EPTNoir Mini Mafia: Chapter 4 - Page 11
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First, you saw me play in very themed games: personality, season of the witch, PYP. I always calculate everything to see if a best course of action can be calculated through percentages or not. Examples from this game: I was pusing Slam and Tumble to claim blue since they were the likely lynches D2 and I wanted information, but I didn't do that D3 because I saw there was a chance to gain a mislynch should the NK fail, something a blue claim would stop. Examples from every other themed games can be found if you want. The point is, I would have never forgot to send a NK N1. Not talking about doing it on purpose 'cause that is ridiculous. On us 3, you and yamato both look like you could have done it by mistake, you were both super busy this game. But this is not something that can happen with the way I play. If I was scum, the game would 100% be over already. EVEN assuming I forgot to send a NK, I would never forget to send it again N2. Here I do not know if scum made a mistake again and if they wanted to go to MYLO instead of LYLO. If that was made purposefully, this was a bad choice 'cause there was the possibility of MYLO transforming into a free mislynch for town should the KP fail N3. And that is what happened. I would never do something that could give me such a big potential drawback for almost no result. Second, if I was scum you would be dead. We played twice where I was scum and you were town. Twice I killed you N1. In season of the witch, I was happy letting you take the mayor thing and NK you. In PYP, I was pushing for you getting a strong role (Nigella, you got Link instead which was even better) 'cause I wanted you dead N1. Hell, in PYP Onegu claimed during the last minute before silence period that he bussed you and Koshi, and I purposefully changed the KP from you to Koshi in order to make sure you were dead. (ended up costing me the game 'cause the other team also targeted you through the bus) | ||
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From the scum QT of season of the witch : My god Can't believe how much work it took to impose a damdred check when I had only geript in front of me Geript is a fucking wildcard He gets the grail today We kill him tonight Can't believe how perfect it is Now we kill fucking geript and ls is incriminated Actually going to do that now. We can always change it during the night ##Witch kill geript geript probably won't be protected because: - rayn had a few posts asking the angel prot to be on Damdred - if the angel prot is not on Damdred, then it will be on either rayn or myself We're killing geript because: - he is a fucking wildcard that follows his gut to find the truth, so he's the most likely player to scumread me - he is very suspicious of you and he's the only person being a little suspicious of me - more than that, he's suuuuuuper suspicious of LS, he even wanted us to switch to him for the lynch, so killing him will incriminate LS as a mafia - I have the problem of being one of the town leader and not going to die; why won't I die ? At least for this night, I can explain it by sayin geript was killed because of grail + suspicions on LS Post game: On September 25 2015 16:43 Rels wrote: geript I don't know how you do it but you have this ability to play like shit for a long time, then comes in for a few hours, ooze townieness and solves the game via gut feels I think it is pretty cool p: you were the person I was the most afraid of. Hence your kill N1 From the scum QT of PYP: geript is actually super good, he has these insane gut reads all the time that are impossible to avoid if he sense something off about you. I don't know why he was so garbage in personality He also scumread me and disfo this game and he was fucking Link I'm glad he's dead | ||
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He was absent when important things were going scum's way. He was townreading Slam the whole game but didn't really fight for Tumble, who he scumreads. After this post (D2 when Slam was lynched) 7 hour before deadline he didn't post again: On March 15 2016 01:03 yamato77 wrote: I won't be around for the rest of today. More appointments, gym, work, etc. If you all decide to lynch today I won't oppose it but I've made my sentiment clear. But he was around end of D3 to ensure a Tumble lynch (30 minutes befored eadline): On March 17 2016 07:31 yamato77 wrote: Well unless we get another person here and they vote Tumble, then this will be a wasted day. But he wasn't there again during Shape's lynch since that post (3h40 before deadline): On March 19 2016 05:20 yamato77 wrote: I'd really rather not lynch today when I have no time to actually play, and then waste the one day I do have to play being silent and then be fucked on time Sunday again. We'll have to make a good lynch today because I'm not lynching just to lynch. It's retarded. Saturday was apaprently the only day he could play, but he didn't reread anything, as apparent in his last post: On March 21 2016 04:39 yamato77 wrote: I have a super hard time believing that mafia geript unvotes town Slam right before the day 1 lynch deadline. I also thought Rels was fishy since day 1. But I did read his/kush's filter and somehow exclude him. Yet his post today screams mafia to me. I must reread. I definitely don't have time to make a good decision today. Whichever one of you is the town should definitely not vote. All of this indicates scum. He's doing the minimum to survive since kush was modkilled. 24 posts since D2 when he said this: On March 11 2016 05:03 yamato77 wrote: I'm fine with being wrong, Vivax. I never claimed to be particularly good at mafia. I never claimed to be particularly good at reading you. I wanted to play a game, and I am playing. yamato is 99% scum. If he's town he's playing the worst game of his life. | ||
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On March 21 2016 15:10 geript wrote: 3. I think Hapa likes rolling people roles they don't prefer and I think Hapa would try to challenge buddy yam like this BTW this is really ridiculous | ||
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Now I have no idea where your confidence of yamato being town comes from given his play; his D1 was OK but the rest is so scummy. I liked his post on me (on D2 I think ?) and I thought it was impossible an experiecned player could forget to send a NK; but the rest of his filter is scum. | ||
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On March 20 2016 15:18 Rels wrote: No you won't. I'm conf town 'cause I would never forget to submit a kill and yamato is useless. I'm doubtful about who is the busy scum but you should not from your POV. It's my dad birthday today so can't play before tonight. We have 2 days so it's OK though. Yamato why was this scummy ? | ||
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On March 22 2016 03:03 geript wrote: I'm eating and thinking. Shouldn't take too much time. I just posted two reasons that are both enough alone to make me town beyond reasonnable doubt. | ||
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On March 22 2016 03:16 yamato77 wrote: Seems pretty clear that you're just appealing to geript setting up the me v you before actually having a geript read (by your own admission) but whatever. Gotta admit I townread geript more than you at the time of that post. And I discarded it all when I reread your filters. But it doesn't make sense for you to think that at the time, since doing that assumes that you have a geript townread too; after all, he did the same thing and you didn't call him out for that: On March 20 2016 12:53 geript wrote: Gonna read after a bit of dinner with friends. But I think I'll be voting for Rels. On March 21 2016 00:28 geript wrote: The 'forget to submit' argument is bad at best. Yamato has had original thoughts. Like maybe I've been misreading him all game, but I seriously doubt it. I'd rather you explain your thought process behind how you instantly start believing the meta case on slam after defending him all day 1. Explain how you never start a wagon but join any wagon presented. So either: - you didn't townread geript at the time, so you're treating people that did the same thing with different conclusions - you townread geript at the time more than me, so you did the exact same thing you fouind suspicious Either way that doesn't make sense. | ||
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On March 22 2016 03:42 yamato77 wrote: Rels, if you're town, I'm amazed that you seem more concerned with proving that you are town than actually considering who could be mafia. It seems like you came into today, decided I was mafia, and ignored geript's alignment completely. I don't think a town player does that very often. You'd have to be completely convinced I was mafia, which you really shouldn't be. If you're town, we've already lost I'm sure but honestly I just don't think it's the case. That is not true. I reread every post of yours and geript before making the decision of losing if geript is scum. Since I've decided geript must be town to win, proving I'm town is as effective and proving you're scum. It's difficult to prove you're scum since you've done almost nothing and geript has a townfeel on your post which I can't fight since it's meta. And contrary to what you're affirming, I've actually did that, showing how you did the minimum after kush was modkilled and were never there at deadline appart from that time tumble's lynch wasn't secured. But it's way easier to prove I'm town since I've played with geript several times and I have a way to prove I'm town. | ||
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On March 22 2016 03:50 yamato77 wrote: It's truly not apparent from your posting here at lylo that you ever considered the possibility of geript being mafia. I did. Because I didn't post while I was reading his filter doesn't mean I didn't weight it against yours. | ||
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On March 22 2016 03:56 geript wrote: The big things for me are: your towncase is interesting but it's basically "I wouldn't do X as Scum" which sounds more true than it often is and that it's a big appeal to my ego (a good one at that). Town case proved I was town without ambiguity. | ||
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On March 22 2016 04:03 yamato77 wrote: not if you actually forgot to submit lol 1 - That's the first reason I can't be scum. 2 - Then he would be dead N2. | ||
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On March 22 2016 04:08 yamato77 wrote: That's just not a compelling argument at all really Nightkills have a lot more behind them than just "I think this person is good as town" It is when I complained in every QT that geript should be killed N1. | ||
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