• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:12
CEST 13:12
KST 20:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou21Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four3BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET9Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)81
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou The New Patch Killed Mech! Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Season 3 Qualifier Links and Dates $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24 Is there anyway to get a private coach? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
ASL final tickets help Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Semifinal B
Strategy
Roaring Currents ASL final Relatively freeroll strategies BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training TvP Upgrades
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion!
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1622 users

Noir Mini Mafia: Chapter 4 - Page 10

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 17:09 GMT
#1265
On March 19 2016 02:06 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 02:01 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:59 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:56 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:50 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:43 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:39 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:32 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:26 Rels wrote:
Basically if scum was smart it would either be LYLO or it would be over already. I can't imagine yamato and geript not being smart. So it's Shape.

Rels,
As someone who appearlenty read or know about Newbie XIX, would you call me a dumb scum in that game?
I mean i only slipped 10 mins, wrote up to a 30 page filter, had to bus my team mates hard.

I skimmed that game, I remember you having a lot of content and freeflowing the thread. Doesn't mean you're an experienced scum.

Maybe as Koshy says it's a mistake and busy scum busy geript or yamato didn't shoot someone in time N1, and decided to go with MYLO N2 taking the risk of a save N3. That's a big maybe. It takes 5 seconds to put the NK on someone just in case. The simple explanation is that the no-kill N1 was premeditated, and you're the only one that could do that because you're new, you makes weird play and you were super townread by everyone I think.

I highly recommend the scum QT, it is very WIFOM with me and SLAM!

So it was premeditated correct? I'll entertain this,
What do you think i would gain from it?

Already answered that. Nothing, it was a mistake. What I'm saying is that I don't think yamato or geript would make that mistake.

So it was premeditated, but yet a mistake?
Or am i missing something?

I think it's very unlikely scum misses a shot by mistake. So I think the N1 no-kill was premeditated.
So, if you're scum, you did that premeditated and I don't know why you did that. It was clearly a mistake since it gave town a mislynch. BUT after N2 no-kill you had a whole post about why scum would no-kill and how that pointed at Tumble being town, so you as scum would have a reason to do it.

I had a suppose reason that town read (my bad, in the moment i was swayed but oh well) the person who was the easiest Pray? As scum?

This is absolutely not something that scum doesn't do so it doesn't prove anything one way or the other. Especially since that didn't stop you from scumreading + voting him.

I FORGOT!
And in the moment i was swayed by thread.
+ Show Spoiler +
Off topic, but i just realized that in every game that i played, and she obed. Sky has called me scum XD

Then why bring up the fact that you townread him when he was the easiest pray p:
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 17:20 GMT
#1269
On March 19 2016 02:16 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 02:09 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 02:06 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 02:01 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:59 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:56 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:50 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:43 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 01:39 Rels wrote:
[quote]
I skimmed that game, I remember you having a lot of content and freeflowing the thread. Doesn't mean you're an experienced scum.

Maybe as Koshy says it's a mistake and busy scum busy geript or yamato didn't shoot someone in time N1, and decided to go with MYLO N2 taking the risk of a save N3. That's a big maybe. It takes 5 seconds to put the NK on someone just in case. The simple explanation is that the no-kill N1 was premeditated, and you're the only one that could do that because you're new, you makes weird play and you were super townread by everyone I think.

I highly recommend the scum QT, it is very WIFOM with me and SLAM!

So it was premeditated correct? I'll entertain this,
What do you think i would gain from it?

Already answered that. Nothing, it was a mistake. What I'm saying is that I don't think yamato or geript would make that mistake.

So it was premeditated, but yet a mistake?
Or am i missing something?

I think it's very unlikely scum misses a shot by mistake. So I think the N1 no-kill was premeditated.
So, if you're scum, you did that premeditated and I don't know why you did that. It was clearly a mistake since it gave town a mislynch. BUT after N2 no-kill you had a whole post about why scum would no-kill and how that pointed at Tumble being town, so you as scum would have a reason to do it.

I had a suppose reason that town read (my bad, in the moment i was swayed but oh well) the person who was the easiest Pray? As scum?

This is absolutely not something that scum doesn't do so it doesn't prove anything one way or the other. Especially since that didn't stop you from scumreading + voting him.

I FORGOT!
And in the moment i was swayed by thread.
+ Show Spoiler +
Off topic, but i just realized that in every game that i played, and she obed. Sky has called me scum XD

Then why bring up the fact that you townread him when he was the easiest pray p:

BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD POINT!
-.-

Eh, on and off so i can't filter.

No you didn't think it was a GOOD POINT, you said "I had a suppose reason that town read (my bad, in the moment i was swayed but oh well) the person who was the easiest Pray? As scum?"
So you're saying "I townread Tumble, he was the easiest pray, this is town indicative".
Well, first it's maybe a little town indicative but it's nothing strong. And more importantly, you betrayed him when he needed you the most so it's not even applicable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 17:22 GMT
#1270
Leaving work so see you later (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 18:37 GMT
#1287
Except I'm confirmed town cause I would have never no kill. Scum either forgot to submit a kill or thought it was a good idea. It's not possible I did either of these so I am confirmed town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 18:55 GMT
#1295
Yeah I didn't have a lot of time to play this game. But I'm confirmed town now.
Outside of the no-kills:
Still think geript is town for the "I'm suspicious" unvote D1, which is a weird thing to do as scum.
Yamato could be scum I suppose for being so inactive.
BUT one of them being scum means scum forgot to kill someone N1 which is super unlikely.
Only Shape had a reason to not kill anyone N1. He's scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 20:14 GMT
#1300
On March 19 2016 04:04 Koshi wrote:
geript, yamato there is no reason to not vote today. Use the 48 hours on the last day.

++
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 21:22 GMT
#1314
On March 19 2016 05:53 Shapelog wrote:
I mean unless I am batty here and missing something. But just because it is unlikely, does not make you confirm town.

It makes me confirmed town because I am a very ... "rule"-oriented, logical player. I would never not kill someone N1 when that meant town had one more mislynch. So if you think I'm scum you think I forgot to submit a night kill, which is as you said unlikely, but for me it's more than that, it's impossible unless my internet rooter + my network phone card broke or something. I'm the kind of player that reacted to a bus drive claim at deadline in PYP 4 for example and changed a NK target in 2 seconds.
Having said that, it doesn't matter that I'm logical or not, no experienced scum would ever give town a mislynch. So no-kill N1 means:
- scum forgot to submit a NK (yamato or geript fits the "busy player" thing), but this is unlikely I think for yamato or geript 'cause it's just so dumb
- OR scum did that on purpose, and only you could do something like this
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 21:25 GMT
#1316
On March 19 2016 06:14 Koshi wrote:
I can lynch yamato

No, he could have jumped on Shape just now and killed you during the silent night to shut you up when you clearly said you were his number 2 target. Shape is 99% scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 22:17 GMT
#1329
I'm around but I wanna lynch you and I'm OK waiting 24h more for that to happen if needed. Would prefer to do it now though
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 22:24 GMT
#1334
On March 19 2016 07:21 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 03:37 Rels wrote:
Except I'm confirmed town cause I would have never no kill. Scum either forgot to submit a kill or thought it was a good idea. It's not possible I did either of these so I am confirmed town.

Not even close. How is it possible that Yam or I would forget to submit a kill? I've played a gajillion games and never missed a submission; hell, any host knows I'll often submit 4+ actions in a single night. I'm a planner as a person and especially as scum. No way in hell I forget to or don't submit NKs. TBH, I don't see how Yam does that either even if he is busy. I don't think I've ever seen him fail to use his role. That's not a valid reason for being town let alone confirmed town.

Exactly. I wouldn't do that either. Only possible solution is shape
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 22:24 GMT
#1337
On March 19 2016 07:22 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 07:17 Rels wrote:
I'm around but I wanna lynch you and I'm OK waiting 24h more for that to happen if needed. Would prefer to do it now though

I mean, I guess 48 hours this cycle is OK. Wish koshi would use the cofirm townie thing more but w/e.

when did you start scum reading me rels?

When I learned scum didn't shoot n1 and n2
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 22:28 GMT
#1340
On March 19 2016 07:26 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 07:24 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 07:21 geript wrote:
On March 19 2016 03:37 Rels wrote:
Except I'm confirmed town cause I would have never no kill. Scum either forgot to submit a kill or thought it was a good idea. It's not possible I did either of these so I am confirmed town.

Not even close. How is it possible that Yam or I would forget to submit a kill? I've played a gajillion games and never missed a submission; hell, any host knows I'll often submit 4+ actions in a single night. I'm a planner as a person and especially as scum. No way in hell I forget to or don't submit NKs. TBH, I don't see how Yam does that either even if he is busy. I don't think I've ever seen him fail to use his role. That's not a valid reason for being town let alone confirmed town.

Exactly. I wouldn't do that either. Only possible solution is shape

BUT I WOULDN'T FORGOT!
I ONLY FORGOT THINGS THAT SAVE LIVES, NOT TAKE AWAY LIVES!

Quite honestly, lets just remove the forgetting thing from this because with all the players it really does not fit. More beneficial too look at the premeditated part of the argrement

No experiensolution would premeditate a no shoot. It just doenst make sense.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 22:29 GMT
#1341
On March 19 2016 07:27 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 07:24 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 07:22 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 07:17 Rels wrote:
I'm around but I wanna lynch you and I'm OK waiting 24h more for that to happen if needed. Would prefer to do it now though

I mean, I guess 48 hours this cycle is OK. Wish koshi would use the cofirm townie thing more but w/e.

when did you start scum reading me rels?

When I learned scum didn't shoot n1 and n2

So this cycle?

Yep!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 18 2016 22:32 GMT
#1343
On March 19 2016 07:30 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 07:28 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 07:26 Shapelog wrote:
On March 19 2016 07:24 Rels wrote:
On March 19 2016 07:21 geript wrote:
On March 19 2016 03:37 Rels wrote:
Except I'm confirmed town cause I would have never no kill. Scum either forgot to submit a kill or thought it was a good idea. It's not possible I did either of these so I am confirmed town.

Not even close. How is it possible that Yam or I would forget to submit a kill? I've played a gajillion games and never missed a submission; hell, any host knows I'll often submit 4+ actions in a single night. I'm a planner as a person and especially as scum. No way in hell I forget to or don't submit NKs. TBH, I don't see how Yam does that either even if he is busy. I don't think I've ever seen him fail to use his role. That's not a valid reason for being town let alone confirmed town.

Exactly. I wouldn't do that either. Only possible solution is shape

BUT I WOULDN'T FORGOT!
I ONLY FORGOT THINGS THAT SAVE LIVES, NOT TAKE AWAY LIVES!

Quite honestly, lets just remove the forgetting thing from this because with all the players it really does not fit. More beneficial too look at the premeditated part of the argrement

No experiensolution would premeditate a no shoot. It just doenst make sense.

Well that must of happen Rels, since we all doubt everyone did a mistake, and since i know i am town.

Yeah from your POV you gotta push this.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 20 2016 06:18 GMT
#1377
No you won't. I'm conf town 'cause I would never forget to submit a kill and yamato is useless. I'm doubtful about who is the busy scum but you should not from your POV.
It's my dad birthday today so can't play before tonight. We have 2 days so it's OK though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 20 2016 20:53 GMT
#1382
I'm kinda drunk so I won't do anything until tomorrow
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 20 2016 20:54 GMT
#1383
On March 21 2016 00:28 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2016 15:18 Rels wrote:
No you won't. I'm conf town 'cause I would never forget to submit a kill and yamato is useless. I'm doubtful about who is the busy scum but you should not from your POV.
It's my dad birthday today so can't play before tonight. We have 2 days so it's OK though.

The 'forget to submit' argument is bad at best. Yamato has had original thoughts. Like maybe I've been misreading him all game, but I seriously doubt it. I'd rather you explain your thought process behind how you instantly start believing the meta case on slam after defending him all day 1. Explain how you never start a wagon but join any wagon presented.

I said that before and I say it again that's a lie, I said ylr particular meyaread was wrong but I always said what my way of reading slam was and I applied it. I also pushed every peroan I thought was scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 20 2016 20:55 GMT
#1384
Meh geript if you're town like I suppose cause yamato jumping on me is easy as he did the whole game, game is over. You didn't unvote me when I was obvious town in personality you're not gonna Unvote me nlw
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 20 2016 20:57 GMT
#1385
Gonna fight bard tomorrow. Will find who is the more likely scum then will fight hard. If yamato is scum game is over I think if geript is maybe it's possible. Will reread the game tomorrow
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 21 2016 12:35 GMT
#1388
Geript, I read both of your filters and I'm pretty sure yamato is the scum. I can't prove that your feeling about him is wrong 'cause it's a feeling but I can prove I am town and I know how since we've played several games together. Tell me when you're there and I will make you change your mind (= that or you'll be the worst player ever but I'm pretty sure I know how to prove to you I'm town.
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
11:00
Group B
TKL 71
IndyStarCraft 24
LiquipediaDiscussion
RSL Revival
10:00
2025 S3: Korea Qualifier
Crank 709
CranKy Ducklings168
Gemini_1966
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Crank 709
Lowko212
TKL 71
BRAT_OK 68
Rex 55
IndyStarCraft 24
MindelVK 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 7943
Sea 3230
GuemChi 1750
Leta 513
Larva 471
Stork 194
ZerO 187
Last 180
ggaemo 70
Sharp 57
[ Show more ]
Backho 48
Aegong 47
JulyZerg 27
zelot 17
Noble 14
scan(afreeca) 10
SilentControl 8
Dota 2
XcaliburYe712
ODPixel501
canceldota152
Fuzer 149
League of Legends
JimRising 532
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King62
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor190
Other Games
singsing2049
Sick234
B2W.Neo192
Trikslyr27
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV211
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 39
• Adnapsc2 7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV393
• Ler37
League of Legends
• Jankos2600
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 48m
SKillous vs goblin
Spirit vs GgMaChine
ByuN vs MaxPax
Afreeca Starleague
20h 48m
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
22h 48m
WardiTV Invitational
1d
CrankTV Team League
1d 1h
BASILISK vs Streamerzone
Team Liquid vs Shopify Rebellion
Team Vitality vs Team Falcon
BSL Team A[vengers]
1d 3h
Gypsy vs nOOB
JDConan vs Scan
RSL Revival
1d 5h
Wardi Open
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.