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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 15:23 GMT
#725
On March 02 2016 00:11 Felkyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 21:52 Rels wrote:
On March 01 2016 20:48 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 20:29 Koshi wrote:
This is what happened at the Faerie House.

Spikasaur: OMG marv my darling, this brilliant player named Koshi from the Team Koshi is on to us. O Lord. What shall we do?
marvellosity: Darling don't worry your pretty head. Even though Koshi is a brilliant player, we got to discredit him. Just call him bad. Just type some random stuff. Just try not to scumclaim.
Spikasaur: Ok I will try.
*5 seconds later*
Spikasaur: Woops, I think I scumslipped.
marvellosity: It's ok my darling, I got this covered, I am going to call him mafia.
Spikasaur: But what should I do darling? I have done what you asked and popped in 10 pages to show activity. But this brilliant and extremely talented Koshi always asks me these hard questions though, I don't know how to answer them.
marvellosity: just type random things sweetie, and try to brush off that scumslip like it was nothing. Act dumb. I am going to read the game and call some obvious townies town to try to get them on my good side.


***To be continued***


Speaking with Marv, apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia. I guess this could further that.

Town.
Marv gave this as a reason to townread Koshi later so it's 100% true htey communicated on that.
They have little reason to communicate on marv's reason to townread Koshi if they are scum.


Rels, I'm assume you have other reasons to put Marv/Spike in your town-list but I don't think this should be one of them. I can very easily see Marv saying this to Spike even when they are Mafia. They know each other IRL...

Yeah that might not be super strong actually. But marv's play makes me think he's town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 15:55 GMT
#730
On March 02 2016 00:43 Queenfestor wrote:
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On March 02 2016 00:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now.


So when u talk about early aggresion - might u explain me how u think about the early aggresion of your junior?

Did you read the whole thread ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 16:12 GMT
#741
On March 02 2016 00:59 Queenfestor wrote:
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On March 02 2016 00:55 Rels wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:43 Queenfestor wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now.


So when u talk about early aggresion - might u explain me how u think about the early aggresion of your junior?

Did you read the whole thread ?

I did except posts #540-~600 which i skipped due to the wall of texts while i am being sleeping / work - didnt thought this is going 2 be discussing any further - did i missed sthm?

No idea. It's a super weird attitude to skip posts.
Any reads ? Who is town and who is scum in your mind ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 16:31 GMT
#756
On March 02 2016 01:16 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 01:12 Rels wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:59 Queenfestor wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:55 Rels wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:43 Queenfestor wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now.


So when u talk about early aggresion - might u explain me how u think about the early aggresion of your junior?

Did you read the whole thread ?

I did except posts #540-~600 which i skipped due to the wall of texts while i am being sleeping / work - didnt thought this is going 2 be discussing any further - did i missed sthm?

No idea. It's a super weird attitude to skip posts.
Any reads ? Who is town and who is scum in your mind ?


Why is it a weird attitude? I skipped most of the shitfest between koshi/marv. So not the first thing I wanted to read in the morning.

'cause reading words is how you find scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 16:36 GMT
#763
On March 02 2016 01:34 Koshi wrote:
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On March 02 2016 01:31 Rels wrote:
On March 02 2016 01:16 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 02 2016 01:12 Rels wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:59 Queenfestor wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:55 Rels wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:43 Queenfestor wrote:
On March 02 2016 00:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry guys, you seem to have a lot more energy for this than I do. I thought sentinel and Rels were being a bit aggressive for the first day but I guess that's a good thing in today's mafia. Koshi is posting exactly like I remember. Kush stands out but I can't call it bad just not his norm. I'm not feeling the drive to scum hunt, maybe it's just early in the game or its me being burnt out from mafia, but I promise I'll try. Just maybe not right now.


So when u talk about early aggresion - might u explain me how u think about the early aggresion of your junior?

Did you read the whole thread ?

I did except posts #540-~600 which i skipped due to the wall of texts while i am being sleeping / work - didnt thought this is going 2 be discussing any further - did i missed sthm?

No idea. It's a super weird attitude to skip posts.
Any reads ? Who is town and who is scum in your mind ?


Why is it a weird attitude? I skipped most of the shitfest between koshi/marv. So not the first thing I wanted to read in the morning.

'cause reading words is how you find scum.

nha I skipped the first 15 pages of this game.

Thanks for being a living proof that my theory is correct.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 18:54 GMT
#821
On March 02 2016 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi is town. I am town. kush is town. VE is probably town. sandroba/qob are town.

4 slots left.

On March 01 2016 21:57 Rels wrote:
How what I described town indicative for VE ? Here is a summary of scummy stuff:
- having a stretched meta reason to scumread TT (super slight 'cause it's a early D1 read)
- not re evaluating read when said meta reason is proven wrong
- leaving the thread when attacked
- over explaining how his read made sense so he should not be considered scum ever
- being generally usuless

Are all these things actually town indicative for him ?

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:02 GMT
#823
On March 02 2016 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?

By all means, go ahead. It would be way more productive than doing this silly noncommittal bullshit on me.

Of course the best option would be actually formulating a strong opinion instead of letting others do it for you.

I don't understand your reason for scumreading marv. He has strong opinions; in your case he's more nuanced but it's not a global remark. Someone being not sure about someone else is not scum indicative.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:04 GMT
#825
I agree that TheCow filter is bullshit and Damdred is not super implicated apart from that one smart read, which could be scum indicative.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:15 GMT
#831
I'm OK lynching:

VE (only one read that doesn't evolve with the thread, fixed on proving he is making sense instead of being interested by new events, useless) / bum (useless)

TT (his WOT on sand / qob were super forced) / queen (useless, came into the thread a few hours ago for one random question, I doubt he would have say anything else if I hadn't asked him for his reads)

TheCow (useless, his "I will reevaluate" then dropping team names without explanation is scummy) / Damdred (underwhelming ... I have no rteason to scumread him)

FF (useless, treated qob as town when he's pushing him) / Sentinel (don't really have anything to scumread him. He explained his Koshi meta stuff and is pushing his scumread right now, which is not an easy target)

People are not playing super good since there are at most 2 scum teams in those 4.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:16 GMT
#834
On March 02 2016 04:06 Race Bannon wrote:
I am torn.
Upon going through his and his mate's filter I have a gut scumread but he's too enjoyable to lynch and continue without. Ah what the hell, it's kush//shape

Also I'm not positive and wouldn't mind staying in the back seat and let Rels handle our end of responsibility, with the amount of meta arguments and all it seems prudent to trust his judgement.



You will have to handle shennanies (=
kush is very likely scum by meta
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:16 GMT
#835
town*
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:21 GMT
#837
OK I'm receiving friends so this I won't be active except just before going to sleep.

I want to lynch VE / bum. VE one read makes no sense:
On March 01 2016 05:33 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
VE, meta is worth a lot more if you were actually playing in the game. TT is tryhard scum.
Why are you ignoring the fact that it was in the joke phase?

I take "joke phase" on a player by player basis, and from my experience with him TT never ever jokes in the beginning as town, he always tryhards at the beginning. That's why I ignored it, because for TT from my experience, there's no such thing as a joke phase.

"TT never jokes as town usually but does in thius game, points at him being scum"
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On March 01 2016 05:11 Rels wrote:
So you didn't read this one then.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?user=Tictock

"Look you're wrong he has done that before as town!"
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On March 01 2016 05:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 05:26 Rels wrote:
You're not re evaluating you reasons based on what's happening
You're very probably scum

NOTHING HAS HAPPENED FOR ME TO REEVALUATE! THE ONLY THIN G THAT HAS HAPPENED HAS YOU AND SAND HAVE COME IN HERE AND SHIT ON MY READ, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MY READ TO FUCKING CHANGE! YOU'RE MAKING SHIT UP!

"NO nothing has changed in my read!!!!!!"

Scum.


Upon coming back to the thread he had one scummy defense:
On March 01 2016 21:07 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.

In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.

I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable.

Wow you're so fixed on proving that your read is logical.
Like, your goal as town is to find scum. Your reads evolve as you get new infos. Your read made sense before, then I showed it was a bad reason to make a read on TT. You should have re evaluated there.
I kinda don't care that your read is logical beforehands. I could understand where you were coming from even if it felt stretched, so it was a little scummy maybe. But you not re evaluting, and now getting stuck on "MY READ MADE SENSE GOD DAMMIT" instead of looking for scums prove you're scum.
Show nested quote +
I think my suspicions have been reasonable.

This is the scummiest thing you've said.

His other posts in this series of "coming back" posts:
On March 01 2016 11:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 10:30 Tictock wrote:
On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.

In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.

I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable.


So now that you've had this fight with Rels and seen me posting in a more serious manor. What do you think of my alignment?

I'm willing to hear more. Consider my vote removed in spirit.

On March 01 2016 12:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 12:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 01 2016 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Kush is probably scum if he doesn't hard call my team scum before this day is through.

Why?

He's talking about you hinting at getting me lynched, not realizing that it had little to do with you thinking I'm mafia and everything to do with the sexual pleasure you would derive from such an act.

On March 01 2016 14:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe I should lynch marv for getting sassy-mouthed earlier.

are super useless.

Nothing needs to be said about bum.

I can undersatnd if you scumread someone more than those, but anyone townreading them is beyond my fucking comprehension.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:21 GMT
#838
I guess that answers your question p:
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:25 GMT
#843
On March 02 2016 04:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On March 02 2016 04:21 Rels wrote:
I guess that answers your question p:

That answers my first question only.
Who are you going to vote for?
If thecow and ff are the only viable wagons, which do you think is better?

I'm voting VE.
If VE is not lynched, TT is my preffered wagon.
Between FF is thecow, I don't know. Thecow is more scummy than FF but Damdred is more townie than Sentinel.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 19:26 GMT
#844
AFK now. See you later (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 01 2016 22:42 GMT
#976
Im way too drunk to reead anything so my olast post shouldsay what i think
I trust barron to vote good
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 06 2016 11:10 GMT
#1834
On March 02 2016 04:21 Rels wrote:
OK I'm receiving friends so this I won't be active except just before going to sleep.

I want to lynch VE / bum. VE one read makes no sense:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 05:33 Rels wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
VE, meta is worth a lot more if you were actually playing in the game. TT is tryhard scum.
Why are you ignoring the fact that it was in the joke phase?

I take "joke phase" on a player by player basis, and from my experience with him TT never ever jokes in the beginning as town, he always tryhards at the beginning. That's why I ignored it, because for TT from my experience, there's no such thing as a joke phase.

"TT never jokes as town usually but does in thius game, points at him being scum"
On March 01 2016 05:11 Rels wrote:
So you didn't read this one then.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?user=Tictock

"Look you're wrong he has done that before as town!"
On March 01 2016 05:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 05:26 Rels wrote:
You're not re evaluating you reasons based on what's happening
You're very probably scum

NOTHING HAS HAPPENED FOR ME TO REEVALUATE! THE ONLY THIN G THAT HAS HAPPENED HAS YOU AND SAND HAVE COME IN HERE AND SHIT ON MY READ, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MY READ TO FUCKING CHANGE! YOU'RE MAKING SHIT UP!

"NO nothing has changed in my read!!!!!!"

Scum.


Upon coming back to the thread he had one scummy defense:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 21:07 Rels wrote:
On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.

In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.

I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable.

Wow you're so fixed on proving that your read is logical.
Like, your goal as town is to find scum. Your reads evolve as you get new infos. Your read made sense before, then I showed it was a bad reason to make a read on TT. You should have re evaluated there.
I kinda don't care that your read is logical beforehands. I could understand where you were coming from even if it felt stretched, so it was a little scummy maybe. But you not re evaluting, and now getting stuck on "MY READ MADE SENSE GOD DAMMIT" instead of looking for scums prove you're scum.
I think my suspicions have been reasonable.

This is the scummiest thing you've said.

His other posts in this series of "coming back" posts:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 11:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 10:30 Tictock wrote:
On March 01 2016 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
So my thought process is this, just to clear up any confusion.

In my recent memory, I don't recall Ticktock to have ever played the relaxed jokey beginning. I just recalled him to have very serious posts right from the outset, that's been MY experience with him. So I mentioned being suspicious of him. To check my memory, I went back and checked the games on the TL Mafia Database, because unlike some people in this very game, I can't recall every game every person has been in on command. So I checked the most recent games in his history on the DB. Maybe they're old, and maybe the meta is outdated. Could be, as it's been a while since I've played with Ticktock. All I know is that the database corroborated my memory of Ticktock's towngame. It also a recent mafia game, which admittedly doesn't look much like this game. Others have come to bat saying that his mafia game looks different than this. This is all well and good. But I left my vote because I wanted to hear Ticktock say something more so I could decide if I ultimately DID think he was mafia, as I had originally suspected.

I think it's pretty hilarious that Rels is going off so hard about this. I can see Ticktock being suspicious if he's town, but Rels is just going off, and I think my suspicions have been reasonable.


So now that you've had this fight with Rels and seen me posting in a more serious manor. What do you think of my alignment?

I'm willing to hear more. Consider my vote removed in spirit.

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 12:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 12:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 01 2016 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Kush is probably scum if he doesn't hard call my team scum before this day is through.

Why?

He's talking about you hinting at getting me lynched, not realizing that it had little to do with you thinking I'm mafia and everything to do with the sexual pleasure you would derive from such an act.

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 14:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe I should lynch marv for getting sassy-mouthed earlier.

are super useless.

Nothing needs to be said about bum.

I can undersatnd if you scumread someone more than those, but anyone townreading them is beyond my fucking comprehension.

Yeah let's not kill ve cause he sounds fucking townie. Let's kill fucking Rels cause he s a good scum so he could be scum being super townie and because he's fucking European and not there for deadline. He doesn't care for the lynch too! It's not like he posted all his reads with explanation before leaving ...

On other news I agree with the modkill complaint. Modkill shouldn't care for "what is the most fair way to do them". Damdred should have been modkilled and the game should have continued OR kush shoukd have been modkilled and the game should have transitioned into D3 without another kill. It was super unfair for town and not consistent the way it happened.

Damdred being "modlynched " happened cause he was 99% the lynch. Kush not being "mod night killed" happened cause he was 99% not the scum kill. It's bad reasonning cause modkill shouldn't depend on the game situation.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 06 2016 11:15 GMT
#1835
Town played super badly and deserved to lose.
Scum played super badly and deserved to lose.
Host made a mistake that decided the game.
Overall a pretty bad game. But I liked the setup concept, it was super cool.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 06 2016 11:21 GMT
#1838
On March 06 2016 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 06 2016 20:15 Rels wrote:
Town played super badly and deserved to lose.
Scum played super badly and deserved to lose.
Host made a mistake that decided the game.
Overall a pretty bad game. But I liked the setup concept, it was super cool.

Speak for yourself, i played nearly perfectly.

Still have no idea why you townread ve.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 06 2016 11:54 GMT
#1840
On March 06 2016 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 06 2016 20:21 Rels wrote:
On March 06 2016 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
On March 06 2016 20:15 Rels wrote:
Town played super badly and deserved to lose.
Scum played super badly and deserved to lose.
Host made a mistake that decided the game.
Overall a pretty bad game. But I liked the setup concept, it was super cool.

Speak for yourself, i played nearly perfectly.

Still have no idea why you townread ve.

because he *does* do retarded shit as town

i got cownado right and then realised i made a wrong townread and attacked the townread i thought i got wrong before i died.

sandroba played a perfect day 1 but unfortunately couldn't see through VE on the final day when VE was the only one confident in the state of affairs which was super scummy, which Koshi eventually kinda realised.

Yeah you attacked him n1. OK you can leave yourself out of the bad town statement ^^
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