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On March 09 2016 03:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):
##Vote tumblewood i can sheep this. I would say the reasons are just obvious rather than secret.
Is it This:
On March 09 2016 00:26 Tumblewood wrote:
Also geript town for persistently pushing a read that wasn't gaining much traction.
Plus This:
On March 09 2016 02:22 geript wrote:
Tumbleweed has said like 3 things all of which I liked. Anyone who wants to lynch him is scum.
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easy town reads shared bewtenn the two of them. Vivax thinks Gerpit might be off, and after seeing this thinks Tumble and Gerpit are a mafia team.
Did I get it right?
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On March 09 2016 03:53 Vivax wrote:
shape goes to town pile, kush being town is old news.
ill expand on the reasons when i see tumblewood being around
WOW! I got it right!
prob. is that I hate the fact that he town read me in this and went against kush, especially when kush has another reason why tumble may be mafia. According with the logic that vivax thinks tumble is scum. If kush is scum with tumble, it makes no sense to go after his partner without a case even being written.
I know that he did not scum read Kush, but it is weird that he drop the town read on kush, when kush did something townie IMO.
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On March 09 2016 04:07 Vivax wrote:
i didnt drop my TR on kush. I said that him being town is nothing new, meaning that I think its pretty obvious at this point
Oh. My bad on that then.
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On March 09 2016 03:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:You bastard! You ruined the secret! I don't know about Vivax's reasons, but mine don't have anything to do with connection theories. He's got one summary post and two safe townreads. It just seems like exactly the type of posts scum at his level would make, in terms of content and quantity.
We played with scum tumble, hell I was with him.
When he started out (when i was mafia with him), he had big posts, Wot's, reads etc. on day 1.
His last scum game (Team), he replaced in and gave semi-big reads. after the Mk on you and me i stop really reading that game.
His town game(Devil) featured him doing more or less what he is doing here.
So, from a meta point, he should be town.
BUT, meta is not great to read tumble. He has been able to make his scum game look more like his town game (team vs XIX) and he is a newbie. Plus going off of the norm is not really that great to read many people.
Unless I am missing something, but i highly doubt it.
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On March 09 2016 04:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 04:19 Shapelog wrote:On March 09 2016 03:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 09 2016 03:49 Shapelog wrote:
Oh my bad if it is..... You bastard! You ruined the secret! I don't know about Vivax's reasons, but mine don't have anything to do with connection theories. He's got one summary post and two safe townreads. It just seems like exactly the type of posts scum at his level would make, in terms of content and quantity. We played with scum tumble, hell I was with him. When he started out (when i was mafia with him), he had big posts, Wot's, reads etc. on day 1. His last scum game (Team), he replaced in and gave semi-big reads. after the Mk on you and me i stop really reading that game. His town game(Devil) featured him doing more or less what he is doing here. So, from a meta point, he should be town. BUT, meta is not great to read tumble. He has been able to make his scum game look more like his town game (team vs XIX) and he is a newbie. Plus going off of the norm is not really that great to read many people. Unless I am missing something, but i highly doubt it. His first post was big.
Sure, but it is not that much of a summary. Lets look at his D1 play as scum in Newbie (his only D1 play as scum) vs. here.
On March 08 2016 15:15 Tumblewood wrote:I feel like Shape's been kinda backed into a corner by kush, or at least he feels that way. How it went down: Kush flashed his badge at Shapelog. It read, "Private Investigator: Kush Mountains". "What do you know about the mafia?" he inquired.Shape didn't have much to say; he'd only been there twenty minutes, and he'd only seen three other people in his time. He thought of the most informative thing he had to say, which wasShow nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. It wasn't much, and they both knew it. Kush followed up with some leading questions.Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town? Of course, there was no other way for Shape to answer but in the affirmative. They both knew that anyone could be a killer, and there was no sense in thinking someone good-willed from just one clue.Basically, Shape made an observation on virtually the only (little) information he had, and kush drew the conclusion from it and coerced him into making his own conclusion, which was "that's not enough" and labeled backtracking. It's not concerning to me.
On January 27 2016 11:30 Tumblewood wrote:Read over the thread, and these are my reads so far: Town: (none yet) Leaning Town: Alur, Trfel Null: PepperMintTea, nooniansong, Onegu Leaning Scum: darthfoley, _MexicanAlien Scum: Shapelog My reasoning on Shapelog:Shapelog has acted generally like a newbie scum player all game. He started the game off with about five jokes and no content. Given that this is day 1, that's not too important. I'm not sure how to feel on the weird read toward nooniansong, because it doesn't necessarily feel scummy or townie, just poorly informed. But the posts that really strike me are: Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 06:41 Shapelog wrote:On January 27 2016 06:39 Onegu wrote:
But serious Shape trying to meta read kush(nooninsong) before he even posts is weird as fuck. I am not trying to read him lol. I am just saying there is something he does and as the day(s) goes on I will look for it, if it is absent, I will comment on it. Unless your scum team kills me, in which case i can just use it later on  . and Show nested quote +On January 27 2016 07:48 _MexicanAlien wrote:
So first shapelog suggests talking about blue roles, then he lists the reason for each blue role to not need help.
Very good reasons.
Even with tumble changing meta, do you think these are the same alignment?
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I will admit though. the use of [i] format that much is quite sus. Making everything into a "quote" is like the scummest thing you can do.
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On March 09 2016 04:34 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 04:28 Shapelog wrote:
I will admit though. the use of format that much is quite sus. Making everything into a "quote" is like the scummest thing you can do. the italics were because he was doing a noir flavor thing
Shapelog Stared at Kush, obviously angry with the fact that he missed his joke. Kush had a tendency with that. Hell not even last week, Shapelog made a joke about posting the conversion about The Cow (A notorious criminal) in the thread. Kush, Angry beyond the stars, took it too literary and ended up in the slammers. Now here we are again, in a never ending tunnel of misinterpretations and sadness.
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On March 09 2016 05:45 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 04:28 Shapelog wrote:
I will admit though. the use of format that much is quite sus. Making everything into a "quote" is like the scummest thing you can do. No.
[i]Shapelog glared at Slam, Kush he might of been able to understand. BUT SLAM! His old teacher in the police department, the one that taught him to look at crime through the eyes of chupizi. Just fucking failed to look through the eyes of the chunpzi. Perhaps, Shape thought, he could teach Slam to taste the crime through the mouth of the Trump. Be he was not sure.
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Shapelog glared at Slam, Kush he might of been able to understand. BUT SLAM! His old teacher in the police department, the one that taught him to look at crime through the eyes of chupizi. Just fucking failed to look through the eyes of the chunpzi. Perhaps, Shape thought, he could teach Slam to taste the crime through the mouth of the Trump. Be he was not sure.
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On March 09 2016 03:42 geript wrote:
Vivax probably scum #2 cba to look more now. Work.
On March 09 2016 03:55 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 03:49 Shapelog wrote:On March 09 2016 03:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):
##Vote tumblewood i can sheep this. I would say the reasons are just obvious rather than secret. Is it This: On March 09 2016 00:26 Tumblewood wrote:
Also geript town for persistently pushing a read that wasn't gaining much traction. Plus This: On March 09 2016 02:22 geript wrote:
Tumbleweed has said like 3 things all of which I liked. Anyone who wants to lynch him is scum. = easy town reads shared bewtenn the two of them. Vivax thinks Gerpit might be off, and after seeing this thinks Tumble and Gerpit are a mafia team. Did I get it right? I think I just contracted cancer.
Cba to look into vivax. But has the time to call the reason why vivax is sus. of him (which he did not know because IIRC he posted b/4 vivax) Cancer. But also then Cba to answer what ever the fuck Vivax was f5ing for.
Weird.
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Like I can understand if he post something random placed because of Work. But he posted at the same time people were voicing their sus of him. And was calling it dumb,
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On March 09 2016 05:59 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 05:58 Shapelog wrote:On March 09 2016 03:42 geript wrote:
Vivax probably scum #2 cba to look more now. Work. On March 09 2016 03:55 geript wrote:On March 09 2016 03:49 Shapelog wrote:On March 09 2016 03:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):
##Vote tumblewood i can sheep this. I would say the reasons are just obvious rather than secret. Is it This: On March 09 2016 00:26 Tumblewood wrote:
Also geript town for persistently pushing a read that wasn't gaining much traction. Plus This: On March 09 2016 02:22 geript wrote:
Tumbleweed has said like 3 things all of which I liked. Anyone who wants to lynch him is scum. = easy town reads shared bewtenn the two of them. Vivax thinks Gerpit might be off, and after seeing this thinks Tumble and Gerpit are a mafia team. Did I get it right? I think I just contracted cancer. Cba to look into vivax. But has the time to call the reason why vivax is sus. of him (which he did not know because IIRC he posted b/4 vivax) Cancer. But also then Cba to answer what ever the fuck Vivax was f5ing for. Weird. Welcome to high level forum Mafia play! I am relatively still new here, at only roughly ~50 games played.
But is it this high leveled?
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On March 09 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 02:22 geript wrote:
Tumbleweed has said like 3 things all of which I liked. Anyone who wants to lynch him is scum. ??? + Show Spoiler +On March 08 2016 15:15 Tumblewood wrote:I feel like Shape's been kinda backed into a corner by kush, or at least he feels that way. How it went down: Kush flashed his badge at Shapelog. It read, "Private Investigator: Kush Mountains". "What do you know about the mafia?" he inquired.Shape didn't have much to say; he'd only been there twenty minutes, and he'd only seen three other people in his time. He thought of the most informative thing he had to say, which wasShow nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. It wasn't much, and they both knew it. Kush followed up with some leading questions.Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town? Of course, there was no other way for Shape to answer but in the affirmative. They both knew that anyone could be a killer, and there was no sense in thinking someone good-willed from just one clue.Basically, Shape made an observation on virtually the only (little) information he had, and kush drew the conclusion from it and coerced him into making his own conclusion, which was "that's not enough" and labeled backtracking. It's not concerning to me. On March 09 2016 00:22 Tumblewood wrote:I liked how he drew a decent conclusion from Shape's observation. It shows that his question wasn't just a token "look at me participating" question. It was, what, his first post? so I'm not putting him into either category yet. On March 09 2016 00:26 Tumblewood wrote:
Also geript town for persistently pushing a read that wasn't gaining much traction. Two townreads on kush + you and a non-scumread on Shape. How the fuck do you townread him ?
Idk about Gerpit, but this is why i weakly town lean him (note that i have played with him 4x's now.)
On March 09 2016 02:42 Shapelog wrote:
This is what, my 4th game with tumble (4/4 of his games played here.) Last game I jumped to quickly to TR him because of his reads and i did not catch how weak they really are. He has changed his scum game slightly with that last game.
However, nothing so far is rasieng red flags from Tumble. If he was scum, he would have more to profit from letting me and kush continue than posting #130. I doubt also that Tumble stuck his neck out just to buddy me.
On March 09 2016 02:44 Shapelog wrote:
Basically I am ok (ish) giving tumble a slight (slight) town lean right now. Also he could of pressed Kush about the situation (as he seemed to take my side? Or atleast that is how it came off as.) and prob. could get away with sus. on kush with it following his read progression.
It's a start.
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On March 09 2016 06:10 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 06:06 Shapelog wrote:On March 09 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:On March 09 2016 02:22 geript wrote:
Tumbleweed has said like 3 things all of which I liked. Anyone who wants to lynch him is scum. ??? + Show Spoiler +On March 08 2016 15:15 Tumblewood wrote:I feel like Shape's been kinda backed into a corner by kush, or at least he feels that way. How it went down: Kush flashed his badge at Shapelog. It read, "Private Investigator: Kush Mountains". "What do you know about the mafia?" he inquired.Shape didn't have much to say; he'd only been there twenty minutes, and he'd only seen three other people in his time. He thought of the most informative thing he had to say, which wasShow nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. It wasn't much, and they both knew it. Kush followed up with some leading questions.Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town? Of course, there was no other way for Shape to answer but in the affirmative. They both knew that anyone could be a killer, and there was no sense in thinking someone good-willed from just one clue.Basically, Shape made an observation on virtually the only (little) information he had, and kush drew the conclusion from it and coerced him into making his own conclusion, which was "that's not enough" and labeled backtracking. It's not concerning to me. On March 09 2016 00:22 Tumblewood wrote:I liked how he drew a decent conclusion from Shape's observation. It shows that his question wasn't just a token "look at me participating" question. It was, what, his first post? so I'm not putting him into either category yet. On March 09 2016 00:26 Tumblewood wrote:
Also geript town for persistently pushing a read that wasn't gaining much traction. Two townreads on kush + you and a non-scumread on Shape. How the fuck do you townread him ? Idk about Gerpit, but this is why i weakly town lean him (note that i have played with him 4x's now.) On March 09 2016 02:42 Shapelog wrote:
This is what, my 4th game with tumble (4/4 of his games played here.) Last game I jumped to quickly to TR him because of his reads and i did not catch how weak they really are. He has changed his scum game slightly with that last game.
However, nothing so far is rasieng red flags from Tumble. If he was scum, he would have more to profit from letting me and kush continue than posting #130. I doubt also that Tumble stuck his neck out just to buddy me. On March 09 2016 02:44 Shapelog wrote:
Basically I am ok (ish) giving tumble a slight (slight) town lean right now. Also he could of pressed Kush about the situation (as he seemed to take my side? Or atleast that is how it came off as.) and prob. could get away with sus. on kush with it following his read progression.
It's a start. Not scumreading a townie when the occasion is there is never a proof someone is no scum. I've made that mistake before. Scum will defend town with no problem. Actually, scum prefer to not call anyone scum and be friend with everyone and don't care about the lynch.
True.
(I peeked a bit into later posts) the only prob. I have with voting tumble, is that tumble tends to this post and bail shit early on. I might be buying too much into tumble though.
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On March 09 2016 06:18 Vivax wrote:
town heroes:
shape
kush
vooby vooby Doo!
town zeroes:
koshius
yamato
not even gonna try:
Slam
I dont know yet:
Rels
My current early maybe shit guess:
gerupt
morningwood
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On March 09 2016 07:01 Vivax wrote:
Am I wrong shape? We can lynch you anytime
I just...Never been this town read while actually being town before....
Just...So emotionalllllL!!!!
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Now that I have finish crying.
lynch is in 40 mins. 2 are needed to vote the person who needs the most votes.
I still do not feel like Tumble is a great lynch, mainly because he is a coin flip right now. And I just do not like those kind of lynches. I mean it is a such a easy lynch for mafia to push here without getting any consequence for the most part.
Can someone on that wagon tell me why i should vote for him right now?
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On March 09 2016 07:16 Vivax wrote:
ill actually unvote, dont see any reason to put him in lynch range before he can even reply anything
And I know tumble can come back into this game, shit town rainbows, and still be mafia. But I rather be wrong about his alignment and lynch him next lynch vs. lynch him now and cause us to potentially lose a townie.
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