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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 19:06 GMT
#1808
On February 26 2016 04:05 Tictock wrote:
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On February 25 2016 19:47 nooniansoong wrote:
Tt I didn't vote shape for a joke. I votted him for voting someone for a joke. Get it?

And what is scummy about pushing him to claim when he's going to get lynched?
Its better to have an outted blue than a lynched blue.


So you think only scum can mistake a joke and take it seriously? You didn't even give him a chance to answer your question, you piled onto the wagon and your vote made Shape the leading wagon.

It wasn't like Shape was a for sure lynch, and several of the votes on him (*cough*Yours*cough*) weren't really backed by anything. If he is blue it should be his choice to claim or to do what Shape was doing and try to step up a little and push his reads, etc.

Telling him he nees to claim, pushing him to do it when he seems like he doesn't want to, and pushing him to claim his specific role. All of that is definitely in line with scum motives more than town motives.

So yea, it's scummy that I see you add pressure to his wagon with a silly vote then pressure a claim out of him. I don't see why town would do that.


I thought it was an obvious joke. That he was taking it seriously I read as scummy. Plus the fact that I was overly paranoid about him. yes, it was a bad vote.

I'm beginning to think you aren't scum anymore. Help me figure this game out.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 19:08 GMT
#1809
I think at least one of trfel, rsoul are scum.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 19:12 GMT
#1810
trfel tumble?
im questioning everything.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 19:13 GMT
#1811
tt talk to me if you're here. how do you feel about this?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 19:21 GMT
#1815
yeah let's no lynch today.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 19:23 GMT
#1816
On February 26 2016 04:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Also, why one of Trfel and rsoul? Those are the two people who are IMO least likely to be scum.

That's precisely why I'm looking to them.
When you can't figure a game out, it's usually because someone that no one is suspecting is mafia.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 19:27 GMT
#1818
On February 26 2016 04:25 Tictock wrote:
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On February 26 2016 04:01 nooniansoong wrote:
TT, can you hint at your most recent reason to townrread breshke that you didn't want to talk about?


I really shouldn't.

In an ongoing effort to be fair and partial though I intend to look at Bre's filter today.

Also Rsouls's.

Like I'm actually rethinking my read on you Kush based on your approach today, you are going about MyLo in a rather towny way. Trfel is also putting in work to try and figure out alignments.

Tumble looks like obv scum the way he is doing today (but I'm still the only one who thinks so apparnetly).

So I'm left wondering if my read on Rsoul was bad or if my read on Bre was off.

Right now though I would say Tumble is my top lynch, after no-lynching.


dunno about trfel. he made a big post about how you were scum and voted you today without even looking at other people like breshke.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 19:32 GMT
#1821
On February 26 2016 04:29 Tictock wrote:
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On February 25 2016 22:22 nooniansoong wrote:
I would expect a town TT to think, "wait a minute. My read on breshke is not based on very strong evidence. I need to reasses it since kush is looking pretty townie and everyone else is townreading him."



Lol...

Expect I don't give a shit that everyone town reads you, everyone could be wrong.

Do you have strong evidence that Bre is scum?

It would be better if you can tell me why you scumread him, not accuse my townread of being bad. You haven't backed-up all your townreads with meticulous detail have you? Why should I?

I looked at an old scumgame of yours and you had no problem having fluid reads it seems like.
Your stubborness is actually pretty townie.
Fuck no I don't have strong evidence that Bre is scum. All I have is a lack of evidence that he is town.

The point against shape he made in the beginning of the game that you liked--I did not really like it.

So about breshke, I dunno. He is AFK in other places as well. ahem... Really, I dunno.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 19:34 GMT
#1822
tumble woudl you be down for a no lynch?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 19:59 GMT
#1832
@TT
why did you want to lynch me over tumble today? doesn't mesh with how hard you've been pushign tumble all game long and been on the fence about me.

@trfel
looking at bresh should be your top priority imo.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 20:01 GMT
#1834
@TT,
Why make this long as post about GB when he's obviously going to be lynched anyway? Like why waste the time if his lynch is already an inevitability?

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 21 2016 05:13 Tictock wrote:
Not going to take a lot of time looking at GB's past games, I'm not a strong believer in meta but maybe it will be relieving to take a look.

Ok apparently I forgot GB was in the Nutcraker game, starting with that one kus it's pretty recent and I was in that game (albeit as scum).
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm seeing a lot of similarities in GB's play between the 2 games. One thing that jumps out is that GB made a very similar push on Kush in both games.
On December 14 2015 22:58 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm voting Kush because he deserves it

On December 16 2015 03:49 GlowingBear wrote:
But to be fair I prefer kush to die today. For the reasons of I don't want to relive Avogadro's Number mini Mafia

On December 16 2015 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Wow the vote count is horrendous

Townies, if we keep the vote count this way, Madia can easy manipulate it

If we are so torn apart we should vote someone who is at least a queation mark

I'm driving. I suggest you all move to kush


Overall I think things look pretty similar to this game, but GB did seem more interested in making reads in Nutcracker than in this game.

When GB was getting lynched though he wasn't anywhere as emotional as he has been here.
On December 16 2015 07:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh I'm dying

On December 16 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
Koshi, I'm not Mafia. You're again doing the same mistake you did last game if you're town.

And it's a shame you can't give me more time to prove myself even when I repeatedly said I would've been busy these days.



He was also town in NSM XVIII which I think is his most recent town game.
+ Show Spoiler +
This is a large filter and I wasn't in the game so I'm just skimming and then checking the end of his filter to how he reacted to being lynched.

In general I notice a bit more of a carefree attitude from GB, he's giving thoughts and reads pretty freely and just seems kinda friendly when interacting with people.

His reaction to being lynched in this game is markedly different than the others, biggest thing relevant to this game now... he's not very emotional even when being lynched.
On January 07 2016 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, lynch me today
When I flip town lynch my scum reads

They are Giygas/mderg/?

Also remember what I said on NM before

I'm getting ready to work and I'll be AFK during the entire day.

I hope you guys do the right thing. If you don't, do NOT ignore my reads.

On January 07 2016 00:47 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2016 00:28 Kmatt wrote:
While I can't pin the vote switch yesterday as being inherently scummy, the fact that GiygaS skirted by for so long with so little contribution to the thread is troubling. I've only got about 20 minutes before I head out for the rest of this day phase (curse you Wednesday morning shifts) so if anyone has anything to run by me I need to hear it and now. If my math is right another mislynch today and we're six kinds of screwed. Not that I doubt my reads but I want to be as sure as possible since I can't respond to any shenanigans.


Argh this post isn't good.

Guys lynch me, I can't deal with this thing of not being able to decide if Kmatt is town or Mafia

On January 07 2016 01:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm late for work, I gotta go

I'm voting Giygas.

I'm town.

Do the right thing

On January 07 2016 02:23 GlowingBear wrote:
The only reason I'm not flipping out is because this is a newbie game lol


Last town game I'm gunna look at is Haunted Mansion, note that he was rolled town that game even if the mechanics of the game caused him to become mafia-aligned after death.
+ Show Spoiler +
Just for reference, I was in this game as town with town!GB and got super tunneled on him thinking he was the final member of the mafia team after we lynched mafia D2 and D3. Even after I died I left a last will that told people to lynch GB. This was some of his reactions that last day before he got mislynched and town lost the game.
On December 09 2015 07:20 GlowingBear wrote:
I won't repeat the reasons myself for why I'm town, if you wish to disregard my defense and lynch me GG and farewell, I don't have the patience to fight my lynch.

On December 09 2015 13:21 GlowingBear wrote:
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On December 09 2015 13:15 sicklucker wrote:
like screw you koshi if we went h my plan to lynch gb and oo we probably had auto =[. how dare we let this terrible mafia player have a chance


Also, I'm not Mafia. Care to read what I write now that I am actually defending myself?

On December 10 2015 10:09 GlowingBear wrote:
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On December 10 2015 07:53 Koshi wrote:
I actually wanted to vote chrom for pressure but TT/marv take rrsponsability.

I will auto vote gb tomorrow


Ok

GG

On December 10 2015 21:45 GlowingBear wrote:
I think I've brought enough points on OO and Chrome. I certainly am suspicious of Chrom especially because he is still alive at LYLO and didn't require a lynch on him before anyone else after two days of mislynches.

In the other hand, I'd rather lose to mafia Chrome than lose to Mafia ObviousOne. So I'm voting him.


On December 11 2015 23:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2015 13:51 Chromatically wrote:
RIP game?

I guess everything has kind of already been said though, people just have to make the decision.

Are you set on GB Koshi?


You're mafia

On December 12 2015 06:53 GlowingBear wrote:
I would try to survive but I'm working and I can't

GG Wp scum


Quite similar to the NSM game before this, again though very little emotional reaction to being lynched.


And then the contrast check with a recent scum!GB game from Outlaw.
+ Show Spoiler +
This is another game where GB has over 10pgs of filter, so I'm just focusing on the last page or two where he is getting lynched.
On January 05 2016 00:26 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll be reading the thread later and I'll give some inputs.

On January 05 2016 06:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, why am I being votes?

On January 05 2016 07:25 GlowingBear wrote:
The only reason you guys have to vote me is my recent inactivity. Other than that, why am I scum?

On January 05 2016 07:38 GlowingBear wrote:
OWS could be scum


There isn't any emotion but the similarities in how GB is asking why he is being scumread is rather uncanny to this game, also the first quote here is a lot like some of GB's posts D1 here.




This Game: (Today in particular)

First lets talk about that Fake claim I've been simmering on the back burner.
+ Show Spoiler [Relevant Posts] +
On February 19 2016 08:05 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm the vigi and I shot SL

On February 19 2016 08:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2016 08:16 The Shining wrote:
##Vote: Glowingbear


Why are you voting confirmed town?

On February 19 2016 08:39 GlowingBear wrote:
MY GOD SHINING YOU CAN'T BE THAT STUPID

On February 19 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:
##vote: The Shining


So while I will note that GB did not ACTUALLY vote for TS, this doesn't make a lot of sense. I mean that as either alignment it makes very little sense.

If this is a fakeclaim from town!GB then why does he flip out and vote(fakevote?) Shining? He knows he's fakeclaiming and a CC is almost for sure going to be the real Vig, so either GB doesn't think Shining is a vig or he's flailing hard.

If this is scum!GB why does he even bother to claim? Getting the real vig to claim means nothing for scum and Shape has already claimed his role. If he does claim, why backoff so fast? Like it was clear that Breshke and I were instantly more suspect of The Shining than GB so a scum!GB would have kept his claim and gone for the 1v1 right?

Bah this is why I wanted to ignore this, kus it legit just doesn't make sense as either alignment. I guess I can almost believe GB was going to move to eat a bullet, especially kus if he was scum he would have known that SL was not the Vig shot.

Now we have GB's more recent burst of activity and his anger over being scumread for his lackluster play.

Overall I see that easily coming from either alignment, the anger does seem fake though as I think GB understands that being lynched is part of the game ans can self-evaluate his own play enough to understand why he is being scumread here.

His reads list wasn't terrible though.
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On February 21 2016 02:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I've already gave my reads, the strongest read I had once was Eden being town and sicklucker and Kush being Mafia.

I think Truffle is townie although his push on me is weird
I think Tictock is townie for the way he is engaging the game.
Shapelog is town.
Shining is town.
I don't know about Breshke, he sounds townish but he doesn't look very engaged to the thread. Sometimes he comes, comment things and disappears.
I thought Kush was Mafia but I'm not sure anymore after reading his filter. He seems very engaged in finding scum especially on how he faces Tictock, so he might be town after all.
I think Tumblewood could be Mafia out of PoE. Not really strong reasons against him because nothing stands out from his filter but his images, that can be easily done to get towncred. He has done nothing with those "lots of information" after he posted them, and some of them are distorted interpretation of what people say in thread.
I think Rsoultin is Mafia because she can read me well and her flip on me doesn't make sense and is very opportunistic considering she is following thread sentiment.
I have no idea about scott but I also don't understand his scum read on me which also feels very opportunistic considering I'm his counter wagon and he hasn't commented a single post from my filter


Honestly the only problem I have with this post was that GB wasn't just freely sharing these reads, it was like he churned them out upon request.



Conclusions:

Fuck if I know, but GB has a pretty good chance of flipping red here, probably goon or shadow, or w/e.

I only had the one scum game to look at so idk if he does bouts of fake emotion as scum, but there was a clear similarity in how GB is asking "Why am I scum" both in Outlaw and here, whereas in his town games he is more focused on his reads or is trying to convince people he is town.

Maybe GB has just been playing this game with the idea of being too scummy to be scum and then decides to put in the effort for a few hours before EoD to try and wiggle the wagon off him. Seems like a pretty shit play as scum though... but I suppose it's even worse as town...

Sigh, I swear GB if you are town here I will highly consider doing the unspeakable things I almost typed here.

##Vote: GlowingBear

nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 25 2016 20:02 GMT
#1835
On February 26 2016 05:01 Trfel wrote:
Glad to know what you think my priorities should be

My top priority right now is catching up in my classes. You know, because I've been sick and unable to go to class. I think I found one scum and have presented reasons, and I'm more than willing to discuss this read with anyone (including them). We're only allowed one lynch per day.

I'll look at Breshke eventually, but on my time, not yours.


i mean in terms of who you are looking at in the game. Not over real life. Don't get snippy with me.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 26 2016 12:24 GMT
#1884
And I feel that tt tumble is more likely than bresh tumble
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 26 2016 12:55 GMT
#1885
Today I'm going to look at tumble more.

On the one hand bresh is afk and somewhat of a wild card, on the other hand nothing in his filter looks town.

He's got mechanics discussion which is nai. And his one case on shape doesn't make sense.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 26 2016 21:25 GMT
#1898
it was funny how i gave him hope at the end lol.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 26 2016 21:33 GMT
#1899
On February 27 2016 04:57 rsoultin wrote:
pues, ojalá tt is scum and town is just being lazy today @.@


IM NOT BEING LAZY IM BUSY. STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO.
-me pretending to be trfel
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 27 2016 01:49 GMT
#1902
the last scum is breshke with a slight possibility of tumblewood
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 27 2016 03:56 GMT
#1904
On February 27 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote:
This is the least active EoD I've ever seen

Well breshke is afk
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 27 2016 14:31 GMT
#1907
On February 27 2016 23:26 rsoultin wrote:
@.@

tumble: least active EoD (complaint) <- wasn't here
noon: breshke afk (excuse) <- also wasn't here

-twitches-

at least truffle was open about having to leave

-throws shoes at everyone-

nooooon

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On February 26 2016 21:55 nooniansoong wrote:
Today I'm going to look at tumble more.

On the one hand bresh is afk and somewhat of a wild card, on the other hand nothing in his filter looks town.

He's got mechanics discussion which is nai. And his one case on shape doesn't make sense.


^ whatever happened to this?


Half didn't have time, half decided it wasn't necessary.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 27 2016 14:33 GMT
#1908
I had a really busy day at work.
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