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On March 19 2016 02:06 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2016 02:01 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 01:59 Shapelog wrote:On March 19 2016 01:56 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 01:50 Shapelog wrote:On March 19 2016 01:43 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:On March 19 2016 01:39 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 01:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 19 2016 01:26 Rels wrote:
Basically if scum was smart it would either be LYLO or it would be over already. I can't imagine yamato and geript not being smart. So it's Shape. Rels, As someone who appearlenty read or know about Newbie XIX, would you call me a dumb scum in that game? I mean i only slipped 10 mins, wrote up to a 30 page filter, had to bus my team mates hard.  I skimmed that game, I remember you having a lot of content and freeflowing the thread. Doesn't mean you're an experienced scum.Maybe as Koshy says it's a mistake and busy scum busy geript or yamato didn't shoot someone in time N1, and decided to go with MYLO N2 taking the risk of a save N3. That's a big maybe. It takes 5 seconds to put the NK on someone just in case. The simple explanation is that the no-kill N1 was premeditated, and you're the only one that could do that because you're new, you makes weird play and you were super townread by everyone I think. I highly recommend the scum QT, it is very WIFOM with me and SLAM! So it was premeditated correct? I'll entertain this, What do you think i would gain from it? Already answered that. Nothing, it was a mistake. What I'm saying is that I don't think yamato or geript would make that mistake. So it was premeditated, but yet a mistake? Or am i missing something? I think it's very unlikely scum misses a shot by mistake. So I think the N1 no-kill was premeditated. So, if you're scum, you did that premeditated and I don't know why you did that. It was clearly a mistake since it gave town a mislynch. BUT after N2 no-kill you had a whole post about why scum would no-kill and how that pointed at Tumble being town, so you as scum would have a reason to do it. I had a suppose reason that town read (my bad, in the moment i was swayed but oh well) the person who was the easiest Pray? As scum? This is absolutely not something that scum doesn't do so it doesn't prove anything one way or the other. Especially since that didn't stop you from scumreading + voting him. I FORGOT! And in the moment i was swayed by thread. + Show Spoiler +Off topic, but i just realized that in every game that i played, and she obed. Sky has called me scum XD
Then why bring up the fact that you townread him when he was the easiest pray p:
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On March 19 2016 02:16 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2016 02:09 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 02:06 Shapelog wrote:On March 19 2016 02:01 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 01:59 Shapelog wrote:On March 19 2016 01:56 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 01:50 Shapelog wrote:On March 19 2016 01:43 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:On March 19 2016 01:39 Rels wrote:
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I skimmed that game, I remember you having a lot of content and freeflowing the thread. Doesn't mean you're an experienced scum.
Maybe as Koshy says it's a mistake and busy scum busy geript or yamato didn't shoot someone in time N1, and decided to go with MYLO N2 taking the risk of a save N3. That's a big maybe. It takes 5 seconds to put the NK on someone just in case. The simple explanation is that the no-kill N1 was premeditated, and you're the only one that could do that because you're new, you makes weird play and you were super townread by everyone I think. I highly recommend the scum QT, it is very WIFOM with me and SLAM! So it was premeditated correct? I'll entertain this, What do you think i would gain from it? Already answered that. Nothing, it was a mistake. What I'm saying is that I don't think yamato or geript would make that mistake. So it was premeditated, but yet a mistake? Or am i missing something? I think it's very unlikely scum misses a shot by mistake. So I think the N1 no-kill was premeditated. So, if you're scum, you did that premeditated and I don't know why you did that. It was clearly a mistake since it gave town a mislynch. BUT after N2 no-kill you had a whole post about why scum would no-kill and how that pointed at Tumble being town, so you as scum would have a reason to do it. I had a suppose reason that town read (my bad, in the moment i was swayed but oh well) the person who was the easiest Pray? As scum? This is absolutely not something that scum doesn't do so it doesn't prove anything one way or the other. Especially since that didn't stop you from scumreading + voting him. I FORGOT! And in the moment i was swayed by thread. + Show Spoiler +Off topic, but i just realized that in every game that i played, and she obed. Sky has called me scum XD Then why bring up the fact that you townread him when he was the easiest pray p: BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD POINT! -.- Eh, on and off so i can't filter.
No you didn't think it was a GOOD POINT, you said "I had a suppose reason that town read (my bad, in the moment i was swayed but oh well) the person who was the easiest Pray? As scum?"
So you're saying "I townread Tumble, he was the easiest pray, this is town indicative".
Well, first it's maybe a little town indicative but it's nothing strong. And more importantly, you betrayed him when he needed you the most so it's not even applicable.
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Leaving work so see you later (=
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Except I'm confirmed town cause I would have never no kill. Scum either forgot to submit a kill or thought it was a good idea. It's not possible I did either of these so I am confirmed town.
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Yeah I didn't have a lot of time to play this game. But I'm confirmed town now.
Outside of the no-kills:
Still think geript is town for the "I'm suspicious" unvote D1, which is a weird thing to do as scum.
Yamato could be scum I suppose for being so inactive.
BUT one of them being scum means scum forgot to kill someone N1 which is super unlikely.
Only Shape had a reason to not kill anyone N1. He's scum.
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On March 19 2016 04:04 Koshi wrote:
geript, yamato there is no reason to not vote today. Use the 48 hours on the last day.
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On March 19 2016 05:53 Shapelog wrote:
I mean unless I am batty here and missing something. But just because it is unlikely, does not make you confirm town.
It makes me confirmed town because I am a very ... "rule"-oriented, logical player. I would never not kill someone N1 when that meant town had one more mislynch. So if you think I'm scum you think I forgot to submit a night kill, which is as you said unlikely, but for me it's more than that, it's impossible unless my internet rooter + my network phone card broke or something. I'm the kind of player that reacted to a bus drive claim at deadline in PYP 4 for example and changed a NK target in 2 seconds.
Having said that, it doesn't matter that I'm logical or not, no experienced scum would ever give town a mislynch. So no-kill N1 means:
- scum forgot to submit a NK (yamato or geript fits the "busy player" thing), but this is unlikely I think for yamato or geript 'cause it's just so dumb
- OR scum did that on purpose, and only you could do something like this
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On March 19 2016 06:14 Koshi wrote:
I can lynch yamato
No, he could have jumped on Shape just now and killed you during the silent night to shut you up when you clearly said you were his number 2 target. Shape is 99% scum.
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I'm around but I wanna lynch you and I'm OK waiting 24h more for that to happen if needed. Would prefer to do it now though
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On March 19 2016 07:21 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2016 03:37 Rels wrote:
Except I'm confirmed town cause I would have never no kill. Scum either forgot to submit a kill or thought it was a good idea. It's not possible I did either of these so I am confirmed town. Not even close. How is it possible that Yam or I would forget to submit a kill? I've played a gajillion games and never missed a submission; hell, any host knows I'll often submit 4+ actions in a single night. I'm a planner as a person and especially as scum. No way in hell I forget to or don't submit NKs. TBH, I don't see how Yam does that either even if he is busy. I don't think I've ever seen him fail to use his role. That's not a valid reason for being town let alone confirmed town.
Exactly. I wouldn't do that either. Only possible solution is shape
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On March 19 2016 07:22 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2016 07:17 Rels wrote:
I'm around but I wanna lynch you and I'm OK waiting 24h more for that to happen if needed. Would prefer to do it now though I mean, I guess 48 hours this cycle is OK. Wish koshi would use the cofirm townie thing more but w/e. when did you start scum reading me rels?
When I learned scum didn't shoot n1 and n2
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On March 19 2016 07:26 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2016 07:24 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 07:21 geript wrote:On March 19 2016 03:37 Rels wrote:
Except I'm confirmed town cause I would have never no kill. Scum either forgot to submit a kill or thought it was a good idea. It's not possible I did either of these so I am confirmed town. Not even close. How is it possible that Yam or I would forget to submit a kill? I've played a gajillion games and never missed a submission; hell, any host knows I'll often submit 4+ actions in a single night. I'm a planner as a person and especially as scum. No way in hell I forget to or don't submit NKs. TBH, I don't see how Yam does that either even if he is busy. I don't think I've ever seen him fail to use his role. That's not a valid reason for being town let alone confirmed town. Exactly. I wouldn't do that either. Only possible solution is shape BUT I WOULDN'T FORGOT! I ONLY FORGOT THINGS THAT SAVE LIVES, NOT TAKE AWAY LIVES! Quite honestly, lets just remove the forgetting thing from this because with all the players it really does not fit. More beneficial too look at the premeditated part of the argrement
No experiensolution would premeditate a no shoot. It just doenst make sense.
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On March 19 2016 07:27 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2016 07:24 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 07:22 Shapelog wrote:On March 19 2016 07:17 Rels wrote:
I'm around but I wanna lynch you and I'm OK waiting 24h more for that to happen if needed. Would prefer to do it now though I mean, I guess 48 hours this cycle is OK. Wish koshi would use the cofirm townie thing more but w/e. when did you start scum reading me rels? When I learned scum didn't shoot n1 and n2 So this cycle?
Yep!
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On March 19 2016 07:30 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2016 07:28 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 07:26 Shapelog wrote:On March 19 2016 07:24 Rels wrote:On March 19 2016 07:21 geript wrote:On March 19 2016 03:37 Rels wrote:
Except I'm confirmed town cause I would have never no kill. Scum either forgot to submit a kill or thought it was a good idea. It's not possible I did either of these so I am confirmed town. Not even close. How is it possible that Yam or I would forget to submit a kill? I've played a gajillion games and never missed a submission; hell, any host knows I'll often submit 4+ actions in a single night. I'm a planner as a person and especially as scum. No way in hell I forget to or don't submit NKs. TBH, I don't see how Yam does that either even if he is busy. I don't think I've ever seen him fail to use his role. That's not a valid reason for being town let alone confirmed town. Exactly. I wouldn't do that either. Only possible solution is shape BUT I WOULDN'T FORGOT! I ONLY FORGOT THINGS THAT SAVE LIVES, NOT TAKE AWAY LIVES! Quite honestly, lets just remove the forgetting thing from this because with all the players it really does not fit. More beneficial too look at the premeditated part of the argrement No experiensolution would premeditate a no shoot. It just doenst make sense. Well that must of happen Rels, since we all doubt everyone did a mistake, and since i know i am town.
Yeah from your POV you gotta push this.
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No you won't. I'm conf town 'cause I would never forget to submit a kill and yamato is useless. I'm doubtful about who is the busy scum but you should not from your POV.
It's my dad birthday today so can't play before tonight. We have 2 days so it's OK though.
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I'm kinda drunk so I won't do anything until tomorrow
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On March 21 2016 00:28 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2016 15:18 Rels wrote:
No you won't. I'm conf town 'cause I would never forget to submit a kill and yamato is useless. I'm doubtful about who is the busy scum but you should not from your POV.
It's my dad birthday today so can't play before tonight. We have 2 days so it's OK though. The 'forget to submit' argument is bad at best. Yamato has had original thoughts. Like maybe I've been misreading him all game, but I seriously doubt it. I'd rather you explain your thought process behind how you instantly start believing the meta case on slam after defending him all day 1. Explain how you never start a wagon but join any wagon presented.
I said that before and I say it again that's a lie, I said ylr particular meyaread was wrong but I always said what my way of reading slam was and I applied it. I also pushed every peroan I thought was scum
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Meh geript if you're town like I suppose cause yamato jumping on me is easy as he did the whole game, game is over. You didn't unvote me when I was obvious town in personality you're not gonna Unvote me nlw
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Gonna fight bard tomorrow. Will find who is the more likely scum then will fight hard. If yamato is scum game is over I think if geript is maybe it's possible. Will reread the game tomorrow
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Geript, I read both of your filters and I'm pretty sure yamato is the scum. I can't prove that your feeling about him is wrong 'cause it's a feeling but I can prove I am town and I know how since we've played several games together. Tell me when you're there and I will make you change your mind (= that or you'll be the worst player ever but I'm pretty sure I know how to prove to you I'm town.
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