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On March 01 2016 23:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 23:01 Shapelog wrote:On March 01 2016 22:57 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 22:51 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 22:46 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:On March 01 2016 22:28 qob wrote:On March 01 2016 22:09 Rels wrote: qob why do you think marv is scum ? My partner and my town reads suspect him. I personally havent been focusing on him too much. However after watching him vs. Koshi it was one sided and clear. Why do you partner scumread him ? Why was him vs Koshi one sided and clear ? What Koshi arguments do you think are good ? I will let my partner speak for themself. Koshi absolutely blew him the fuck out, it was hilarious tbh but i dont want to be a dickrider. Koshi made him stumble over himself. There was no one part i thought was good, i was clear to me that Koshi had the upperhand, in a sense. Do you think Koshi is scum Rels? Also where is Bannon? tell me exactly where i stumbled. or i might just policy vote you for talking gibberish. On March 01 2016 19:47 marvellosity wrote:On March 01 2016 08:10 Koshi wrote:On March 01 2016 08:05 Tictock wrote:On March 01 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:On March 01 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote: Ok maybe VE is mafia after all. I'll reconsider. For the record. I still firmly believe he is most likely town. Mafia is still marv. I know you said it's hard to explain, but why is Marv mafia? Kus he said you'd do stuff if you are town? This is how I could explain it, it's not really good explained but that's kinda it: I think marv is mafia because he is hedging. The post I quoted for instance, he knows I am an easy misslynch atm, he knows Rels is pushing me, so when Sentinel says I am town, he just discredits me by saying "I am obvious town when I am town" which is perfect because when I am obvious town he can just decide to ignore me as mafia. And when I am not being obvious town he just planted this little seed in the head of a person who has me as town. Mafia type play. Normally marv uses that sentence in a totally other context. It is just bad here. He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds. Nowhere in marv his filter he has me as mafia. He is just suggesting it very shadowly. Which is very unlike marv. All this is wrong. To the bolded. I am so hedgey when I am town I make posts such as these: On February 06 2015 20:54 marvellosity wrote:![[image loading]](http://www.009.cd2.com/members/how_to/images13/7.jpg) Like, I literally post hedges. Koshi *is* obvious town when he is town. I ended up scumreading him last time we played together because he looked kinda townie but he wasn't "obvious" town. He was mafia. It was a correct heuristic. It will continue to be a correct heuristic. He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds. Bad. I play little games all the time as town. I love little games. I have incredibly fond memories of playing games with Palmar in Rock Band where I kept quoting things from previous games with "town or mafia?". Bet you can't find me doing this as mafia. I can provide examples as town. Koshi should know this. The point, which was obvious, was that Sentinel was making a poor meta read and I was correcting him on it. And Sentinel admitted himself, replying to my post, that it was incorrect. So I made him rescind his incorrect read. How is this bad? Everything Koshi writes here is wrong. *and he should know it is all wrong*. So why is he writing it? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/504019-team-melee-mini-mafia-vi-newbies-and-vets?user=marvellosity&page=2Clearly you were flustered. This is no gibberish, its just facts. You're scum, arent you? Sure, until you realized that Marv for the most part did not do anything rashed. Also I do not think Koshi had the upper hand if he had to call upon divine powers and one liners. Can you tell me why Spike is town? The only thing he did is discredit me together with marv. What is the townie mindset there? You do realize that guy is actively following the thread right? It is obvious mafia focussing on not getting lynched. Wouldn't town at least try to get a freaking scumread? You do realize that when he came into the thread before the last time he was completely 100% neutral towards me, even though I was already scumreading him and marv then. Next time he scumreads me and discredits me. While marv does the same not bothering to read the thread. 5 mins later marv read the thread and already flipped his read and had me as town. While Spike was still happy to call me mafia for dnu what reasons tbh. You got to know this spike got literally 0 reasons to call me mafia except the fact that I called them mafia. And he doesn't even know why that exactly makes me mafia. The reasons why marv called me mafia cannot be why spike called me mafia. He doesn't know the meta on marv and why everything I wrote was "bullshit" (it wasn't) So why is he calling me mafia? Because marv told him to discredit me because that is what mafia needs to do. It is quite obvious this Spike guy is really new to the game and is just doing what marv tells him to do but he does it rather badly because he doesn't understand what he should really do. What Spike has done, Nothing major of the sort. Nor do i think he is town. Just because I talk about Marv. in semi bright lighting, does not mean anything about his partner. If I see something wrong with X, then I will investigate/question it.
Also, you seem paranoid. I do not personally think you are scum (or more so your team.) And I do not believe anyone else is scum reading you based off of what Spike has said. Because guess why? it is not good. The only reason people might be is because you so mind set on them being scum (basically tunneled) that you are ignoring reasoning. You can not find a actually flaw that can not be explain you your behavior is not helping.
I am going to filter dive in a while (college sucks) for your partners request. I tell you what I think about them then in detail.
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On March 01 2016 23:26 Koshi wrote: Maybe I am tunneled. But in no world marv is town. If you think he is town you are aither mafia with TMI or should enter the lottery. Did I say I think he was town? *raises eye*
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On March 01 2016 23:45 Koshi wrote: has marv already said anything about the fefe wagon? I do not beleive so, Let me check. Check: Not until the posts on this page (35)
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On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog. No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better.
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On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog. No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better. i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p Pfffff, I can self meta myself. Is Shapelog Shit posting? If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda? if yes, Mafia if no, Town If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read? if yes, Mafia if no, Town.
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@At Felk. Kush in 1st post was talking about FF
"So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure." -Damdred
"This point is kind of scumslip like. My problem with this is experiential rather than theoretical. I've scumread people who have said stuff like this in the same paragraph as nullreading someone, and they turned out to be town. So I don't think it means he actually has a townread on quob." -Kush
I let my partner explain the rest since he would know more.
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On March 02 2016 01:03 Felkyr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 00:59 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog. No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better. i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p Pfffff, I can self meta myself. Is Shapelog Shit posting? If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda? if yes, Mafia if no, Town If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read? if yes, Mafia if no, Town.  I thought you were working on some reads for me? Is that too town-agenda to fit your meta? I am working on them. I am in a college class and trying to filter, post here, qt, 2nd game takes muti skill.
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Another point of the cow, He had a lot of postings about scum reads and left the thread to revised them due to having to many.
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Copying out of my read list.
On March 01 2016 05:24 TheCow wrote: I do not understand the point of the philosophy being posted in this thread. It seems like filler discussion to me.
Sential is sticking out to me. I am reading the slot as scum at this point.
The current meta-ing occurring looks like a dead-end and I do not understand why it is still being pursued.
How many games has Viscera played?
On March 01 2016 05:40 TheCow wrote: Kush is pinging me red so far. Shape has not done anything of note, conversely.
On March 01 2016 06:13 TheCow wrote: I have too many scum reads. I will reread and reevaluate when I get back. I thought this was townie at 1st, but when I went back, he only had 2 scum reads when this was posted. and there are 2! scum teams. It does not make sense. He did not need to narrow down the list, so why say I got too many scum reads? Than 2 hours later
On March 01 2016 08:06 TheCow wrote: Team Anal Prolapse and Team Fairly Odd Couple are my current pool. He drops me and Kush and now puts Marv/Spike? Without explaining why or how he came to them being scum?
His read progression makes no sense what so ever. Not to mention when you add this new development.
On March 01 2016 08:15 TheCow wrote: sandroba did not understand the point of my post and voted for me. qob feels town to me, and because I know how to read him, I am reading the slot as town.
sandroba himself is scummy for reasons I implied earlier. Now he is adding another team to his scum list after supposedly getting it down to 2. If he cared so much about not having too much scum reads, than why is he scum reading so many people?
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But if FF/UON flip red, then Damdred and the cow are town because why on earth would they as scum bus a team mate in a game like this?
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Well throw sus. like mad via a scum slip instead of busing but you get the point.
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On March 02 2016 01:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 01:26 Shapelog wrote:
He drops me and Kush and now puts Marv/Spike? Without explaining why or how he came to them being scum?
thanks for reminding me :p ##Vote Team Cownadow Opportunistic you are.
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On March 02 2016 04:06 Race Bannon wrote: I am torn. Upon going through his and his mate's filter I have a gut scumread but he's too enjoyable to lynch and continue without. Ah what the hell, it's kush//shape
Also I'm not positive and wouldn't mind staying in the back seat and let Rels handle our end of responsibility, with the amount of meta arguments and all it seems prudent to trust his judgement.
My head hurts, I had a migraine, and took new drugs today. Did you say something about us being scum yet? also @felk, I did had half a list of reads (but they are prob. different now considering 10+ pages) If you want me to post them I can to show that I am not BSing, but I prob. do not stand by them anymore.
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On March 02 2016 04:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 00:59 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog. No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better. i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p Pfffff, I can self meta myself. Is Shapelog Shit posting? If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda? if yes, Mafia if no, Town If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read? if yes, Mafia if no, Town.  Correct me if I'm wrong but in Mafia LXXIII you weren't shitposting, were actually posting walls of text and ended up being town, no? What am I missing here? I had to click the link to see what the fuck this game was. Nutcracker was my 1st gamie ^^ I had 2 WoT there (one was off of a blue track) I think. Vs. my scum game from newbie XIX had like 10. Also nutcracker had a 5 page resection per cycle and on the 4th cycle I had 22 pages. I had to be donated posts due to semi shitposting.
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On March 02 2016 04:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 04:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 00:59 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog. No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better. i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p Pfffff, I can self meta myself. Is Shapelog Shit posting? If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda? if yes, Mafia if no, Town If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read? if yes, Mafia if no, Town.  Correct me if I'm wrong but in Mafia LXXIII you weren't shitposting, were actually posting walls of text and ended up being town, no? What am I missing here? Perhaps you are missing the fact that it was a joke? No I was for real partner. You should be happy that you now have a meta for me.
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On March 02 2016 04:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 04:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 04:28 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 04:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 04:22 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 02 2016 00:59 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:44 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On March 02 2016 00:40 Shapelog wrote:On March 02 2016 00:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: You're welcome for saving you from having to read Shapelog. No you didn't. They still read my name. Try better. i meant giving a read on your alignment, which is impossible :p Pfffff, I can self meta myself. Is Shapelog Shit posting? If yes ->Is Shapelog pushing Town agenda? if yes, Mafia if no, Town If No, is he posting WOT's and being town read? if yes, Mafia if no, Town.  Correct me if I'm wrong but in Mafia LXXIII you weren't shitposting, were actually posting walls of text and ended up being town, no? What am I missing here? Perhaps you are missing the fact that it was a joke? Probably. So why is Shape shitposting so much? Just because he didn't shitpost in 1 towngame doesn't mean he never shitposts as town. Does it? I mean in general. Although that's 100% of games in the database he didn't shitpost as town. I have played in and finished: Nutcracker (town) mediocre shit posted Newbie XIX (scum) Shitposted up to a 30 page filter Devil instead of me (Town) shitposted
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Kush I asked a question the QT. Better answer it before I attack you in thread.
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So damdred soft claimed blue, then posted his role. I did something similar in Devil, but only soft claimed Blue. I refused to give out more info to scum. He kinda did that but failed.
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Shhh I am going to switch votes last min. Because i do not agree with Kush. Shhhhhhh
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I only agreed with voting FF teams in the 1st place for pressure, I wanted to look at them at all angles buttttttt Nooooo. So i gave Kush his pressure vote. And I admit I do find them scumish, but I also finded Rels slightly scummy. I am reading his filter right now to see what i think now.
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