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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 10 2016 20:49 GMT
#781
On March 11 2016 04:34 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2016 04:28 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 11 2016 04:26 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 11 2016 04:19 Vivax wrote:
On March 11 2016 04:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
isn't it common knowledge that it's a terrible idea to kill vivax day 1 because
1 he's commonly mislynched day 1
2 he's easier to read in later days
?

therefore vote slam.


forget it dude. It was possible in a game without koshi and yams, their stupidity even seems to be contagious for rels if he isnt mafia

Forget it bro, it's TLMafia.

It's interesting how Dunning Kruger works both ways.

Using this effect as an insult is (or should be) unheard of since it is by nature a double-edged sword.

Who are you looking at next after Vivax flips?

Depends on what he flips.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 21:42 GMT
#782
slam about the dunning kruger effect, i don't see why i cant be used as an insult.
yes it can refer to the opposite, but most of the time it doesn't.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 10 2016 21:43 GMT
#783
you're either on the above average or below average side of it. so it's a totally valid insult.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:20 GMT
#784
Alright, Aunt is at home and safe. time to read thread like a mad man.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:25 GMT
#785
On March 10 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 21:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 21:29 Koshi wrote:
I fucking hope that is your townlist and you forgot me.

How is Shape even mafia at this point? Come on.

Come on Kush.

Are we reading different games lol.

Why is shape town? If you can point to something specific.

Mindmelding.

I also like his tone this game. Extremely happy and carefree.
For example the joy he expressed when people townread him. It was super likely to come from town.


You are extremely tunneled on that early game tidbit that was pretty null. It could easily be town trying to get game going.

I hate to play devil acd. but, that is a crap reason to town read me.
In XIX I was carefree and happy as scum, had a 30 filter, and won. So it is also my current scum meta since there is only one game to compare too.
Also, how the fuck me being happy for a town read makes me town?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:27 GMT
#786
On March 10 2016 22:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
On March 10 2016 21:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 10 2016 21:29 Koshi wrote:
I fucking hope that is your townlist and you forgot me.

How is Shape even mafia at this point? Come on.

Come on Kush.

Are we reading different games lol.

Why is shape town? If you can point to something specific.

Mindmelding.

I also like his tone this game. Extremely happy and carefree.
For example the joy he expressed when people townread him. It was super likely to come from town.

You are extremely tunneled on that early game tidbit that was pretty null. It could easily be town trying to get game going.


I've remember some of your mindmelding and none of it is about why someone is scum. I don't see why scum can't mindmeld with you about townreads or what someone's intentions were.
Have you ever played with scumShape? It's scary as fuck because he looks super town, writes a lot, and his tone is very happy and carefree.

+1
Now enough of flattery on myself and time top actually read the god damm thread.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:31 GMT
#787
On March 10 2016 22:53 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:
On March 10 2016 09:34 yamato77 wrote:
On March 08 2016 19:43 Rels wrote:
I don't like this from Vivax:
On March 08 2016 08:34 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
[quote]
Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason.


whats the point of you mentioning me reporting in and not doing much then if its completely nai apparently

scum points for you and town points for kush

On March 08 2016 08:35 Vivax wrote:
i also give you 1 minute to tell me where the carotic sinus is

Serious post about Shape being potentially scum, immediately (it's 1 minute later and it's the next post in the thread) followed by a joke post. There is a disconnect in the way Vivax is playing the game there. He's serious and posting a scumread on a guy, and immediately after he's posting a joke to the guy he's scumreading.


This is along my line of thinking but there's definitely more to it than just the one question.

On March 10 2016 01:23 Rels wrote:
I don't have strong opinions apart from kush, Vivax, Shape town and Tumble scum.

A line on each player I have a hard time deciding.

yamato seemed implicated in his first batch of posts but he's been reactive since and kinda useless.

Koshi should be town by meta of being obnoxious + having short post with his flow of thoughts sometimes. My problem with that is that we just got fooled in cells mafia by LS and Damdred abusing their meta super easily. scum!Koshi might be doing the same, 'cause apart from this meta being town indicative, he's has reads that are either non-explained (Tumble, I) or bad (the yamato case).

Slam is not looking for scum. He's saying reasonnable things but it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game like he was in smurf.

geript is fixed on his Slam meta read + Vivax scum. Being obtus like that is generally town indicative but I showed him two games that were against his meta read and he disproved them.


I don't understand his progression on Vivax, how he got from the post before to a strong townread here.

Notably, I also don't really care for his read on me as it shows a lack of investment in figuring out my motivations but nonetheless, it's there, I guess.

On March 10 2016 01:40 Rels wrote:
geript might be town 'cause he's invested in his reads and because he reread the game. Not lynching him today.
Would be OK with tumble, slam and yamato in that order of preferrence.


Fights geript's meta read of Slam, and then says he wants to lynch him? His justification seems weak in the above post "Slam isn't looking for scum."

Wanting to lynch me for...??? Has barely commented on any particular post of mine, and actually DISAGREED WITH KOSHI'S CASE

I strongly dislike the inconsistency of Rels' reads.

Yeah that is kinda if strange. Also look at his read progession on me:
On March 08 2016 19:39 Rels wrote:
I don't like Shapelog. How he reacted to pressure was scum indicative. I don't care for the Vivax "backtrack" townread, that is pretty BS, Shapelog's conclusion (Vivax' posting is very slightly town indicative) made sense. But I didn't like his defensiveness in these posts:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape?

A few things,
Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game.
And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out.

It is a very scientific research i assure you.


About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow?

Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

kush pressures Shape into giving a read.
On March 08 2016 08:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:27 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:24 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:
[quote]
A few things,
Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game.
And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out.

It is a very scientific research i assure you.


About vivax:
If he were scum why not use his perfectly valid pregame excuse to not show up until tomorrow?

Did you think I was implying him to be scum? I just saw that and just said something about it.

About this question, Most likely. half a day-day is not that much to miss.


Most likely what?

Most likely he would use the excuss


So Vivax is most likely town?

Yes totally kush, one situation is all that i look for as town to town read someone. Does he look townie in that situation, yes. Does that mean he is town? no. You know that that is not a reasonable town read reason.

This is different from what I expect from town. More so from Shapelog, who has no problem stating his opinion.
Basically here is what I expected: "No Vivax is not most likely town, it's maybe very slightly town indicative" or something like that. So what he posted later actually.
But instead of doing that, Shape was defensive and even attacked slightly kush by saying "you know it's not reasonnable". This is a scum mindset: instead of posting his read (or non-read) and talking about it, he is like "look my read makes perfect sense and you're dumb for attacking me".
I also didn't like these:
On March 08 2016 08:45 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town?

If you only look at that then yes. It prob. would (after you factor in the chances of it being NAI, which actually might make it NAI). The thing is i do not look at one post for any reads and you fucking know this. Or do i need to remind you about how i did not feel conferrable with you voting for FF/Uon because i was not sure of their scummyness?
Am I not allowed to look at other posts made by him to determine his alignment? I am not allowed to be sure that he is town?

Why are you pressuring me about this btw? Just curious.

On March 08 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote:
On March 08 2016 09:21 Vivax wrote:
and only the internal continues into the brain

Yup.
On March 08 2016 09:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 08 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
Like Kush why are you trying to make me comment to a read on vivax Only a hour into the game off of one thing?


Giving reads is what this game is about.
Why are you so opposed to it?

Cool you dodged the question about commitment.
And you know why I am not giving vivax a town read based off of 1 post. How have you forgotten that? I been saying the reason for awhile now.

Seems to me Shape could still be in his "attack kush" mode I described above.

Again, this has nothing to do with his Vivax read which is perfectly reasonnable, but his reaction to pressure.

On March 09 2016 06:28 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2016 06:18 Vivax wrote:
town heroes:

shape
kush
vivax

town zeroes:

koshi
yamato

not even gonna try:

Slam

I dont know yet:

Rels

My current early maybe shit guess:

gerupt
morningwood

This look very much like my mind right now. You are lower than that, yamato is closer to null 'cause he is more reactive than I would like. geript's meta read on Slam is fixed when it should have evolved given everything that's been said in thread. Tumblewood has 3 posts which contains one townread one slight townread and one null read.

I understand the fact that I apparently a obv town, but I feel that Rels would of at least explain the change a bit more, considering that he did with the other ones. Maybe he town read me during the change, But i can not see him agreeing to the fact that I am his highest TR after him saying i did something he thought scum AI.

Again, my first reads were weak and I've only stated them so the game could advance. As the game went you've been very involved and saying smart things. You're very likely town.
Changing reads is NOT scum indicative. Especially since there is a reason for them to change. Furthermore, I am a very good scum. You will never see me as scum changing read without restating what I previously thought. Here I would say something like "Shape's first post was kinda bad but since blablabla that's why I townread him now." Here I don't care as much about me being consistent, I want to find scum. And I'm beginning to be angry of being scumread when I'm obviously trying to solve the fucking game.
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:
On March 10 2016 08:32 Rels wrote:
Well, good night Bros
Sorry koshi for the attack. Please stop being annoying. There is a reason nobody is attacking shape

And I know this post is a while after, but now he is sus. me basically (unless this is a joke?) Idk how much this factors in though because he was gone for awhile and might of rethought.

This has nothing to do with reads. Koshi said he was angry that people were ad homing him and not you when you were saying the same things.

My mistake on the bottom, that is why i said idk if it counted.
Ik changing reads are not scum indicative (I do it all the time as town, just look at cell or devil.) My point was that your differences and...
Oh I just saw it. NVM
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:33 GMT
#788
Oh i just realize that because of PIML or what ever it is called, I still have a vote on someone.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:39 GMT
#789
On March 10 2016 23:52 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2016 23:50 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 10 2016 23:49 Koshi wrote:
On March 10 2016 23:47 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 10 2016 23:46 Koshi wrote:
On March 10 2016 23:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels and Vivax are tempting me to believe they are a team, however the teamwork would be pretty obvious and they'd be wanting some scum coaching.

I don't think there is a good wifom play to be had there, it is not enough to dissuade me from entertaining the possibility.

Is it obvious though?

But let's say it is too obvious. At least 1 should be mafia right? How is it possible the other one is so blind then?

We are all capable of confirmation bias + pocketing.

I guess. But there are enough waves in this thread to disturb the pocketing. I think enough of us already said that Vivax is mafia. So why does Rels keep ignoring it without giving reasoning? Vivax is an undisputed townread because he pushes the game forward, yet other way more obvious townies (Koshi, Shape) always get revisited.

>>

Yeah I have really no clue on how anybody could ever think Shape is mafia but apparently he played a hell of a game as mafia recently.

I almost got 2 townies lynched In lylo. I felt like...
[image loading]
The entire game.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:42 GMT
#790
On March 11 2016 00:02 Koshi wrote:
I will bring this to the banlist. It is a fucking disgrace that this host allows this. You have been acting like a fucking piece of giant shit. It has been extremely unpleasant. I ignored it for a while but I can play this game as well.

Oh so sad, should of read the OP and inquire the host about it. It would never win, since it was said so you really are just faking for the drama at this point.

And other news, I looked at the voting thread and vivax is getting lynched so i am eager to learn how people oppose to a vivax lynch are lynching vivax.
18 mins.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 10 2016 22:49 GMT
#791
Vote Count - Day 1


Vivax (6): Tumblewood, yamato77, Alakaslam, geript, Koshi, Rels, Tumblewood
Alakaslam (2): geript, Vivax, Rels, Tumblewood, Shapelog, Vivax, nnn_thekushmountains
Tumblewood (0): Vivax, nnn_thekushmountains, Rels, Vivax
Rels (0): Koshi
yamato77 (0): Koshi
geript (0): Rels, Koshi, Alakaslam

Not Voting (1): Shapelog

At this time, Vivax is slated to be lynched. With 9 players, 5 are needed to lynch.
The next check will occur on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
Town must find the mafia before on 23:00 GMT (+00:00)

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:50 GMT
#792
On March 11 2016 03:56 Vivax wrote:
to mafia: I think shape might be blue.

Just because 100% of the time I play a normal game (not cell) and minus this, I roll a invest role, does not fucking mean I will roll a invest role this game.

There is not really a townie mindset to this post (Also thought of that with Slams just lynch me posts) Even if your town, what help is this?

Instead of defending you giving up. Still catching up, but I am getting tired of what feels like every game I play someone says they going to quit TL mafia or just lynch me to get me out of the game. It Pisses me off, because people should realized that THEY signed into the game and it is not the OTHER people faults that they might not be playing to whatever they see fucking fit.

But I am ranting and prob. tilting my Opinion on you so Enough of this.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:56 GMT
#793
On March 11 2016 04:17 Vivax wrote:
Yea im throwing the game cause i want you to lose the game, you deserve no better.

I really hope my blue read on shape is correct and I really hope scum shoots him, you people don't deserve a chance at winning this game

You know what, fuck it. I got 8 mins to get all the flame out before maybe a NK ends me (or you are scum and setting up for some massive WIFOM, letting me live yotty yot)

So, without further a do. FUCK YOU!

YOU FUCKING JUSTIFY THROWING A GAME<, REGRDALESS OF ALIGEMNT BECAUSE YOU HATE ONE PERSON> BECAUSE YOU WANT 1!!!! GOD DAMM PERSON TO LOSE?????? WTF!?!

IDK FUCKING CARE IF YOU WANT TO CAUSE HIM TO FUCKING LOSE, I WANT TO WIN AND WHILE I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IF YAMTER IS TOWN WITH ME, YOU BASICALLY FUCKING TOWN OVER.

fUCK IT I do not want to fucking rea dhti sanymore. I will use the Night to read filters (mostly on tumble because he posted and I can better read him now, and then others.)

##Vote Vivax and a big FUCK YOU too.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:57 GMT
#794
Thank god for fucking host allowing flame.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 10 2016 22:58 GMT
#795
lmfao
Writer@WriterYamato
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:58 GMT
#796
I am sorry i just lost my fucking cool.
I am sorry Vivax. I did not mean to flip like that.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:59 GMT
#797
Ok I meant it but still.
Sorry...
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 10 2016 22:59 GMT
#798
Night One:




Vivax (Vanilla Townie) has been lynched.

The night is silent.

Day two will start in .
Town must find the mafia in .
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 10 2016 22:59 GMT
#799
On March 11 2016 06:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
you're either on the above average or below average side of it. so it's a totally valid insult.

This is a good point, but it insults the insulting party as it implies they also have a high opinion of their Intel- except that people can be right about their Intel so in fact you are right.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 10 2016 22:59 GMT
#800
On March 11 2016 04:34 Vivax wrote:
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

that felt good

Yes it did.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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