attack on kush very early, when kush is the main force behind discussion blablabla, and thus a pretty bad target to attack for scum. And his posts EOD1 are way too obviously bad for scums to make I think, I'm wary of that one but that's what I think.


Weak town read on Warty

On February 13 2016 10:20 Iwasrobik wrote:
I think I have everyone ? The two scums, I explained why gargamed was maybe town above. Pretty sure kaenu and Valdia are the 2 scums.


We are in MYLO yet he's "pretty sure" he found the whole scumteam, when he still has (admited by him) weak town reads on Garga and Warty.

Dunno about you, but if I have 2 dudes just with slight town reads (hell, it may even reflect my own reads on Garga and Warty so far), I am not going to wager MYLO on fixating my scum reads on the remaining 2 people and call it a day.

The most important thing I'd be doing is dispelling or confirming those "weak" town reads on Garga and Warty. However, this doesn't seem to be on robik's mind since he hasn't addressed Garga nor Warty to figure out their alignment once in this game so far.
This is the most sketchy thing for me, specially when his case against me is so bad I can't believe he's that convinced by it.
His posts so far scream "hidden agenda" to me, not a townie trying to figure the game out so town can salvage something out of these 2-consecutive MYLOs we are going to have.

This post is so bad though it's making me doubt my townread. IF YOU RE TOWN STOP FITTING EVERYTHING INTO FUCKING NARRATIVES


Fucking Shapaenu.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:47 GMT
#1224
Yeah let's kill Shape. He's the only guy that would hold his shot N1 and N2. And it's strengthened by the fact he made the assumption scum hold its shot immediately after N2.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 14:48 GMT
#1225
##Vote Shapelog
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 15:17 GMT
#1227
On March 18 2016 20:18 Koshi wrote:
We are also looking for a mafia who forgor to send in 2 kills.

Not going to be rels I think.
Yamato was a bit strong on the language around nkills. Maybe talking about himself?

Or you are a pretty busy guy geript.

I don't understand the bolded ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 15:45 GMT
#1229
I don't remember yamato saying weird things about the NKs though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 15:47 GMT
#1230
On March 16 2016 08:29 yamato77 wrote:
Mafia is either a complete idiot or the doctor is a God.

Either way, we still lynch tumble.

Should be what Koshi meant. I had the same thinking when I saw there was no kills so I don't think it's weird.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 16:08 GMT
#1234
On March 19 2016 00:54 yamato77 wrote:
At this point it's obvious that this is actually just mafia's strategy.

I'm personally lost as I must have been wrong about someone, but I also don't have the time today to read filters and re eval. Unfortunately not lynching today would make this lylo.

Not true I think, scums wins in 3 days and 6 hours so we can have one 48 hours day when we want. But I agree it's better to have one 24 hours day now and one 48 hours LYLO if we need it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 16:10 GMT
#1235
On March 19 2016 01:04 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 23:35 Rels wrote:
On March 16 2016 21:01 Shapelog wrote:
Lol Mafia forgot to put their gun off of safety

OK nothing fancy in that post. Yeah it's a super weird assumption to make.

Um that was not it. That was a joke lol. This was the real one. founded 2 posts below the post you quoted.
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2016 21:45 Shapelog wrote:
I am actually semi-convince that scum is just playing the waiting game.If that is the case, someone who is thought to be town, is not town (obv). Since I doubt that someone like tumble, who is in danger of getting lynched, is holding shots. Especially when certain NK's could help scum!tumble in the case.

I mean 5 other people, 2 (3 if you count Yammty via Tumble) of which, could be lynched due to thread feels You only have to blend in for about 4 24 hour cycles.

A course, there really isn't a way of determining it. Could just be good doc. Thoughts?

Trust me, I explain everything except Reads. Tinfoil inculded.

Sad part is, that i told myself that Tumble couldn't be scum in that theory but forgot about it.

And why were you semi-convinced scum hold their shot ? It is not the normal assumption to make.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 16:26 GMT
#1245
Basically if scum was smart it would either be LYLO or it would be over already. I can't imagine yamato and geript not being smart. So it's Shape.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 16:39 GMT
#1249
On March 19 2016 01:32 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 01:26 Rels wrote:
Basically if scum was smart it would either be LYLO or it would be over already. I can't imagine yamato and geript not being smart. So it's Shape.

Rels,
As someone who appearlenty read or know about Newbie XIX, would you call me a dumb scum in that game?
I mean i only slipped 10 mins, wrote up to a 30 page filter, had to bus my team mates hard.

I skimmed that game, I remember you having a lot of content and freeflowing the thread. Doesn't mean you're an experienced scum.

Maybe as Koshy says it's a mistake and busy scum busy geript or yamato didn't shoot someone in time N1, and decided to go with MYLO N2 taking the risk of a save N3. That's a big maybe. It takes 5 seconds to put the NK on someone just in case. The simple explanation is that the no-kill N1 was premeditated, and you're the only one that could do that because you're new, you makes weird play and you were super townread by everyone I think.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 16:42 GMT
#1251
On March 19 2016 01:33 Shapelog wrote:
10 mins in*
And jeez were is your blue talk in Smurf

On February 17 2016 01:14 Iwasrobik wrote:
The tinfoil on me is super townie. OK I think I have accepted you as town.

Wartruk & Garga, if you're doc you need to claim right now.

On February 17 2016 03:48 Iwasrobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 03:12 Wartrukk wrote:
Medic claiming is pretty dumb unless you want the NL, robik. If we mislynch today and medic claims there's 0% chance we win.

Got a speeding ticket last night. First one ever. I was going with the flow of traffic but hey who cares

You're wrong. Medic can protect himself so it's the same if he claims or not; AND we can either take someone out of the lynch pool (if there is no counterclaim) and reduce the lynch pool to 2 people (if there is a counterclaim).
You are the most likely lynch so please claim your role in your next post.

On February 17 2016 04:06 keanuisgod wrote:
Garga left to claim then

On February 17 2016 04:14 Iwasrobik wrote:
So it's either Garga vs Wartruk, or Garga vs Kaenu depending on what he says

On February 17 2016 04:24 Iwasrobik wrote:
Guess it's obvious I'm VT and I think Kaenu is doc now ...

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 16:43 GMT
#1255
On March 19 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 01:39 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:26 Rels wrote:
Basically if scum was smart it would either be LYLO or it would be over already. I can't imagine yamato and geript not being smart. So it's Shape.

Rels,
As someone who appearlenty read or know about Newbie XIX, would you call me a dumb scum in that game?
I mean i only slipped 10 mins, wrote up to a 30 page filter, had to bus my team mates hard.

I skimmed that game, I remember you having a lot of content and freeflowing the thread. Doesn't mean you're an experienced scum.

Maybe as Koshy says it's a mistake and busy scum busy geript or yamato didn't shoot someone in time N1, and decided to go with MYLO N2 taking the risk of a save N3. That's a big maybe. It takes 5 seconds to put the NK on someone just in case. The simple explanation is that the no-kill N1 was premeditated, and you're the only one that could do that because you're new, you makes weird play and you were super townread by everyone I think.

I highly recommend the scum QT, it is very WIFOM with me and SLAM!

So it was premeditated correct? I'll entertain this,
What do you think i would gain from it?

Already answered that. Nothing, it was a mistake. What I'm saying is that I don't think yamato or geript would make that mistake.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 16:56 GMT
#1260
On March 19 2016 01:50 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 01:43 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:39 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:26 Rels wrote:
Basically if scum was smart it would either be LYLO or it would be over already. I can't imagine yamato and geript not being smart. So it's Shape.

Rels,
As someone who appearlenty read or know about Newbie XIX, would you call me a dumb scum in that game?
I mean i only slipped 10 mins, wrote up to a 30 page filter, had to bus my team mates hard.

I skimmed that game, I remember you having a lot of content and freeflowing the thread. Doesn't mean you're an experienced scum.

Maybe as Koshy says it's a mistake and busy scum busy geript or yamato didn't shoot someone in time N1, and decided to go with MYLO N2 taking the risk of a save N3. That's a big maybe. It takes 5 seconds to put the NK on someone just in case. The simple explanation is that the no-kill N1 was premeditated, and you're the only one that could do that because you're new, you makes weird play and you were super townread by everyone I think.

I highly recommend the scum QT, it is very WIFOM with me and SLAM!

So it was premeditated correct? I'll entertain this,
What do you think i would gain from it?

Already answered that. Nothing, it was a mistake. What I'm saying is that I don't think yamato or geript would make that mistake.

So it was premeditated, but yet a mistake?
Or am i missing something?

I think it's very unlikely scum misses a shot by mistake. So I think the N1 no-kill was premeditated.
So, if you're scum, you did that premeditated and I don't know why you did that. It was clearly a mistake since it gave town a mislynch. BUT after N2 no-kill you had a whole post about why scum would no-kill and how that pointed at Tumble being town, so you as scum would have a reason to do it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 17:01 GMT
#1262
On March 19 2016 01:59 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 01:56 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:50 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:43 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:39 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:26 Rels wrote:
Basically if scum was smart it would either be LYLO or it would be over already. I can't imagine yamato and geript not being smart. So it's Shape.

Rels,
As someone who appearlenty read or know about Newbie XIX, would you call me a dumb scum in that game?
I mean i only slipped 10 mins, wrote up to a 30 page filter, had to bus my team mates hard.

I skimmed that game, I remember you having a lot of content and freeflowing the thread. Doesn't mean you're an experienced scum.

Maybe as Koshy says it's a mistake and busy scum busy geript or yamato didn't shoot someone in time N1, and decided to go with MYLO N2 taking the risk of a save N3. That's a big maybe. It takes 5 seconds to put the NK on someone just in case. The simple explanation is that the no-kill N1 was premeditated, and you're the only one that could do that because you're new, you makes weird play and you were super townread by everyone I think.

I highly recommend the scum QT, it is very WIFOM with me and SLAM!

So it was premeditated correct? I'll entertain this,
What do you think i would gain from it?

Already answered that. Nothing, it was a mistake. What I'm saying is that I don't think yamato or geript would make that mistake.

So it was premeditated, but yet a mistake?
Or am i missing something?

I think it's very unlikely scum misses a shot by mistake. So I think the N1 no-kill was premeditated.
So, if you're scum, you did that premeditated and I don't know why you did that. It was clearly a mistake since it gave town a mislynch. BUT after N2 no-kill you had a whole post about why scum would no-kill and how that pointed at Tumble being town, so you as scum would have a reason to do it.

I had a suppose reason that town read (my bad, in the moment i was swayed but oh well) the person who was the easiest Pray? As scum?

This is absolutely not something that scum doesn't do so it doesn't prove anything one way or the other. Especially since that didn't stop you from scumreading + voting him.
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