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On February 26 2016 23:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
omg this game gonna be epic
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Make me junior if needed BTW.
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wow I hope my mate can make the deadline 'cause it's garanteed I will never be awake for one =X
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Yo. Got a ton of work today so won't play before tonight.
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On February 29 2016 23:14 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2016 22:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Glancing at Ticktock's last few towngames, his tone is starkly different this game. However in his most recent scumgame he looks more like he's trying to emulate his townplay rather than just not give a fuck.
Ehhhhh. Ima leave it for now. See what they say. Why aren't you distinguishing between joke phase and normal game? TT making those posts 24 hours into day 1 is different from him making them at the start of the game.
My thoughts when I read these VE posts. He's reading stuff where there is nothing. Seems like an easy way to appear to do stuff "hey guys I read some games!" that have 0 consequence.
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On March 01 2016 01:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:28 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:25 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 00:38 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 00:35 Shapelog wrote:
I already have come to the conclusion that Team Koshi, is really just 2 trolls having a fun time. we'll see. Koshi always plays to win eventually (as town) Will you lynch Ticktock with me? For science? maybe later  what's the science? I'm testing my Ticktock meta. I think he's probably more likely mafia than not based on his entrance. I basically don't even care what he says from here out.
What games are you basing that on ?
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On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Excellent, my favorite part of mafia is when people talk about me. Show nested quote +On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. Voted for my teammate, but apparently I'm not allowed to do that in this game's rules, so I guess Team Anal Prolapse is still uncommitted. On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here.
Why ? Koshi has not done anything and Felkyr has asked kinda useless questions.
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On March 01 2016 04:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 04:47 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Excellent, my favorite part of mafia is when people talk about me. On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. Voted for my teammate, but apparently I'm not allowed to do that in this game's rules, so I guess Team Anal Prolapse is still uncommitted. On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. Why ? Koshi has not done anything and Felkyr has asked kinda useless questions. Before I checked his town/maf ratio, anecdotal evidence told me funny koshi = town koshi I now recant this position.
Yeah I saw your post later to marv.
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Possible scums:
VE's attack on TT is based on fucking nothing, and has the "LOOK I READ SOME OLD GAMES" stuff. I want to see on waht games he's basing this meta off.
Koshi has an early excuse to not do shit, and Koshi is not a very good scum.
I don't like Felkyr's posts, it's kinda hard to explain. These few questions seems to be pushing an agenda of "gets a scumread on qob". His conclusion is stretched I feel:
On March 01 2016 03:10 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:47 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 01:36 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 01:28 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 00:03 Damdred wrote:
Which advice did you think was scummy? please read this On March 01 2016 00:09 Shapelog wrote:On February 29 2016 23:55 qob wrote:
@Shape it wasnt his joke, it was his "advice" that makes me susp. So this post right? On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker + 1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). With the follow up of: On February 29 2016 13:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On February 29 2016 12:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker +1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT). Disagree unless it's intentional. I don't think lurking is any scummier than in normal games. 1 active and 1 lurker is less Scummy than 2 lurkers, 2 lurkers is very Scummy because it makes it less likely that the lurking is due to irl, and more likely that it is due to the stresses of being scum. I did mean intentional lurking, but otherwise I actually agree with you. If you look at what I bolded in the 1st quoted post. I admit, there is something weird with the timing of that. Since Team Koshi posted a feel moments before: On February 29 2016 10:44 Koshi wrote:
I have decided to not post in this thread but just post in our QT. I am not sure what to think about it tbh. It feels a bit too coincidental that UON mentions a scum trait that fits one teams play style. On the same page. Maybe he was trying to respond to it? But no one was really raising a eye at it and in that case he would post "Team Koshi...." That is the post Qob, how would you compare Sentinel's entry posts to your own teammate, Sandroba, his entry posts? Did you realize FF is Sentinel's partner? Sandroba's entry post? Like, for the thread or the game? No im focusing on Sentinel rn, not this FF person. I'm more bothered by the fact that Qob says he's focusing on Sentinel but he doesn't even know who his teammate is or does any effort in actually understanding the context of his (couple of) posts. Qob's opening post was just lousy; I don't think he was focused on Sentinel at all, he was just trying too hard to find something of value to post about. I didn't like his rant against Marv either but I don't think it's AI.
"He's focusing on this guy without focusing on his partner", I don't see the problem with that; and that last line is what make me feel this read is stretched. It's like he felt the need to add another reason to him not liking qob, even though "he doesn't think it's AI".
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Possible town:
marv, 'cause he somewhat implicated. Pretty slight 'cause it's easy to be implicated with so few posts.
kush, see above. Good point on VE.
Null on everyone else.
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qob have you played forum mafia before ?
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On March 01 2016 05:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
They're the games in the archive man, I could link them but you could just as easily go look at the games yourself. Someone very old and sad put a lot of time into that thing, and you should really use it!
List the games you used to gain this "town TT doesn't joke at the beginning of the game" meta please.
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Or did I misunderstand and you meant you read a few pages of every games of his ?
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So now that you know he has done that before as town, what does that do to your read of TT ?
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On March 01 2016 05:19 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 05:14 Rels wrote:
So now that you know he has done that before as town, what does that do to your read of TT ? That he has done it before doesn't make him likely to do it again, as his further FOUR towngames prove. I don't KNOW he's mafia, I'm making a guess based on the information I have. Do you know something I don't about his alignment?
I don't understand your read.
He posted silly things => he's scum ?
Before you explained this read by saying "he has never done it as town", now that it's proven wrong it's just "he's useless so likely scum" right ?
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On March 01 2016 05:21 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 05:20 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 05:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 05:14 Rels wrote:
So now that you know he has done that before as town, what does that do to your read of TT ? That he has done it before doesn't make him likely to do it again, as his further FOUR towngames prove. I don't KNOW he's mafia, I'm making a guess based on the information I have. Do you know something I don't about his alignment? I don't understand your read. He posted silly things => he's scum ? Before you explained this read by saying "he has never done it as town", now that it's proven wrong it's just "he's useless so likely scum" right ? It's not that hes NEVER done it as town, it's that I'VE never seen it, because he doesn't do it OFTEN as town. It's a probability thing. From my perspective, the fact that he joked around makes it MORE LIKELY that he's mafia than town. I really can't fathom what's so hard to understand about this.
IT DOESNT MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE
What is this "from your POV" BS
Its PROVEN hes done it before as town so its FUCKING NAI, HES NOT MORE OR LESS LIKELY TO BE SCUM BECAUSE OF THAT
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You're not re evaluating you reasons based on what's happening
You're very probably scum
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On March 01 2016 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
VE, meta is worth a lot more if you were actually playing in the game. TT is tryhard scum.
Why are you ignoring the fact that it was in the joke phase? I take "joke phase" on a player by player basis, and from my experience with him TT never ever jokes in the beginning as town, he always tryhards at the beginning. That's why I ignored it, because for TT from my experience, there's no such thing as a joke phase.
"TT never jokes as town usually but does in thius game, points at him being scum"
"Look you're wrong he has done that before as town!"
On March 01 2016 05:28 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 05:26 Rels wrote:
You're not re evaluating you reasons based on what's happening
You're very probably scum NOTHING HAS HAPPENED FOR ME TO REEVALUATE! THE ONLY THIN G THAT HAS HAPPENED HAS YOU AND SAND HAVE COME IN HERE AND SHIT ON MY READ, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MY READ TO FUCKING CHANGE! YOU'RE MAKING SHIT UP!
"NO nothing has changed in my read!!!!!!"
Scum.
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##Vote Team Caped Crusaders
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On March 01 2016 05:35 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 04:42 Shapelog wrote:On March 01 2016 04:39 Queenfestor wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 01 2016 04:34 Rels wrote:On February 29 2016 23:14 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2016 22:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Glancing at Ticktock's last few towngames, his tone is starkly different this game. However in his most recent scumgame he looks more like he's trying to emulate his townplay rather than just not give a fuck.
Ehhhhh. Ima leave it for now. See what they say. Why aren't you distinguishing between joke phase and normal game? TT making those posts 24 hours into day 1 is different from him making them at the start of the game. My thoughts when I read these VE posts. He's reading stuff where there is nothing. Seems like an easy way to appear to do stuff "hey guys I read some games!" that have 0 consequence. well i would go one step further and claim hes behaving obvious since we just said scums are lurking but hell in the end its my team being analysed here How so. Especially when Team Koshi Openly admitted to intentional lurking? They were serious? Many times yes, i know my way around things do not worry.
You stay at null then. Your opening was super unlikely for a newb scum
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On March 01 2016 05:39 sandroba wrote:
His post sounds fake as shit. Says he can't understand the "philosophy" of the thread (w/e that means) and it's mostly filler discussion right when the game is starting to pick up, and his post itselft is filler with no reasoning for anything or any new ideas. The comentary on the meta ignores the fact we are questioning the player who made said meta and dismisses it for no reason. Pretty much as generic filler fake post as you can get. Doesn't sound like a townie interested in people's alignments at all.
Oh yeah that was a super useless post.
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On March 01 2016 05:40 TheCow wrote:
Kush is pinging me red so far. Shape has not done anything of note, conversely.
Why ?
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Why do you scumread kush ?
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On March 01 2016 06:14 Koshi wrote:
VE is quite obviously town.
Explain
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On March 01 2016 06:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 06:19 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:14 Koshi wrote:
VE is quite obviously town. Explain It's so obvious I don't have to explain it. It's not my fault you can't read. If a newbie asks me I will maybe try to explain it. You are a lost cause. Seriously. Good thing your junior seems like a pretty cool guy.
You're useless. I will push for you lynch if you're still useless in 24 hours.
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On March 01 2016 06:32 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 06:24 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:20 Koshi wrote:On March 01 2016 06:19 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:14 Koshi wrote:
VE is quite obviously town. Explain It's so obvious I don't have to explain it. It's not my fault you can't read. If a newbie asks me I will maybe try to explain it. You are a lost cause. Seriously. Good thing your junior seems like a pretty cool guy. You're useless. I will push for you lynch if you're still useless in 24 hours. My mate likes P lynchs, but might I ask. Why are you going to Plynch someone for inactiveness, right as they start doing something?
That answer is "starting to do something" to you ?
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On March 01 2016 06:37 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 01 2016 06:24 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:20 Koshi wrote:On March 01 2016 06:19 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:14 Koshi wrote:
VE is quite obviously town. Explain It's so obvious I don't have to explain it. It's not my fault you can't read. If a newbie asks me I will maybe try to explain it. You are a lost cause. Seriously. Good thing your junior seems like a pretty cool guy. You're useless. I will push for you lynch if you're still useless in 24 hours. My mate likes P lynchs, but might I ask. Why are you going to Plynch someone for inactiveness, right as they start doing something? That answer is "starting to do something" to you ? he is posting. That is a 100% increase then he said he was going to do.
No that's a decrease. I think a guy is scum, he thinks he's obv town but doesn't explain why.
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Alright folks gonna go to sleep, see you tomorrow
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On March 01 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote:
Nha, VE is not mafia. He makes sense.
no
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On March 01 2016 05:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
VE, meta is worth a lot more if you were actually playing in the game. TT is tryhard scum.
Why are you ignoring the fact that it was in the joke phase? I take "joke phase" on a player by player basis, and from my experience with him TT never ever jokes in the beginning as town, he always tryhards at the beginning. That's why I ignored it, because for TT from my experience, there's no such thing as a joke phase. "TT never jokes as town usually but does in thius game, points at him being scum" "Look you're wrong he has done that before as town!" Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 05:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 05:26 Rels wrote:
You're not re evaluating you reasons based on what's happening
You're very probably scum NOTHING HAS HAPPENED FOR ME TO REEVALUATE! THE ONLY THIN G THAT HAS HAPPENED HAS YOU AND SAND HAVE COME IN HERE AND SHIT ON MY READ, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MY READ TO FUCKING CHANGE! YOU'RE MAKING SHIT UP! "NO nothing has changed in my read!!!!!!" Scum.
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If you scumread someone for reason X, and reason X is proven false, you re evaluate. Not seeing he had to re evaluate means the read is fabricated. The read felt fabricated already before that shit. And he GTFO of the thread after being pushed.
Scum.
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On March 01 2016 06:54 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 06:46 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:37 Shapelog wrote:On March 01 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 01 2016 06:24 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:20 Koshi wrote:On March 01 2016 06:19 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:14 Koshi wrote:
VE is quite obviously town. Explain It's so obvious I don't have to explain it. It's not my fault you can't read. If a newbie asks me I will maybe try to explain it. You are a lost cause. Seriously. Good thing your junior seems like a pretty cool guy. You're useless. I will push for you lynch if you're still useless in 24 hours. My mate likes P lynchs, but might I ask. Why are you going to Plynch someone for inactiveness, right as they start doing something? That answer is "starting to do something" to you ? he is posting. That is a 100% increase then he said he was going to do. No that's a decrease. I think a guy is scum, he thinks he's obv town but doesn't explain why. Well anyone regardless of alignment is going to think their town (minus me, sometimes I wonder if lord Kitaman is testing me.) Also how is ^ of posting = a decrease of doing?
?????????
WTF are you saying. You're posting to psot it feels. It seems logical at first glance but you're not following the conversation.
I think VE is scum.
Koshi says he's obvious town.
I ask why.
Koshi doesn't explain.
The end.
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And now you're talking to me on "BUT KOSHI IS DOING THINGS11111" and "KOSHI WOULD TOWNREAD HIMSELF WHATEVER HIS ALIGNMENT"
Posting to post. You're not looking to solve anything
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On March 01 2016 06:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
rels why are you goign into fake rayn mode?
I'm not.
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We'll see. Vote VE, lynch scum.
See you tomorrow ^^
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On March 01 2016 07:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 07:01 Shapelog wrote:On March 01 2016 06:56 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:54 Shapelog wrote:On March 01 2016 06:46 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:37 Shapelog wrote:On March 01 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:32 Shapelog wrote:On March 01 2016 06:24 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 06:20 Koshi wrote:
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It's so obvious I don't have to explain it. It's not my fault you can't read. If a newbie asks me I will maybe try to explain it. You are a lost cause.
Seriously. Good thing your junior seems like a pretty cool guy. You're useless. I will push for you lynch if you're still useless in 24 hours. My mate likes P lynchs, but might I ask. Why are you going to Plynch someone for inactiveness, right as they start doing something? That answer is "starting to do something" to you ? he is posting. That is a 100% increase then he said he was going to do. No that's a decrease. I think a guy is scum, he thinks he's obv town but doesn't explain why. Well anyone regardless of alignment is going to think their town (minus me, sometimes I wonder if lord Kitaman is testing me.) Also how is ^ of posting = a decrease of doing? ????????? WTF are you saying. You're posting to psot it feels. It seems logical at first glance but you're not following the conversation. I think VE is scum. Koshi says he's obvious town. I ask why. Koshi doesn't explain. The end. Well don't confuse me next time >_<. But at least he is making us think. Though i do admit it is strange. especially at a time like this. Koshi, I am with Rels on this. May you explain it? Short Story: I like VE his vista. I like his conversation with marv. I have no problem with his conversation with Rels. What VE did towards Rels is not mafia indicative. If he doesn't think TT is mafia he shouldn't be convinced by that little meta thingie. Why would a mafia not leave a door open to scumread more people? Anyway. VE not mafia.
Lol you motherfocuker haven't even read my posts before calling me bad
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On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.
In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.
I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable.
Wow you're so fixed on proving that your read is logical.
Like, your goal as town is to find scum. Your reads evolve as you get new infos. Your read made sense before, then I showed it was a bad reason to make a read on TT. You should have re evaluated there.
I kinda don't care that your read is logical beforehands. I could understand where you were coming from even if it felt stretched, so it was a little scummy maybe. But you not re evaluting, and now getting stuck on "MY READ MADE SENSE GOD DAMMIT" instead of looking for scums prove you're scum.
I think my suspicions have been reasonable.
This is the scummiest thing you've said.
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On March 01 2016 11:23 qob wrote:I think Rels is townish. + Show Spoiler +On March 01 2016 05:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
VE, meta is worth a lot more if you were actually playing in the game. TT is tryhard scum.
Why are you ignoring the fact that it was in the joke phase? I take "joke phase" on a player by player basis, and from my experience with him TT never ever jokes in the beginning as town, he always tryhards at the beginning. That's why I ignored it, because for TT from my experience, there's no such thing as a joke phase. "TT never jokes as town usually but does in thius game, points at him being scum" "Look you're wrong he has done that before as town!" Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 05:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 05:26 Rels wrote:
You're not re evaluating you reasons based on what's happening
You're very probably scum NOTHING HAS HAPPENED FOR ME TO REEVALUATE! THE ONLY THIN G THAT HAS HAPPENED HAS YOU AND SAND HAVE COME IN HERE AND SHIT ON MY READ, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MY READ TO FUCKING CHANGE! YOU'RE MAKING SHIT UP! "NO nothing has changed in my read!!!!!!" Scum. is the only thing im really curious about, everything else gives me a town vibe though. It just seems awkward to me, the one line responses i can understand for a time like that however. The main thing that peaks my interest is that he feels the need to reinstate "scum" at the bottom of his post. @Rels, if you can understand my convoluted sentences, answer me this, why did you feel the need to restate "scum" at the bottom of your post?
I don't know. It's a weird question p:
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On March 01 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote:Actually yes I was sort of waiting for FF to respond to me in serousness but hes not, and this is the reasoning behind why I asked FF his read on QOB. There are a couple of mindsets that you have as town in a game when someone comes after you, like qob is doing to FF. 1) This person is scum trying to discredit me or try to get a mislynch on me. 2) This person after careful consideration is town whos in a tunnel, but they are still town. Generally especially early in the game mindset one is really prominent especially when information isn't as readily available. Here is what FF said Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 08:53 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 01 2016 08:50 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob why are you being so arrogant? For a player of my stature im being quite humble. I mean, i have found scum, why would i not try to expose them? Please, this is Mafia 101 my friend. Except you have not found scum so your arrogance is misplaced FF instead of trying to figure out QOB alignment or even divulge his read on him automatically takes mindset two. It is hinted at strongly by the sentence structure and how he says it, he sees QOB as being misguided and scum can't be misguided for going after a towny, only a town can be misguided. So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure.
This is so cool!
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On March 01 2016 21:13 qob wrote:Dont tell me people actually think Team Anal Prolapse is town. I exposed the fuck out of them, end of story. Re-read and look at context if you're unsure. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 21:07 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.
In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.
I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable. Wow you're so fixed on proving that your read is logical. Like, your goal as town is to find scum. Your reads evolve as you get new infos. Your read made sense before, then I showed it was a bad reason to make a read on TT. You should have re evaluated there. I kinda don't care that your read is logical beforehands. I could understand where you were coming from even if it felt stretched, so it was a little scummy maybe. But you not re evaluting, and now getting stuck on "MY READ MADE SENSE GOD DAMMIT" instead of looking for scums prove you're scum. I think my suspicions have been reasonable. This is the scummiest thing you've said. Even earlier in the day you were fixated on Viscera. I know its a bit hypocritical coming from me, who just shit on Sentinal for like 10 hours, but why not comment on marv vs. Koshi As for me, i talked to sandroba and i personally think Marv is mafia. Thats about it.
I'm not caught up, where I'm at marv did almost nothing and I agree with Koshi that if he continued like that he's very likely scum. But I saw he posted recently so I'll see that when I get there.
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On March 01 2016 21:15 marvellosity wrote:
people make assumptions like that all the time. i do it all the time.
It makes Damdred town. And it is a great point on FF. I mean, maybe it's wrong but it's weird FF assumed qob was misguided town.
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TT WOT on sandroba and qod feels super scummy. Like, it's impossible scum have so many posts that are super questionnable.
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On March 01 2016 19:47 marvellosity wrote:
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Everything Koshi writes here is wrong. *and he should know it is all wrong*. So why is he writing it?
Are you implying he's scum here ?
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On March 01 2016 21:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 21:42 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 19:47 marvellosity wrote:
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Everything Koshi writes here is wrong. *and he should know it is all wrong*. So why is he writing it?
Are you implying he's scum here ? i was, but i've given up on it based on the dickishness metric and i also read the thread which helps
OK that seemed weird to me 'cause Koshi is super townie.
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On March 01 2016 20:22 marvellosity wrote:
hey Rels, why is VE mafia for blatantly not making sense?
Isn't it a little... blatant?
Look it's you from the past. p:
He GTFO out of the thread as soon as being called out on that. His come back posts are a super scummy defense (BUT I SWEAR I WAS MAKING SENSE BEFORE) and useless stuff.
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On March 01 2016 20:48 Spikasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 20:29 Koshi wrote:
This is what happened at the Faerie House.
Spikasaur: OMG marv my darling, this brilliant player named Koshi from the Team Koshi is on to us. O Lord. What shall we do?
marvellosity: Darling don't worry your pretty head. Even though Koshi is a brilliant player, we got to discredit him. Just call him bad. Just type some random stuff. Just try not to scumclaim.
Spikasaur: Ok I will try.
*5 seconds later*
Spikasaur: Woops, I think I scumslipped.
marvellosity: It's ok my darling, I got this covered, I am going to call him mafia.
Spikasaur: But what should I do darling? I have done what you asked and popped in 10 pages to show activity. But this brilliant and extremely talented Koshi always asks me these hard questions though, I don't know how to answer them.
marvellosity: just type random things sweetie, and try to brush off that scumslip like it was nothing. Act dumb. I am going to read the game and call some obvious townies town to try to get them on my good side.
***To be continued*** Speaking with Marv, apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia. I guess this could further that.
Town.
Marv gave this as a reason to townread Koshi later so it's 100% true htey communicated on that.
They have little reason to communicate on marv's reason to townread Koshi if they are scum.
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On March 01 2016 21:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 21:49 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 20:22 marvellosity wrote:
hey Rels, why is VE mafia for blatantly not making sense?
Isn't it a little... blatant? Look it's you from the past. p: He GTFO out of the thread as soon as being called out on that. His come back posts are a super scummy defense (BUT I SWEAR I WAS MAKING SENSE BEFORE) and useless stuff. you don't know VE, do you?
Not really. I know he has a reputation of being silly but I think I've never played with him.
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How what I described town indicative for VE ? Here is a summary of scummy stuff:
- having a stretched meta reason to scumread TT (super slight 'cause it's a early D1 read)
- not re evaluating read when said meta reason is proven wrong
- leaving the thread when attacked
- over explaining how his read made sense so he should not be considered scum ever
- being generally usuless
Are all these things actually town indicative for him ?
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Why is sentinel scum ? I have 0 memories of anything he posted.
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On March 01 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:
VE is lockdown town. Jeezus.
Cause he refused to scumread TT right
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On March 01 2016 22:01 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 22:00 Rels wrote:
Why is sentinel scum ? I have 0 memories of anything he posted. Are you being mafia on purpose?
You're fucking annoying and you're ignored for the rest of the game.
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qob why do you think marv is scum ?
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On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself.
OK these are good points on sentinel.
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Here is where I am:
Town
marv / spike
Koshi / Felkyr
sandro / qob
Maybe town
Damdred / TheCow (Damdred's reason to scumread FF is pretty smart, and his questionning had a purpose)
kush / shape (kush seemed somewhat involved to what was happening)
Maybe scum
VE / bum (VE has only 1 real read which is not evolvoing with thread; bum is useless)
TT / queen (TT reads on sandro / qob are super forced; queen is useless)
Sentinel / FF (see Felkyr point's for sentinel; FF is useless + damdred post on him)
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On March 01 2016 22:28 qob wrote:My partner and my town reads suspect him. I personally havent been focusing on him too much. However after watching him vs. Koshi it was one sided and clear.
Why do you partner scumread him ?
Why was him vs Koshi one sided and clear ? What Koshi arguments do you think are good ?
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On March 01 2016 22:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 22:26 Rels wrote:
Here is where I am:
Town
marv / spike
Koshi / Felkyr
sandro / qob
Maybe town
Damdred / TheCow (Damdred's reason to scumread FF is pretty smart, and his questionning had a purpose)
kush / shape (kush seemed somewhat involved to what was happening)
Maybe scum
VE / bum (VE has only 1 real read which is not evolvoing with thread; bum is useless)
TT / queen (TT reads on sandro / qob are super forced; queen is useless)
Sentinel / FF (see Felkyr point's for sentinel; FF is useless + damdred post on him) marv town? How the fuck?
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On March 01 2016 22:46 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 22:28 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 22:09 Rels wrote:
qob why do you think marv is scum ? My partner and my town reads suspect him. I personally havent been focusing on him too much. However after watching him vs. Koshi it was one sided and clear. Why do you partner scumread him ? Why was him vs Koshi one sided and clear ? What Koshi arguments do you think are good ? I will let my partner speak for themself. Koshi absolutely blew him the fuck out, it was hilarious tbh but i dont want to be a dickrider. Koshi made him stumble over himself. There was no one part i thought was good, i was clear to me that Koshi had the upperhand, in a sense. Do you think Koshi is scum Rels? Also where is Bannon?
Examples ?
No I don't think Koshi is scum. Bannon has posted in the QT 3 hours ago, I have no idea where he is now.
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On March 01 2016 22:57 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 22:51 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 22:46 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 22:28 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 22:09 Rels wrote:
qob why do you think marv is scum ? My partner and my town reads suspect him. I personally havent been focusing on him too much. However after watching him vs. Koshi it was one sided and clear. Why do you partner scumread him ? Why was him vs Koshi one sided and clear ? What Koshi arguments do you think are good ? I will let my partner speak for themself. Koshi absolutely blew him the fuck out, it was hilarious tbh but i dont want to be a dickrider. Koshi made him stumble over himself. There was no one part i thought was good, i was clear to me that Koshi had the upperhand, in a sense. Do you think Koshi is scum Rels? Also where is Bannon? tell me exactly where i stumbled. or i might just policy vote you for talking gibberish. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 19:47 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 08:10 Koshi wrote:On March 01 2016 08:05 Tictock wrote:On March 01 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:On March 01 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Ok maybe VE is mafia after all. I'll reconsider. For the record. I still firmly believe he is most likely town. Mafia is still marv. I know you said it's hard to explain, but why is Marv mafia? Kus he said you'd do stuff if you are town? This is how I could explain it, it's not really good explained but that's kinda it: I think marv is mafia because he is hedging. The post I quoted for instance, he knows I am an easy misslynch atm, he knows Rels is pushing me, so when Sentinel says I am town, he just discredits me by saying "I am obvious town when I am town" which is perfect because when I am obvious town he can just decide to ignore me as mafia. And when I am not being obvious town he just planted this little seed in the head of a person who has me as town. Mafia type play. Normally marv uses that sentence in a totally other context. It is just bad here. He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds. Nowhere in marv his filter he has me as mafia. He is just suggesting it very shadowly. Which is very unlike marv. All this is wrong. To the bolded. I am so hedgey when I am town I make posts such as these: On February 06 2015 20:54 marvellosity wrote:![[image loading]](http://www.009.cd2.com/members/how_to/images13/7.jpg) Like, I literally post hedges. Koshi *is* obvious town when he is town. I ended up scumreading him last time we played together because he looked kinda townie but he wasn't "obvious" town. He was mafia. It was a correct heuristic. It will continue to be a correct heuristic. He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds. Bad. I play little games all the time as town. I love little games. I have incredibly fond memories of playing games with Palmar in Rock Band where I kept quoting things from previous games with "town or mafia?". Bet you can't find me doing this as mafia. I can provide examples as town. Koshi should know this. The point, which was obvious, was that Sentinel was making a poor meta read and I was correcting him on it. And Sentinel admitted himself, replying to my post, that it was incorrect. So I made him rescind his incorrect read. How is this bad? Everything Koshi writes here is wrong. *and he should know it is all wrong*. So why is he writing it? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/504019-team-melee-mini-mafia-vi-newbies-and-vets?user=marvellosity&page=2Clearly you were flustered. This is no gibberish, its just facts. You're scum, arent you?
So marv defended every point Koshi made. What points do you think were badly defended ? 'cause I agree with marv that Koshi's reasons were bad. Like, marv could have been scum if he was not implicated in the game; it has nothing to do with hedging or calling Koshi an obvious-townie-when-he-is-town.
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On March 02 2016 00:11 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 21:52 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 20:48 Spikasaur wrote:On March 01 2016 20:29 Koshi wrote:
This is what happened at the Faerie House.
Spikasaur: OMG marv my darling, this brilliant player named Koshi from the Team Koshi is on to us. O Lord. What shall we do?
marvellosity: Darling don't worry your pretty head. Even though Koshi is a brilliant player, we got to discredit him. Just call him bad. Just type some random stuff. Just try not to scumclaim.
Spikasaur: Ok I will try.
*5 seconds later*
Spikasaur: Woops, I think I scumslipped.
marvellosity: It's ok my darling, I got this covered, I am going to call him mafia.
Spikasaur: But what should I do darling? I have done what you asked and popped in 10 pages to show activity. But this brilliant and extremely talented Koshi always asks me these hard questions though, I don't know how to answer them.
marvellosity: just type random things sweetie, and try to brush off that scumslip like it was nothing. Act dumb. I am going to read the game and call some obvious townies town to try to get them on my good side.
***To be continued*** Speaking with Marv, apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia. I guess this could further that. Town. Marv gave this as a reason to townread Koshi later so it's 100% true htey communicated on that. They have little reason to communicate on marv's reason to townread Koshi if they are scum. Rels, I'm assume you have other reasons to put Marv/Spike in your town-list but I don't think this should be one of them. I can very easily see Marv saying this to Spike even when they are Mafia. They know each other IRL...
Yeah that might not be super strong actually. But marv's play makes me think he's town.
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On March 02 2016 00:43 Queenfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 00:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now. So when u talk about early aggresion - might u explain me how u think about the early aggresion of your junior?
Did you read the whole thread ?
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On March 02 2016 00:59 Queenfestor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 00:55 Rels wrote:On March 02 2016 00:43 Queenfestor wrote:On March 02 2016 00:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now. So when u talk about early aggresion - might u explain me how u think about the early aggresion of your junior? Did you read the whole thread ? I did except posts #540-~600 which i skipped due to the wall of texts while i am being sleeping / work - didnt thought this is going 2 be discussing any further - did i missed sthm?
No idea. It's a super weird attitude to skip posts.
Any reads ? Who is town and who is scum in your mind ?
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On March 02 2016 01:16 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 01:12 Rels wrote:On March 02 2016 00:59 Queenfestor wrote:On March 02 2016 00:55 Rels wrote:On March 02 2016 00:43 Queenfestor wrote:On March 02 2016 00:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now. So when u talk about early aggresion - might u explain me how u think about the early aggresion of your junior? Did you read the whole thread ? I did except posts #540-~600 which i skipped due to the wall of texts while i am being sleeping / work - didnt thought this is going 2 be discussing any further - did i missed sthm? No idea. It's a super weird attitude to skip posts. Any reads ? Who is town and who is scum in your mind ? Why is it a weird attitude? I skipped most of the shitfest between koshi/marv. So not the first thing I wanted to read in the morning.
'cause reading words is how you find scum.
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On March 02 2016 01:34 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 01:31 Rels wrote:On March 02 2016 01:16 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 01:12 Rels wrote:On March 02 2016 00:59 Queenfestor wrote:On March 02 2016 00:55 Rels wrote:On March 02 2016 00:43 Queenfestor wrote:On March 02 2016 00:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now. So when u talk about early aggresion - might u explain me how u think about the early aggresion of your junior? Did you read the whole thread ? I did except posts #540-~600 which i skipped due to the wall of texts while i am being sleeping / work - didnt thought this is going 2 be discussing any further - did i missed sthm? No idea. It's a super weird attitude to skip posts. Any reads ? Who is town and who is scum in your mind ? Why is it a weird attitude? I skipped most of the shitfest between koshi/marv. So not the first thing I wanted to read in the morning. 'cause reading words is how you find scum. nha I skipped the first 15 pages of this game.
Thanks for being a living proof that my theory is correct.
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On March 02 2016 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi is town. I am town. kush is town. VE is probably town. sandroba/qob are town.
4 slots left.
On March 01 2016 21:57 Rels wrote:
How what I described town indicative for VE ? Here is a summary of scummy stuff:
- having a stretched meta reason to scumread TT (super slight 'cause it's a early D1 read)
- not re evaluating read when said meta reason is proven wrong
- leaving the thread when attacked
- over explaining how his read made sense so he should not be considered scum ever
- being generally usuless
Are all these things actually town indicative for him ?
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On March 02 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion  Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer. so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment? are you for real? By all means, go ahead. It would be way more productive than doing this silly noncommittal bullshit on me. Of course the best option would be actually formulating a strong opinion instead of letting others do it for you.
I don't understand your reason for scumreading marv. He has strong opinions; in your case he's more nuanced but it's not a global remark. Someone being not sure about someone else is not scum indicative.
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I agree that TheCow filter is bullshit and Damdred is not super implicated apart from that one smart read, which could be scum indicative.
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I'm OK lynching:
VE (only one read that doesn't evolve with the thread, fixed on proving he is making sense instead of being interested by new events, useless) / bum (useless)
TT (his WOT on sand / qob were super forced) / queen (useless, came into the thread a few hours ago for one random question, I doubt he would have say anything else if I hadn't asked him for his reads)
TheCow (useless, his "I will reevaluate" then dropping team names without explanation is scummy) / Damdred (underwhelming ... I have no rteason to scumread him)
FF (useless, treated qob as town when he's pushing him) / Sentinel (don't really have anything to scumread him. He explained his Koshi meta stuff and is pushing his scumread right now, which is not an easy target)
People are not playing super good since there are at most 2 scum teams in those 4.
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On March 02 2016 04:06 Race Bannon wrote:
I am torn.
Upon going through his and his mate's filter I have a gut scumread but he's too enjoyable to lynch and continue without. Ah what the hell, it's kush//shape
Also I'm not positive and wouldn't mind staying in the back seat and let Rels handle our end of responsibility, with the amount of meta arguments and all it seems prudent to trust his judgement.
You will have to handle shennanies (=
kush is very likely scum by meta
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OK I'm receiving friends so this I won't be active except just before going to sleep.
I want to lynch VE / bum. VE one read makes no sense:
On March 01 2016 05:33 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
VE, meta is worth a lot more if you were actually playing in the game. TT is tryhard scum.
Why are you ignoring the fact that it was in the joke phase? I take "joke phase" on a player by player basis, and from my experience with him TT never ever jokes in the beginning as town, he always tryhards at the beginning. That's why I ignored it, because for TT from my experience, there's no such thing as a joke phase. "TT never jokes as town usually but does in thius game, points at him being scum" "Look you're wrong he has done that before as town!" Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 05:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 05:26 Rels wrote:
You're not re evaluating you reasons based on what's happening
You're very probably scum NOTHING HAS HAPPENED FOR ME TO REEVALUATE! THE ONLY THIN G THAT HAS HAPPENED HAS YOU AND SAND HAVE COME IN HERE AND SHIT ON MY READ, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MY READ TO FUCKING CHANGE! YOU'RE MAKING SHIT UP! "NO nothing has changed in my read!!!!!!" Scum.
Upon coming back to the thread he had one scummy defense:
On March 01 2016 21:07 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.
In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.
I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable. Wow you're so fixed on proving that your read is logical. Like, your goal as town is to find scum. Your reads evolve as you get new infos. Your read made sense before, then I showed it was a bad reason to make a read on TT. You should have re evaluated there. I kinda don't care that your read is logical beforehands. I could understand where you were coming from even if it felt stretched, so it was a little scummy maybe. But you not re evaluting, and now getting stuck on "MY READ MADE SENSE GOD DAMMIT" instead of looking for scums prove you're scum. This is the scummiest thing you've said.
His other posts in this series of "coming back" posts:
On March 01 2016 11:28 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 10:30 Tictock wrote:On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.
In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.
I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable. So now that you've had this fight with Rels and seen me posting in a more serious manor. What do you think of my alignment? I'm willing to hear more. Consider my vote removed in spirit.
On March 01 2016 12:54 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 12:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 01 2016 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Kush is probably scum if he doesn't hard call my team scum before this day is through. Why? He's talking about you hinting at getting me lynched, not realizing that it had little to do with you thinking I'm mafia and everything to do with the sexual pleasure you would derive from such an act.
On March 01 2016 14:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe I should lynch marv for getting sassy-mouthed earlier.
are super useless.
Nothing needs to be said about bum.
I can undersatnd if you scumread someone more than those, but anyone townreading them is beyond my fucking comprehension.
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I guess that answers your question p:
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On March 02 2016 04:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:That answers my first question only. Who are you going to vote for? If thecow and ff are the only viable wagons, which do you think is better?
I'm voting VE.
If VE is not lynched, TT is my preffered wagon.
Between FF is thecow, I don't know. Thecow is more scummy than FF but Damdred is more townie than Sentinel.
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AFK now. See you later (=
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Im way too drunk to reead anything so my olast post shouldsay what i think
I trust barron to vote good
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On March 02 2016 04:21 Rels wrote:OK I'm receiving friends so this I won't be active except just before going to sleep. I want to lynch VE / bum. VE one read makes no sense: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 05:33 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
VE, meta is worth a lot more if you were actually playing in the game. TT is tryhard scum.
Why are you ignoring the fact that it was in the joke phase? I take "joke phase" on a player by player basis, and from my experience with him TT never ever jokes in the beginning as town, he always tryhards at the beginning. That's why I ignored it, because for TT from my experience, there's no such thing as a joke phase. "TT never jokes as town usually but does in thius game, points at him being scum" "Look you're wrong he has done that before as town!" On March 01 2016 05:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 05:26 Rels wrote:
You're not re evaluating you reasons based on what's happening
You're very probably scum NOTHING HAS HAPPENED FOR ME TO REEVALUATE! THE ONLY THIN G THAT HAS HAPPENED HAS YOU AND SAND HAVE COME IN HERE AND SHIT ON MY READ, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MY READ TO FUCKING CHANGE! YOU'RE MAKING SHIT UP! "NO nothing has changed in my read!!!!!!" Scum. Upon coming back to the thread he had one scummy defense: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 21:07 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.
In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.
I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable. Wow you're so fixed on proving that your read is logical. Like, your goal as town is to find scum. Your reads evolve as you get new infos. Your read made sense before, then I showed it was a bad reason to make a read on TT. You should have re evaluated there. I kinda don't care that your read is logical beforehands. I could understand where you were coming from even if it felt stretched, so it was a little scummy maybe. But you not re evaluting, and now getting stuck on "MY READ MADE SENSE GOD DAMMIT" instead of looking for scums prove you're scum. I think my suspicions have been reasonable. This is the scummiest thing you've said. His other posts in this series of "coming back" posts: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 11:28 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 10:30 Tictock wrote:On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.
In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.
I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable. So now that you've had this fight with Rels and seen me posting in a more serious manor. What do you think of my alignment? I'm willing to hear more. Consider my vote removed in spirit. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 12:54 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 01 2016 12:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 01 2016 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Kush is probably scum if he doesn't hard call my team scum before this day is through. Why? He's talking about you hinting at getting me lynched, not realizing that it had little to do with you thinking I'm mafia and everything to do with the sexual pleasure you would derive from such an act. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 14:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe I should lynch marv for getting sassy-mouthed earlier. are super useless. Nothing needs to be said about bum. I can undersatnd if you scumread someone more than those, but anyone townreading them is beyond my fucking comprehension.
Yeah let's not kill ve cause he sounds fucking townie. Let's kill fucking Rels cause he s a good scum so he could be scum being super townie and because he's fucking European and not there for deadline. He doesn't care for the lynch too! It's not like he posted all his reads with explanation before leaving ...
On other news I agree with the modkill complaint. Modkill shouldn't care for "what is the most fair way to do them". Damdred should have been modkilled and the game should have continued OR kush shoukd have been modkilled and the game should have transitioned into D3 without another kill. It was super unfair for town and not consistent the way it happened.
Damdred being "modlynched " happened cause he was 99% the lynch. Kush not being "mod night killed" happened cause he was 99% not the scum kill. It's bad reasonning cause modkill shouldn't depend on the game situation.
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Town played super badly and deserved to lose.
Scum played super badly and deserved to lose.
Host made a mistake that decided the game.
Overall a pretty bad game. But I liked the setup concept, it was super cool.
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On March 06 2016 20:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2016 20:15 Rels wrote:
Town played super badly and deserved to lose.
Scum played super badly and deserved to lose.
Host made a mistake that decided the game.
Overall a pretty bad game. But I liked the setup concept, it was super cool. Speak for yourself, i played nearly perfectly.
Still have no idea why you townread ve.
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On March 06 2016 20:24 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2016 20:21 Rels wrote:On March 06 2016 20:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 06 2016 20:15 Rels wrote:
Town played super badly and deserved to lose.
Scum played super badly and deserved to lose.
Host made a mistake that decided the game.
Overall a pretty bad game. But I liked the setup concept, it was super cool. Speak for yourself, i played nearly perfectly. Still have no idea why you townread ve. because he *does* do retarded shit as town  i got cownado right and then realised i made a wrong townread and attacked the townread i thought i got wrong before i died. sandroba played a perfect day 1 but unfortunately couldn't see through VE on the final day when VE was the only one confident in the state of affairs which was super scummy, which Koshi eventually kinda realised.
Yeah you attacked him n1. OK you can leave yourself out of the bad town statement ^^
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In Oulaw, Damdred (1) didn't fakeclaim to save his life but to kill a guy he thought was scum without blue needing to CC and (2) was heavily criticized for it.
In the exact same situation, Damdred probaly wouldn't do it again 'cause he was heavily criticized for it 'cause it was kinda bad. But it's not even the same situation, 'cause Damdred only claimed to save his life here. 100% scum, there was 0 chance VT!Damdred claimed blue to save his life when he was not blue.
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Dunno, it's straightforward to me.
Town almost never fakeclaims to save their own life. They can do it for other reasons but not for survival. You're wrong thinking it's a likely reality that VT fakeclaims to save themselves.
I also believe that town should never fakeclaim period, but I can see the benefits of roleswapping or gauging reaction by fakeclaim a red check.
Scum will always fakeclaim to save their own life if they are the lynch, 'cause it gets them a benefit over simply being lynched.
Anyway TT I liked your mindset this game, you had good thoughts that happened to be wrong but whatever it was super cool to read how sandroba was scum for participating in a scum plan. It could have been true. But how you played your role was kinda bad.
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