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On March 10 2016 22:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 22:02 Koshi wrote:
My biggest reason to suspect Rels is that has no conviction in solving the game and his reads.
1-"We need the info from the flip"
2- The push on Alakaslam
3- "geript 100% mafia even if Alakaslam isn't mafia"
4- The constant double reads. "x is mafia but x could be town because this reason" "x is town but could be mafia because y"
5- How he attempted to read me twice but cannot commit an alignment on me.
I would feel better voting him first because I think he really is mafia but Vivax deserves to be out of this game. 1-Rels said we need d1 to end. I agree. D1 is the shittiest day and a longer d2 or d3 would be much more helpful. 2-His push on alaka was justified by reasons. 3-A little bit of an overreaction, but he wanted a flip and geript took it away from him. It's like dangling a chocolate in front of your face and pulling it away when you are about to bite it. I can see why that would make him mad. 4-I don't know whwy that's scummy. 5-So?
1. Sure. But he doesn't need the info to solve the game.
2. meh. I don't agree. But he had reasons.
3. Sure. But he didn't stay logical.
4. meta. I don't like it because he doesn't allow himself to solve the game like this.
5. Very strange.
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On March 10 2016 22:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 21:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 10 2016 21:29 Koshi wrote:
I fucking hope that is your townlist and you forgot me.
How is Shape even mafia at this point? Come on.
Come on Kush. Are we reading different games lol. Why is shape town? If you can point to something specific. Mindmelding. I also like his tone this game. Extremely happy and carefree. For example the joy he expressed when people townread him. It was super likely to come from town. You are extremely tunneled on that early game tidbit that was pretty null. It could easily be town trying to get game going. I've remember some of your mindmelding and none of it is about why someone is scum. I don't see why scum can't mindmeld with you about townreads or what someone's intentions were. Have you ever played with scumShape? It's scary as fuck because he looks super town, writes a lot, and his tone is very happy and carefree.
Yes, but the mindmelding are about questions that solve the game.
Would be really impressive he can ask the correct questions at the correct time.
I have not seen him as scum I think. But this would be really scary.
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Nha. I think Rels yesterday felt like he could be impulsive as scum but failed to do so in a townie way. There is really no change in his logic after both me and Shape explained it could be town geript.
Shape is without doubt town Kush. Look how he approached geript yesterday. You can see him analyze the geript unvote and see him think about it. The difference between Rels and Shape really is mafia vs town.
I think Rels thought town would be more outraged and decided to play outraged till he went to bed and re-asses in the morning if needed. But because I was pretty chill about it instantly he forgot to adapt his playstyle.
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But I guess I could be reaching again.
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ITT: 2 mafia guys trying to convince the lost sheep.
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Rels what is your read on yamato?
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On March 10 2016 23:28 Rels wrote:Scum if Slam is not.
Why is he not scum with Slam?
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Slam can you please throw out some reads pls. Otherwise you are going to get lynched... Not by me but people are going to get suckered in by Vivax and Rels.
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Rels already set-up the geript lynch after you flip green. It's incredible to watch.
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On March 10 2016 23:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.
I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility.
Is it obvious though?
But let's say it is too obvious. At least 1 should be mafia right? How is it possible the other one is so blind then?
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On March 10 2016 23:47 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:46 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.
I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility. Is it obvious though? But let's say it is too obvious. At least 1 should be mafia right? How is it possible the other one is so blind then? We are all capable of confirmation bias + pocketing.
I guess. But there are enough waves in this thread to disturb the pocketing. I think enough of us already said that Vivax is mafia. So why does Rels keep ignoring it without giving reasoning? Vivax is an undisputed townread because he pushes the game forward, yet other way more obvious townies (Koshi, Shape) always get revisited.
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On March 10 2016 23:50 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:49 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:47 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 23:46 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.
I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility. Is it obvious though? But let's say it is too obvious. At least 1 should be mafia right? How is it possible the other one is so blind then? We are all capable of confirmation bias + pocketing. I guess. But there are enough waves in this thread to disturb the pocketing. I think enough of us already said that Vivax is mafia. So why does Rels keep ignoring it without giving reasoning? Vivax is an undisputed townread because he pushes the game forward, yet other way more obvious townies (Koshi, Shape) always get revisited. >  >
Yeah I have really no clue on how anybody could ever think Shape is mafia but apparently he played a hell of a game as mafia recently.
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On March 10 2016 23:52 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:49 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:47 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 23:46 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.
I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility. Is it obvious though? But let's say it is too obvious. At least 1 should be mafia right? How is it possible the other one is so blind then? We are all capable of confirmation bias + pocketing. I guess. But there are enough waves in this thread to disturb the pocketing. I think enough of us already said that Vivax is mafia. So why does Rels keep ignoring it without giving reasoning? Vivax is an undisputed townread because he pushes the game forward, yet other way more obvious townies (Koshi, Shape) always get revisited. Tell me then, why is Vivax scum ?
Because being an obnoxious little piece of shit has been his main goal this game?
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On March 10 2016 23:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:53 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:52 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:49 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:47 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 23:46 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.
I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility. Is it obvious though? But let's say it is too obvious. At least 1 should be mafia right? How is it possible the other one is so blind then? We are all capable of confirmation bias + pocketing. I guess. But there are enough waves in this thread to disturb the pocketing. I think enough of us already said that Vivax is mafia. So why does Rels keep ignoring it without giving reasoning? Vivax is an undisputed townread because he pushes the game forward, yet other way more obvious townies (Koshi, Shape) always get revisited. Tell me then, why is Vivax scum ? Because being an obnoxious little piece of shit has been his main goal this game? if you learned to be correct about the easiest things in this game id stop being obnoxious but you're impervious to learning
What you are saying (and executing) is that everybody (it has not been only me) who says something you don't agree with should be taunted/flamed.
You are a fucking piece of shit Vivax. I actually mean this. I go over the top on purpose. But you are a cancerous little piece of shit. Fuck you.
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Even if I am wrong about every read. You have had 8ish posts just 100% flaming and taunting me.
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I will bring this to the banlist. It is a fucking disgrace that this host allows this. You have been acting like a fucking piece of giant shit. It has been extremely unpleasant. I ignored it for a while but I can play this game as well.
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On March 11 2016 00:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 23:53 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:52 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 23:49 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:47 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2016 23:46 Koshi wrote:On March 10 2016 23:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.
I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility. Is it obvious though? But let's say it is too obvious. At least 1 should be mafia right? How is it possible the other one is so blind then? We are all capable of confirmation bias + pocketing. I guess. But there are enough waves in this thread to disturb the pocketing. I think enough of us already said that Vivax is mafia. So why does Rels keep ignoring it without giving reasoning? Vivax is an undisputed townread because he pushes the game forward, yet other way more obvious townies (Koshi, Shape) always get revisited. Tell me then, why is Vivax scum ? Because being an obnoxious little piece of shit has been his main goal this game? No. Maybe to you, but as a whole he posted read and interrogated people and I've agreed with everything he's said. Coupling that with his meta of being passive as scum, he's super likely town. Stop saying I'm revisiting you and Shape all the time. That is not scum indicative, and that is also wrong. Shape was likely town in my mind early in the game, and you were not long after. But even if I wasn't sure on you, that is not scum indicative.
Maybe to me? Ofc it is to me. I had a post with 6 quotes in which he just flames me. He had before that 2 more of those.
I only called him mafia. Nothing else.
It's a fucking disgrace to play like that. If that is town Vivax. Well fuck him then. He should be fucking shot in the face.
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I literally did nothing to deserve this. Second game in a row.
The only thing I did is play the game and call somebody mafia.
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On March 11 2016 00:04 Vivax wrote:![[image loading]](http://www.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/4/c/e/q/c/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620x349.14cdbk.png/1429074545355.jpg)
really sad.
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