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On March 03 2016 10:47 sandroba wrote:
what is up with marv's plan then to offensive role block. wtf.
so it's more likely damdy is lying because he does not understand his own role.
And TT is just a damn criminal for not comming foward with this info before.
There's a good 5 teams who weren't aware you can't block KP (actually I didn't even know until I tried to find out which member sends in the KP), they can't all be scum.
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On March 03 2016 10:48 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 10:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2016 10:44 Tictock wrote:On March 03 2016 10:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2016 10:39 Tictock wrote:
My guess is it's Team Cownado and Team Anal Prolapse.
Marv was prob killed to further implement Team OMGUS, but it's possible they are scum instead of FF's team. You're telling me in order to save ourselves FF and I bussed our teammate? It's not impossible. You are more than welcome to prove me wrong. What do you think we gain from that? Why wouldn't we just claim JK? You had FF to spam up the thread. Damdred prob didn't have time, and Cow has gone poof. So they claimed. I also know Damdred loves to bus as scum, and what good scumlet doesn't love to double bus? It really confuses us townies... well usually.
So let me get this straight:
1. I'm scum and about to be lynched
2. To avoid this, I bus the shit out of my teammate
3. My teammate is now about to be lynched
4. To avoid this, he claims a role with a 25% chance of successfully avoiding CC
5. All of this works and JAT gets lynched instead
I can't even read the thread correctly, there's no way we could pull off a Joker level maneuver like that.
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On March 03 2016 10:51 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 05:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still a 25% chance there's a parity cop and Damdy was full of shit. What do you mean here?
Damdred took the risk and claimed JK. Assuming he's scum there's 1 in 4 setups where nobody can counterclaim (the one with parity cop and JK, since parity cop doesn't know if there's a JK or not)
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On March 03 2016 10:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Worst case scenario:
5-2 now
lynch incorrect jk claim
4-2
nk
3-2 lynch mafia fakeclaim
3-1
nk
2-1
IDK why mafia would cc now just to maybe achieve a final 3 situation down the line...
If TT is right then the fakeclaim is a green.
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On March 03 2016 11:15 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 10:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2016 10:48 Tictock wrote:On March 03 2016 10:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2016 10:44 Tictock wrote:On March 03 2016 10:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 03 2016 10:39 Tictock wrote:
My guess is it's Team Cownado and Team Anal Prolapse.
Marv was prob killed to further implement Team OMGUS, but it's possible they are scum instead of FF's team. You're telling me in order to save ourselves FF and I bussed our teammate? It's not impossible. You are more than welcome to prove me wrong. What do you think we gain from that? Why wouldn't we just claim JK? You had FF to spam up the thread. Damdred prob didn't have time, and Cow has gone poof. So they claimed. I also know Damdred loves to bus as scum, and what good scumlet doesn't love to double bus? It really confuses us townies... well usually. So let me get this straight: 1. I'm scum and about to be lynched 2. To avoid this, I bus the shit out of my teammate 3. My teammate is now about to be lynched 4. To avoid this, he claims a role with a 25% chance of successfully avoiding CC 5. All of this works and JAT gets lynched instead I can't even read the thread correctly, there's no way we could pull off a Joker level maneuver like that. Point 2 is false You didn't bus the shit out of cownadow, you barely even said any reasons why they were scum. You like only vote them after they voted you. And the votes on each other by both teams were severely underexplained. If team cownadow flip mafia then points 3-5 are a given. So this does not seem far-fetched at all. If team cownadow is scum WHY would they try to pull a Rels lynch out of thin air instead of lynching your team?
On March 02 2016 05:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote:
The activity and lack of anything I think shows to a scum mindset. Ok buddy you convinced me ##Vote: Team Thecownadow
On March 02 2016 06:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 06:11 Damdred wrote:
FF is a smart player generally who has good reads and besides the cell game he was out of early he rolled scum 3-4 times in a row
I'm the cell game he was taken put of he said that he was super tires of rolling scum and happy he rolled tpwm.
Just from a tone standpoint he 100% shows none of his joy/happiness that he rolled town. Instead it is more of a resignation it feels like.
His dodging of my question and then saying I was stretching my thought on his scum slip. And since then basically hasn't done anything that says town ff.
Sents vote on me also feels super opportunistic without any real thought behind it.
I'll give more reasons for sent in a moment. It's more on cow than you per se. I didn't like him since that sheep vote.
On March 02 2016 06:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 06:15 Felkyr wrote:On March 02 2016 02:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 02:23 Felkyr wrote:On March 02 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Killed that exam. I'm fucking amazing at number theory. Anyways let's see what people are saying about my favorite player in the game. So let's first look at the accusations provided by Felkyr: + Show Spoiler +On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. On March 01 2016 23:56 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
Koshi do you want to be a pretend-mason with me? Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.
I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.
They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.
If they arent scum then pls improve. why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 07:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Still waiting on explanation of this never mafia on mafia. Who is mafia? Or town on town? lol, thats such a dumb quote. Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. Even if he didn't check the meta beforehand, it all feels very fabricated and unnatural to me. He seems too eager to disregard his earlier post an explain himself. Also look at this: Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 03:01 Damdred wrote:
I actually think its a good newbie tactic especially given they are paired up with someone to seem upset. Well especially if koshi is the other pair of mafia at least.
But thats to associative for me. I still think the anger is misplaced and not really going along to see where you are going made me go hm. Btw i take it koshi was scum in all those Yup, it's The Mafia Awakens if I'm not mistaken. On March 01 2016 03:00 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. What a foolish statement, i only speak facts, the sooner you realize this the sooner you'll save yourself from embarrassment. You're still doing it. Now he really did check all the games and he counted the ones where Koshi was Mafia. He must know which game it was. Just feels a bit off to me, as if he's trying to overcompensate for his error. For your silly game, he went totally overboard. Stressed? I can actually address these in tandem. I may in fact be the evil scum you think I am, but let's look at this through another lens: You see, I'm kinda dumb. I act before I think a lot. Personally I think it makes for an excellent game of mafia. It makes people open to say things they wouldn't otherwise say. It's a little like drunken kung fu. Anyways, my simple explanation for my thought process is this: 1. I see accusations levied against Koshi, namely his early D1 trolling. 2. I recall games I've played (and hosted) where he's done this. Can't think of a single time where he's been jovial and scum. I express these sentiments. 3. Marv points out a game where he did this and was in fact scum. I think to myself, "Well let's see what the trend is, because I'm definitely right and need to prove it". 4. I look up a phrase that signifies this kind of mood: "totes town". I see mostly town Koshi using it. 5. I compare this with the amount of times Koshi's been scum - oh wait, he hasn't been scum a lot. I pull up the numbers to get the exact percentages. This isn't as intensive as you make it out to be btw - just open up any text editor that shows line numbers and see what your line count is. Then post that number in the thread. The number of scum games is much easier to count manually of course, since there's only 7 of them. On March 01 2016 22:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@SENT what is he hiding? Just the fact that he's scum or something more to this? Referring to qob. I'm still unsure at this point. Half of me just wanted to pressure him into doing something other than him building the Holland Tunnel on me. I'm actually getting a greener read on him now that I have no idea where the hell my partner is (he isn't in the QT either, hasn't been since last month) so I kinda understand where it's coming from. On March 01 2016 23:31 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 21:32 Felkyr wrote:On March 01 2016 02:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 01:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On to less interesting matters - finding out who's town and who isn't. From what we've seen I don't think Koshi/Felkyr are mafia. For the record I didn't see Koshi's post when posting my "1 lurker / 1 active" thing. But usually he has a lot more fun playing town than playing scum, and he doesn't seem serious at all here. let's play a game. First 3 posts of a random other game: On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Goddamn. I sucked up to so many hosts in my career nobody rolls me mafia anymore.
I am just too friendly. On February 04 2016 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I should join a game with BH as host. On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:
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Only if we pretend to be mafia town or mafia? "random" I was actually looking through a list of games where he claimed he was "totes town" and realized that the real culprit was the fact that Koshi isn't scum a lot to begin with. Out of the 45 games in the mafia database (last one being November 2015), he's been scum for 7 of them. And out of the last 19 games in that list, he was scum in 2 of them. So I guess I'm wrong. On March 01 2016 01:48 qob wrote:
Sentinel you can act as if you are not scared, but i can see through your lies.
You can lie to yourself but don't lie to me. Sentinel calls Koshi town for being fun when he's town. He went through a list of 19 games to come to this conclusion, but never actually checked beforehand whether Koshi was town or scum in those games. Only when Marv calls him out he realizes Koshi can also be 'fun' in maffia games but he never bothered to look at those when he was actually making his meta read. Doesn't make sense. On March 01 2016 09:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 01 2016 08:37 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
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why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob? please re-read, i will not repeat myself again Fecal. On March 01 2016 08:35 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 07:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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Suppose I'm scum. Who are the other 2 scum aside from me and FF, and why is everyone else less scummy than me and FF? Why are you attempting to get my attention off of you? I respect my teammates decision if you really want to know, but what is this pathetic attempt to get me to discuss something else besides your scumhood?And LOL, the reason your scummy is because of your response, ^^^^stuff above, and of course, your fake aggression and opening post which was down right embarrassing to see someone play that poorly. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. So if you want to be productive, you actually have to advance the discussion in the thread. So far, you've said nothing new about me, it's not doing anything to convince anyone who isn't convinced, and you're refusing to look for other scum (there's 2 teams in every setup) or justify your scumread(s) by pointing out who isn't. Not clarifying your points for FF doesn't help your case either. Besides that, he's trying to negate Qob's push on him but has done nothing valuable as town, although he's in tread often. His soft-pushing of people seems filter-filling as he never follows it up. Sentinel is only reactive but doesn't try to actually advance the thread himself. The first paragraph. I read the Sentinel post differently. That Sentinel had a certain impression of Koshi's play that he had WITHOUT checking the meta. And then after he checked the meta on my prodding he realised he was wrong. so i don't think this is the strongest point. Alright, before I thought you were a little misguided but now I think you're actually hiding something. i rather think this is the most suspicious thing that Sentinel wrote. Also he agreed with what Koshi wrote about me which was compeltely wrong which I showed which no-one can poke holes in even though people keep attacking the post i made. which is kinda suspicious too. By the way, check this post out. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say that marv is setting himself up so that if and when I flip green (not necessarily today), he looks like he was on my side all along with the soft defense, but still having enough stuff to say "Well it's his own fault we lynched him, he was acting suspicious". Not enough for me to make a judgment on its own, but I'm leaning pretty red on marv. Marv isn't voting you right now though. Since FF isn't here, you have to vote for your team. Who is scum and who is town? I do it as scum all the time. If I fuck up, the wagon on me intensifies, marv puts his vote elsewhere and gets to stay neutral. If I don't fuck up, then the vote goes somewhere that isn't marv. I'm going to take a look at Spikasaur as well but by marv alone that team doesn't look any good. Also going to look at some other teams. Namely kush's team because it's been under my radar for some reason and sandroba because it'll help me see if qob is town after all. So Sentinel, did you look into Spikey? What do you think? I just want to point out that I reread Sentinel's filter and despite his recent activity there are still absolutely no reads. He is 'looking into people' but he hasn't come out with any real attempt to solve the game. He just voted the other wagon for no good reason (isn't that convenient). Despite the pressure he isn't trying. His responses to Kush's questions were also bad. Most of what he is saying is 'I would bus but I don't know who mafia is right now so I don't know who I would bus'. Now, regarding my vote. You're absolutely right. The thing is, I've looked at this game and can't find any conclusive scums at the moment. If I had to say my two reddest reads right now, it would be cow/damdy (mostly due to cow, partially due to inactivity), and Rels/Race which is kind of a stretch because I kinda like the former but not the latter. I'll have to look at Rels at some point. Or maybe I won't if you people kill me. Then I'll fuck off and hope the next game turns out better than this one for me. Now one of those happens to have a wagon on it. More importantly, its main competition which is currently winning is the team that includes me. Since I obviously can't scumhunt when I'm dead, the next best option is to not be dead. So I'm voting for my tenuous scumread because it's better than no scumread at all.
Not only would I be voting for my scumread, but I'd be doing it in the way that least drops me off the collective radar.
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On March 03 2016 11:06 sandroba wrote:
@sentinel who do you think is mafia with team cownadow?
Still have no idea if it's TT or Damdy tbh.
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On March 03 2016 13:01 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 12:54 sandroba wrote:On March 03 2016 12:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
LOL
excellent why are you excited about this? do you agree with what he is saying? Thisi s your paranoia getting you already Sand. They are just suprised that Damdred was infact mafia. Like you clearly were not despite not being sure on me a few hours ago...
Yeah this.
Haven't even read what he's saying or who he is.
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On March 03 2016 13:06 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 13:01 Tictock wrote:On March 03 2016 12:54 sandroba wrote:On March 03 2016 12:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
LOL
excellent why are you excited about this? do you agree with what he is saying? Thisi s your paranoia getting you already Sand. They are just suprised that Damdred was infact mafia. Like you clearly were not despite not being sure on me a few hours ago... OFC I'm paranoid about team anal, because team cow went out of their way not to lynch them and lynch rels. And I said "I'm 99.9% sure TT is telling the truth", I wouldn't say I'm surprised team cow flipped mafia, but I was extatic to get confirmation I still am somewhat good at this game.
Did they not have their vote on us?
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On March 03 2016 13:09 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 13:05 Tumblewood wrote:On March 03 2016 13:03 sandroba wrote:On March 03 2016 13:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Unless you guys have an explanation that I missed really yo, don't waste your time reading team blahvacado. K nvm ignore everything I said because clearly there's no hope of identifying their alignment This is exactly why I picked Blahvacado you know.
Should've been Team Eiffel 65
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That's actually a really good case. I can't offer a better alternative, as much as I'd love to. All I can say is that strategy was ridiculous.
Anyways, I hate to disappoint but I'm not actually red this game.
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On March 03 2016 13:36 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 13:26 sandroba wrote:
Yes, sent and FF are the last mafia. I'm sure of it. You could be right actually, UN is just sitting on the sidelines. Clearly reading the game yet not really doing anything. On the other hand he just pointed me in the direction of an amazing song list. It's anyone's guess.
My only defense is meta. I usually put up a way better defense as scum. I play better as scum in general. I got something to lose.
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My song list is amazing though. Fastest keyboarder in my college.
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Until then, gonna read some filters and go find a scum.
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I agree with the paranoia. I don't think it's scum play. It actually reminds me a lot of yamato's town play.
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I've actually talked to FF in the QT but I'm starting to have second thoughts about sandroba.
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