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On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi? Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town + I don't understand his case on you. Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind.
Gotta agree his few posts after the case were super "flow of thoughts" style:
On March 09 2016 02:09 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn I already made a mistake. He does come to a conclusion about geript. He doesn't scumread him. Hmm. Annoying. Still. Why structure it like that. I still don't like it. But that part is wrong.
On March 09 2016 02:11 Koshi wrote:
I just need yamato or somebody else to tell me why yamato feels the need to explain a Vivax, Shape and slam read through geript who he doesn't even scumread.
On March 09 2016 02:20 Koshi wrote:
Anyway mafia is within this:
yamato77
Vivax
Alakaslam
Rels
very maybe geript but not really.
which is town indicative.
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On March 09 2016 02:33 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 02:20 Koshiusis wrote:
Anyway mafia is within this:
yamato77
Vobby
Alakaslam
Rels
very maybe geript but not really. Other than Yamato and Slam (understand where you got these) and Geript(because it seems like you are not sure). May I ask why you place Rels and Vobby here?
LOL that quote change ^^
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On March 09 2016 06:06 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 06:02 Rels wrote:On March 09 2016 02:22 geript wrote:
Tumbleweed has said like 3 things all of which I liked. Anyone who wants to lynch him is scum. ??? + Show Spoiler +On March 08 2016 15:15 Tumblewood wrote:I feel like Shape's been kinda backed into a corner by kush, or at least he feels that way. How it went down: Kush flashed his badge at Shapelog. It read, "Private Investigator: Kush Mountains". "What do you know about the mafia?" he inquired.Shape didn't have much to say; he'd only been there twenty minutes, and he'd only seen three other people in his time. He thought of the most informative thing he had to say, which wasShow nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:17 Shapelog wrote:On March 08 2016 08:13 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does your science tell you so far, Shape? A few things, Vivax reported in yet has not done much. A course this is 15 mins into the game. And I have a experiment about the Time kushs will live in this game compared to their ban time. At every vote count, I shall note how long this subject lasts until if one VC kills him. Then time the time it takes for his ban to run out. It is a very scientific research i assure you. It wasn't much, and they both knew it. Kush followed up with some leading questions.Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 08:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shape it's just that you said that he would most likely do that as scum. He didn't do that. So logically wouldn't that make him most likely town? Of course, there was no other way for Shape to answer but in the affirmative. They both knew that anyone could be a killer, and there was no sense in thinking someone good-willed from just one clue.Basically, Shape made an observation on virtually the only (little) information he had, and kush drew the conclusion from it and coerced him into making his own conclusion, which was "that's not enough" and labeled backtracking. It's not concerning to me. On March 09 2016 00:22 Tumblewood wrote:I liked how he drew a decent conclusion from Shape's observation. It shows that his question wasn't just a token "look at me participating" question. It was, what, his first post? so I'm not putting him into either category yet. On March 09 2016 00:26 Tumblewood wrote:
Also geript town for persistently pushing a read that wasn't gaining much traction. Two townreads on kush + you and a non-scumread on Shape. How the fuck do you townread him ? Idk about Gerpit, but this is why i weakly town lean him (note that i have played with him 4x's now.) Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 02:42 Shapelog wrote:
This is what, my 4th game with tumble (4/4 of his games played here.) Last game I jumped to quickly to TR him because of his reads and i did not catch how weak they really are. He has changed his scum game slightly with that last game.
However, nothing so far is rasieng red flags from Tumble. If he was scum, he would have more to profit from letting me and kush continue than posting #130. I doubt also that Tumble stuck his neck out just to buddy me. Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 02:44 Shapelog wrote:
Basically I am ok (ish) giving tumble a slight (slight) town lean right now. Also he could of pressed Kush about the situation (as he seemed to take my side? Or atleast that is how it came off as.) and prob. could get away with sus. on kush with it following his read progression.
It's a start.
Not scumreading a townie when the occasion is there is never a proof someone is no scum. I've made that mistake before. Scum will defend town with no problem. Actually, scum prefer to not call anyone scum and be friend with everyone and don't care about the lynch.
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On March 09 2016 06:18 Vivax wrote:
town heroes:
shape
kush
vivax
town zeroes:
koshi
yamato
not even gonna try:
Slam
I dont know yet:
Rels
My current early maybe shit guess:
gerupt
morningwood
This look very much like my mind right now. You are lower than that, yamato is closer to null 'cause he is more reactive than I would like. geript's meta read on Slam is fixed when it should have evolved given everything that's been said in thread. Tumblewood has 3 posts which contains one townread one slight townread and one null read.
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##Vote Tumblewood
Around for a few more minutes then it's bed time for me.
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geript answer this please:
On March 09 2016 05:42 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 02:02 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 19:50 Rels wrote:On March 08 2016 17:12 geript wrote:
So basically when Slam is town, he has no clue what he's doing. He tries to have fun while doing something. He tries to play for his fun and others. He tries to get in on jokes. When he breaks to make a serious point, his thoughts meander. It's like he's posting high and there's the roundabout thought hidden between the jokes. When he's mafia, he tries to mimic that shit entirely. But instead of getting the meandering around, it's broken up separately. He focuses mostly on doing on thing at a time instead of just letting him his thoughts lead him wherever his mind goes.
So therefore between him not trolling (aka playing to have fun) and not trolling wrong (consistency between points of posts), he's scum. I think geript is town. I like how he is convinced he found scum and is pushing for him. geript, how I read Slam is looking at if he's hiding behind his trolling to not do anything. I would like your take in his play in outlaw. Slam smurfing is a bit different. It kinda depends on how interested he is in not being found out and how long that interest lasts. Why are you talking to me about Slam smurfing here ? Do you think he smurfed in Outlaw ? Cause that is not the case. Did you open the link I posted just before the post you quoted here ?
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On March 10 2016 00:53 Tumblewood wrote:
"Vivax, you are under arrest."
"Under What charges?"
"First degree not having good reasons for what you say, ignoring all scum reads, and a misdemeanor of buddying kush."
Sources ?
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I don't have strong opinions apart from kush, Vivax, Shape town and Tumble scum.
A line on each player I have a hard time deciding.
yamato seemed implicated in his first batch of posts but he's been reactive since and kinda useless.
Koshi should be town by meta of being obnoxious + having short post with his flow of thoughts sometimes. My problem with that is that we just got fooled in cells mafia by LS and Damdred abusing their meta super easily. scum!Koshi might be doing the same, 'cause apart from this meta being town indicative, he's has reads that are either non-explained (Tumble, I) or bad (the yamato case).
Slam is not looking for scum. He's saying reasonnable things but it doesn't feel like he's trying to solve the game like he was in smurf.
geript is fixed on his Slam meta read + Vivax scum. Being obtus like that is generally town indicative but I showed him two games that were against his meta read and he disproved them.
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On March 09 2016 19:07 Koshi wrote:
72h for D1 is fine. I wouldn't go 96h though.
Alakaslam might be mafia but I don't know tbh. I feel like my mafia pool doesn't want to commit on him while they should have if they were town. Therefore, I don't want to lynch him. I don't know if I want to trust the godread from geript either, which would be the only reason I could see myself Alakaslam atm.
Tumble might be mafia but I don't think so. Roleplayers have a very high % being mafia. I don't know why that is, but it is true. #experience. But again, my own read on him is town.
Kush town but wrong atm.
Shape obv town.
geript town.
The bold is strongly town indicative I think. It shows a will to solve the game via finding the scumteam.
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geript might be town 'cause he's invested in his reads and because he reread the game. Not lynching him today.
Would be OK with tumble, slam and yamato in that order of preferrence.
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I can't understand anyone townreading Tumble. He should be a null at most in anyone's mind.
He has very few reads. All of his townreads are obvious. His scumread on Vivax is non-explained. He has minimal interactions with the thread.
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His noir posts are awesome though.
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Leaving work! Watching the revenant tonight so I won't be there between something like 3 hours before deadline and 30 minutes before deadline.
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On March 10 2016 02:03 Tumblewood wrote:
I have filtered vivax, and he's made a ton of claims for bad or no reasons.
Sources ?
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On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.
waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.
But let's see I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch. On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum. On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):
##Vote tumblewood This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here. Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose. If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option. These are excellent points Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/ And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever.
I thought you townread Koshi ?
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On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.
waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.
But let's see I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch. On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum. On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):
##Vote tumblewood This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here. Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose. If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option. These are excellent points Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/ And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever.
"geript is right, Vivax calling Koshi town is based on nothing".
But you have the exact same read on Koshi than Vivax ??
On March 09 2016 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:On March 09 2016 05:43 yamato77 wrote:
Rels, what do you make of Koshi? Maybe scum. He has excuses to not post a lot like he does as town + I don't understand his case on you. Koshi is quite clearly town in my mind.
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On March 10 2016 03:10 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 03:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Alakaslam can you expand on your townread of tumble? Was it mainly that early assessment of me vs shape that you agreed with or is there something I'm not seeing? I literally don't even remember.
How is geript saying Vivax's scumread on Tumble is bullshit "excellent" if you don't have a read on Tumble ?
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On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.
waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.
But let's see I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch. On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum. On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):
##Vote tumblewood This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here. Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose. If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option. These are excellent points Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/ And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever.
Even the structure of this post is scummy. In the first sentence he agrees with a scumread passively, then he has unrelated comments about two others things. It's a weird post to post for a town that found a scumread. It makes sense for a scum that needs different things to be in the thread and doesn't care about solving the game.
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On March 10 2016 03:32 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2016 03:17 Rels wrote:On March 10 2016 03:04 Alakaslam wrote:On March 09 2016 15:02 geript wrote:On March 08 2016 22:58 Vivax wrote:
geripts read on slam is too high for me to understand, or maybe just too contrived, but Ill sheep it if i dont nail a mafia myself before that, cuz it sounds like gerupt really believes dat stuff.
waiting for koshi to post from his uncomfortable last position On March 09 2016 03:36 Vivax wrote:
i was hoping geript would take interest into my post about slam as that was the point where he could have gone "yes, yes! Lynch slam with me now" which would have been in line with the tryhard tone of the rest of his posts.
But let's see I saw this in rereading and this is really, really fucking off. There's literally zero reason with Vivax's first post for me or anyone else to think that Vivax is happy about a Slam lynch. Hell, at best it's exceptionally limited and tacit approval of slam lynch. On March 09 2016 03:33 Vivax wrote:
lol koshi is so town, cute This also is bullshit. Koshi is more than capable of posting everything he has as scum. On March 09 2016 03:38 Vivax wrote:
here's a vote with secret reasons (for now):
##Vote tumblewood This is even more bullshit. There's not a single read or point or anything here. Literally the only thing Vivax has done this whole game is dance outside of issues. He's posted a worthless reads post with no reasoning whatsoever. He prods people and gets them to focus on lots of little bullshit things which are irrelevant. He's asking questions of other people and somehow never gives a real opinion on anyone. It's working on 48 hours and literally all he's doing is leading people around by the nose. If you guys aren't going to lynch SLam, then Vivax is clearly the next best option. These are excellent points Btw while I didn't mention it, TY shape I clearly did not look at OP :/ And am clearly confused hoodwinked whatever. I thought you townread Koshi ? Geript has called that into question
When ?
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