No, scott31337, you're not under a mountain of suspicion. Most of us admit that we have basically no clue who is mafia.

To be honest, that's probably even worse.

If you could explain your read progression on Breshke and why you ended up voting for GlowingBear instead, that would be nice, though.

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

February 18 2016 00:28 GMT

#982

On February 18 2016 06:42 rsoultin wrote:

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On February 18 2016 06:35 Shapelog wrote:

On February 18 2016 06:31 rsoultin wrote:

On February 18 2016 06:28 Shapelog wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Tumble's Read progession] +

On February 17 2016 11:11 Tumblewood wrote:
@rsoul : I the only people I have any real insight on are Trfel, Eden (town), Tictock, kush (townlean), you, Shapelog (null), Palmar, SL (scum).
The other four have been too absent for my tastes... Breshke has been moderately active, stay tuned for a filter dive.

On February 17 2016 11:15 Tumblewood wrote:
EBWOP: Palmar as a scum lean because I have little confidence in that read.

On February 18 2016 03:42 Tumblewood wrote:
No one's acting definitively scummy, so I'm going to POE this vote.

The 'Do Not Lynch' List
Eden, for putting a lot of effort into finding scum and moving the day along productively.
Trfel, for similar reasons. Also, I stand by that mafia would not have gotten into an argument like that earlier in the game.
Tictock, for making clear and useful points.

The 'Bad Lynch' List
Rsoul, for helping in a trolly manner.
Palmar, for being overconfident and having huge changes of heart.
Kush, but I don't know why.
Breshke, for making clear and insightful points, though sparse.

The 'Wait And See' List
GB, Scott, and The Shining for showing up late.

That leaves us SL and... other SL. I keep seeing things in sick's play that are scummy, but then you all assure me that those are just normal things for him. Sick's defense amounts to "don't lynch me because that's a bad idea / I'm an easy townread."
Shape has been acting similar to his last game as scum. I had the privilege of being in the scum QT with him, and his gameplan was this: play the "too scummy to be scum" card, and spam the thread (especially with votes) to make it harder to follow.
I think both are valid options for a lynch; whoever makes the better case in the next two hours dodges my vote.

On February 18 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote:

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SL, Shape, gB, shining, Scott, and Palmar are all reasonable lynches; I don't see what makes Scott the better option in Trfel 's mind.

On February 18 2016 05:56 Tumblewood wrote:
I can't sleep easy if I see any of the other wagons getting lynched over Palmar. ##vote: Palmar

So he scum leans Palmar, puts him in the bad lynch pile, then calls him a reasonable lynch. And then ends up votes for him.

SO the real question is....Why did Tumble vote Palmar (with a passion) when he put palmar in the bad lynch list?

a good question -_-

Who is your top scum read R-Rated Girl?

between GB/shining right now
their behavior just doesn't line up with how they voted

i think i'm inclined to more or less believe you unless i have a reason to think otherwise

bresh/trfel have been and likely always will be town for me

unless eden's play has greatly changed i don't see him being scum here, either

scott/tumble are kinda up in the air for me (;o; i really don't want tumble to be scum...it would be nice to be right on him) and i'd like them to answer questions

yeah i need to reread tho

Where do you see that disconnect specifically?

Trfel

7015 Posts

February 18 2016 00:33 GMT

#983

Tumblewood, can you please describe your read progression on Palmar?

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 18 2016 00:36 GMT

#984

Rso thinks the question from Shape to Tumble about his read and vote not lining up is good. Tumble is my main scumread. I'm RSos top scum read for something similar but she's ignoring Tumble.

Godreads.

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

February 18 2016 00:37 GMT

#985

Tried to make sense of the game on paper. Only got to half of everyone so far.

Trfel

7015 Posts

February 18 2016 00:40 GMT

#986

ROFL

The Shining, how's that scumread going?

nooniansoong

1538 Posts

February 18 2016 00:51 GMT

#987

Two thoughts. One, I got a kick out of seeing you write about me like that on actual physical paper. Two, you made me seem really scummy.

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 18 2016 09:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Tried to make sense of the game on paper. Only got to half of everyone so far.

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 18 2016 00:57 GMT

#988

That...is outstanding. I wanna see mine

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 18 2016 00:59 GMT

#989

I also would be a lot less suspicious if more of this was original thought vs summary. Like these notes are good and all, but what are the conclusions? Either alignment could do this

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

February 18 2016 01:02 GMT

#990

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 18 2016 01:04 GMT

#991

I'd also still really like Tumble to explain that flop on Palmar.

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

February 18 2016 01:11 GMT

#992

On February 18 2016 05:54 sicklucker wrote:

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im very happy with this plummer lynch the more i think about it. Theres good defeatist meta and if hes a lazy town we teach him a lovely lesson!

Why did SL swap his vote to scott?

Tictock

United States6052 Posts

February 18 2016 01:21 GMT

#993

Ok I promised I was gunna catchup and do shit tonight... but it's been a rough day and I'm beat.

Pushing off doing things till tomorrow!

I might still read if I don't pass out in the next 5 min

Trfel

7015 Posts

February 18 2016 01:30 GMT

#994

Nooniansoong, you said that you were okay with lynching Palmar despite thinking that he is town. Please explain why you were okay with this?

Trfel

7015 Posts

February 18 2016 01:40 GMT

#995

One Sentence Reads

Tictock is town because overall, his play seems involved and has a definite direction, despite a weaker End of Day.
Tumblewood is town because his posting style is much more carefree and conversational than his mafia game, and because he's putting in a lot of effort, as shown by his written notes.
Breshke is town because he didn't kill Palmar, despite Palmar having a strong suspicion of him, and he's been sharing sensible thoughts.
Nooniansoong is maybe mafia because of his lack of caring about the lynch (being willing to lynch Palmar while townreading him), and his GlowingBear read doesn't feel genuine.
The Shining is maybe mafia because he can't possibly think that Tumblewood is mafia after those pictures that Tumblewood posted.
Eden1892 is town because he got angry early on in a really towny way.
Rsoultin is town because she didn't lynch Palmar, despite having plenty of justification to do so, and for a relatively large post count, despite saying she'd be lazy.

Any comments are more than welcome. I'm fairly confident in the town reads, not so confident on the scum reads, largely no opinion on people not on the list.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

February 18 2016 01:47 GMT

#996

Truffle, am I mafia?

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 18 2016 01:54 GMT

#997

Maybe I should just go back to omgusing and bming again because I'm dying a little inside every time I get scum thrown on me for hilariously bad reasons that don't make me scum.

Or maybe I should just pick random posts and make one liners on them and take pics of them. That oughta work, huh?

The Shining

United States2406 Posts

February 18 2016 02:00 GMT

#998

Trfel why are you so confident on a one game meta read on Tumble? And on the subject of meta, why haven't you tried to meta read me when you were in my most recent scum game and a numerous amount of my town games?

nooniansoong

1538 Posts

February 18 2016 02:07 GMT

#999

On February 18 2016 10:30 Trfel wrote:
Nooniansoong, you said that you were okay with lynching Palmar despite thinking that he is town. Please explain why you were okay with this?

I wasn't okay with it exactly. I said I thought he was town, I gave a reason, and I voted for someone else.
Now, I wasn't actively campaigning against his lynch, this is true. That's because of these 4 reasons.
1 my read on him was not super solid.
2 I have a terrible of track record of reading him.
3 my terrible track record was lorded over me in the thread on multiple occasions by scott and palmar himself, and I didn't want to look like an idiot by being vocally wrong about him again. So yes I had a townread on him but I kept it kinda quiet.
4 I do not like Palmar. That's mean but it's honest. So him not being in the game makes it more fun for me.

Trfel

7015 Posts

February 18 2016 02:13 GMT

#1000

GlowingBear, no idea. I really don't like your off-wagon vote, though, but I don't think that's enough reason to scumread you. You actually did feel quite invested in the nooniansoong wagon. I'm still pretty unhappy with my read on you in Outlaw Mafia, though, I'll probably just sheep rsoultin on you if I'm not confident (which I won't be).

The Shining, I did meta read you a bit, but in this case the off-wagon "push" for Tumblewood feels more important.

And I know that my scum reads aren't the best

I'll be pretty happy if one is correct.

The difference between GlowingBear and The Shining is that GlowingBear's push makes some sense, while The Shining's doesn't, GlowingBear seemed to care about it while The Shining didn't, and The Shining had more opportunities to be inspiring while I'm not really sure what he's done this game, other than his Tumblewood suspicion. The only real reason I have to townread The Shining is meta, based on both post length (shorter posts = town) and his anger at being scumread.