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lol. Those are gold. Note that he posted the same video this game after palmar flipped. 
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On February 15 2016 05:07 boxerfred wrote:
bla bla whoop di doop boring game.
yeah kinda.
I just wish I could figure out who the last scummer is... so we could get it over with -.-
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But yeah nobody cc'ing is a good point in Chez's favour.
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Dude that makes no sense. If scum hasnt got a vig who shot the third person N1?
The canon has only 1 shot and only works against blues...
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And if that shot was the worst town vig shot in the history of ever we'd still have 4 blues...
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Plus the town vig not claiming also doesn't make very much sense.
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That is currently the most probable scenario yes.
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Yeah, not really surprised here.
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Asked MD a bunch of questions earlier, would be great if he would answer those.
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chez already did provide a fulllist of checks...
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On February 15 2016 20:03 boxerfred wrote:
Okay. Where.
On February 13 2016 08:33 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 08:31 disformation wrote:On February 13 2016 08:28 Chezinu wrote:On February 13 2016 08:27 disformation wrote:
Problem: I am like NM I don't like meta.
Doubly so if it is self meta. So let's say there is a Finn and that Finn is me. Do you think there could be a framer? Uh. GF AND Framer?! Huh. Not sure tbh. Seems a bit too heavy. Would rather expect a few wanderer/Miller if town has both finn and rey. The Brown Force be like disform and boxer be the same alignments.. It was late... but it was tolds... my psychometry is rather noobish.
On February 13 2016 08:47 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 08:44 disformation wrote:
Yeah, which night did you get rb'ed chez? I NIGHT YOU SAID YOU WOULD PROTECT ME!!! THE NIGHT I CHALLENGED KYLO REN TO FIGHT ME!!! THE NIGHT I CHALLENGED THE STRONGMAN!!!
3 actions + results. checks make sense for chez.
You are aware that Finn is a parity cop, not a normal cop, right?
On February 02 2016 23:35 Half the Sky wrote:Finn![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Xw2sCb1.png?1) A reformed Stormtrooper before joining forces with the resistance, you have a keen sense of who is on whose side, for the most part. You submit alignment checks for each night. Each night you target someone, and you're told if the alignment of your target is the same or different as your previous successful check. Your N1 check doesn't return anything, but is necessary for your N2 check to work. You can't check yourself. If roleblocked, your previous check is your last active check.
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On February 13 2016 09:35 Koshi wrote:I would give you a tip on who the last mafia is because [REDACTED] soz lads. But the good news is I made it to D4. ##Vote: Koshi
Also: probably wifom but I think MD is the most likely candidate to provoke such a reaction from his teammate. xD
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On February 15 2016 15:42 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 08:14 Chezinu wrote:
6 darthfoley
7 disformation - Koshi attacked him
8 LightningStrike
12 MoosyDoosy
13 Koshi - afked sucm??!??! just like Palmar and VA... the AFK mafia... AFK WARS!!!
14 boxerfred - Too emotional?
16 nooniansoong
That means we got:
6 darthfoley
8 LightningStrike
12 MoosyDoosy
16 nooniansoong
Oks.. so who be the more generals of these guys.
Well if you said I am green for being attacked by Koshi, you should say noon is green for the same reason, as I outlined here:
On February 13 2016 01:32 disformation wrote:on noonShow nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 22:45 Rels wrote:On February 04 2016 19:35 nooniansoong wrote:On February 04 2016 19:31 Koshi wrote:
##vote Kush
Best lynch by far. I'm not a bad lynch Could scum post that ? It's soooooooo scummy that I'm kinda thinking it's town indicative. Like, kush does nothing for 10 hours; comes back with this post; then GTFO. Scum are generally trying to be more careful with their posts. Kush plays bold as mafia. This post makes him more likely mafia. Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 02:12 Koshi wrote:On February 05 2016 02:08 nooniansoong wrote:On February 04 2016 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 22:45 Rels wrote:On February 04 2016 19:35 nooniansoong wrote:On February 04 2016 19:31 Koshi wrote:
##vote Kush
Best lynch by far. I'm not a bad lynch Could scum post that ? It's soooooooo scummy that I'm kinda thinking it's town indicative. Like, kush does nothing for 10 hours; comes back with this post; then GTFO. Scum are generally trying to be more careful with their posts. Kush plays bold as mafia. This post makes him more likely mafia. not sure it makes him more likely mafia, but i definitely don't think it's townpoints either agree. my shitty attitude this game has nothing to do with my alignment. Anyway I don't think I play bold as scum. In my last scumgame I opened with a shitcase on vayne or something. Usually I'll give some effort to look townie day 1 before I completely stop giving a fuck by day 2. Pretty sure this is a lie. You also claimed in the thread you didn't know mafia could frame themselves as mafia framer, while arguing mafia probably framed town, while town had a redcheck on a townie. + Not doing anything is your scum meta while you multiple times said in previous games that you enjoy playing town and that you cba to ever play mafia. And now you are not enjoying the game and you don't want to play till D3. = You are mafia. Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 02:20 Koshi wrote:On February 05 2016 02:19 marvellosity wrote:
i'm pretty okay with a kush lynch at the moment. might even vote him to see how it goes Thank you for being pro town. Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 07:10 Koshi wrote:
Just read the game Kush and give reads.
JUST DO IT Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:
I am having too much work at work, which never happens but it is insane atm, I blame Kush and will lynch him out of spite. Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 00:08 Koshi wrote:On February 05 2016 23:35 nooniansoong wrote:
@boxer, yeah my defense was pretty scummy. I'm definitely in the running for number 1 plynch. I think it's between me, moosey, and onegu.
Onegu is sick so that's a decent excuse.
Moosey did some weird stuff involving town reads. That's something at least.
I scumread zyrre, but so did everyone else.
So yeah probably Onegu is the best plynch despite his believable excuse.
Kill with all the fires in the world. Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 00:20 Koshi wrote:
People got to understand that Kush has been playing serious as town, and has been enjoying doing so. This game he is reading the game, following it pretty closely, but he isn't doing his thing, which is make small observations on who is town/mafia. Instead of quoting posts and telling how mafia he is, he can just as easily quote people and tell them how mafia they are.
Last game he was mafia and tried to copy this style but failed and we lynched him. Endgame he said that he hated playing scum and that we should never lynch him if he ever tries in a game. WHICH INDICATES HE WANTS TO TRY IN FUTURE TOWN GAMES AND NOT TRY IN SCUMGAMES.
This game he is not trying. Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 00:24 Koshi wrote:On February 06 2016 00:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Where is the case on palmar?
I read his filter and he looks town to me. He made a good point about boxer. 2 pages before that quote from Rels you took about lynchbait. This is why Kush didn't want to answer my fucking question about what he read btw. He knows I can trap him. Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 00:27 Koshi wrote:On February 06 2016 00:27 disformation wrote:On February 05 2016 20:07 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2016 20:04 justanothertownie wrote:On February 05 2016 20:01 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2016 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Ah, misunderstood your post Koshi. Carry on.
Would have to check the meta part of NMs Palmar case but regardless I still agree with the conclusion. Maybe we should just try to lynch that lazy jackass today. Very tempting. ##unvote
##Vote Palmar*holds out hand* You have no idea how satisfying this is for me :D just to be clear: (apparently i like to write this this game when i vote for someone) i voted Palmar and then flicked through his filter. Tonally i don't see much that feels off in his filter. But he actually has quite a few posts and they haven't led anywhere. If Palmar is being lazy town I'd expect less posts. It's a bad post/decisively doing things ratio for him. in short: poking with a stick, might well keep poking right up to the end if i don't get my nuts off by then Hmm... must have missed this. Kinda like this explanation. Fits with my own experiences with palmar in dark tournament and PYP and thus is easier to relay to then a meta read by someone who does not like meta reads. Need to do some thinking about who I really want to lynch today. Why would you not lynch Kush? Give me a good reason. Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 00:46 Koshi wrote:On February 06 2016 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can also agree with kush and policy moosydoosy for excessive emoticon use AKA the rsoultin law VA bestest buddy. Please vote Kush. This is lazy town Palmar. Kill him D3 if he is alive and still trash. Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 03:43 Koshi wrote:
Everything Kush does screams mafia to me.
Now he is just here showing activity so the next batch of votes don't hit him. Why would he show this much activity in a game he doesn't care supposedly?? He could have just played normal and it would never be an issue.
This guy even played scum like this before. Like... I know it for sure, just not which game. That is 1 on 1 meta.
Let me get some quotes. Show nested quote +On February 07 2016 03:17 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2016 03:15 boxerfred wrote:
So, here's my situation: I'm gonna be the D2/D3 lynch.
Basically, if Palmar flips scum, I'm fucked since I said he's town. If he flips town, I'm fucked since "HOW COULD YOU KNOW THAT BOXERFRED HOW COULD YOU BE SO SURE".
Here are my mistakes for post-game: letting myself rage hard at people like Moosy, Chez and nooniansong and their styles of posting. If I consider to play some more mafia games, I should learn to deal with that.
I think the vig shot is still better on nooniansong by the way. Ok. I'll shoot Kush. Best target by far. Show nested quote +On February 07 2016 05:03 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2016 04:54 Onegu wrote:On February 07 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Some part of me hopes palmar is town. If only because if he is scum I played a perfect day1 just to throw it all away at the very last second.
But I seriously wonder if a vigshot isn't better placed on Onegu, Moosy or some other unreadable guy who will make us waste a lynch on him regardless of his alignment anyways. You want me to shoot Onegu? I can do that. With Pleasure. <3 Fine with this, I am trying to catch up and also trying to pack for my trip that leaves next week. It's ok. I decided to shoot Kush.
This makes noon pretty damn unlikely to be scum imo.
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Eh. Wouldn't say 100% confirmed, but there being not other claims/CC it is pretty likely that Chez is the parity cop.
We are also not 100% confirmed, because there is a possibility of one us of being:
On February 02 2016 23:35 Half the Sky wrote:Scavengers ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6nFIICT.jpg?1) On Jakku, you trade for scrap metal and other valuables that might be of use to you in the future, although you struggle to gain the trust of your customers. You are not aware. You return mafia-aligned checks or equivalent.
But yeah. The game could be really simple and chez is the cop, neither of us is a miller/scavenger and it is flat out MD.
Maaaaaybe it is LS.
But I would say it is like 80% MD and 20% LS, if chez is cop and neither of us miller/scavenger.
Not sure if there even is a miller/scavenger in play, but with a parity cop and a tracker only a GF to mislead those seems not enough. I am pretty sure there should be at least a wanderer, but I am not sure if there is a wanderer + a miller.
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In this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker
m13
town:
unaware miller
unaware wanderer
1 shot medic
parity cop
tracker
5 VT
scum:
RB
GF
Vanilla
There was also some sort of gimmick mechanic with presents and stuff, that gave out diff. abilities.
But besides the presents and the strong arm from this game, the setup looks very similar. So I am going to assume that we have both a wanderer and a miller.
The wanderer doesn't matter anymore.
boxer can't be the miller from my POV. You know since my PM says town.
But boxer, or whoever Chez checks tonight (if he doesn't get shot) might.
So I am a bit paranoid right now.
On the other hand boxer should be town.
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On February 15 2016 23:11 boxerfred wrote:One tinfoil thing though: nooniansong/kush had a really bad D1. I also scumread him I think but dropped it later, sheeping marv (? if I remember correctly). Koshi and VayneAuthority, both having rolled scum, were pushing kush (based on disformation's quotes from above at least). boxerfreddisformationChezinudarthfoley MoosyDoosy nooniansoong LightningStrike Those are the 7 players left in the game. This night, we have a kill which will not be prevented. 5 1 - ML, Kill 3 1 - ML, Kill 1 1 - Scum wins. We may mislynch once. Chezinu is going to be the nightkill, no way he'll get to surive another night. Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 08:05 Half the Sky wrote:Vote Count - Day 1 Zyrre (8): darthfoley, nooniansoong, Chezinu, boxerfred, marvellosity, Damdred, Koshi, justanothertownie, Palmar Palmar (7): marvellosity, justanothertownie, VayneAuthority, NocturneMage, Rels, disformation, Zyrre, ritoky boxerfred, Damdred justanothertownie (1): Palmar, Onegu VayneAuthority (1):MoosyDoosy nooniansoong (0): Koshi, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Rels, boxerfredNocturneMage (0), disformation disformationritoky (0): boxerfred, Chezinu,Onegu (0):, nooniansoongDisformation (0): Chezinu, ChezinuMoosyDoosy (0): nooniansoongNot Voting (0): At this time, Zyrre is slated to be lynched.Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted. darthfoley and nooniansong both voted Zyrre, the townie. That would mean we'd have had 3/4 scum on the town wagon. Or, one scum being completely outside of all wagons in MoosyDoosy, who wasted his vote on VayneAuthority. Having dived MD's filter, I am actually not too sure if he's indeed the last scum. Although: Show nested quote +On February 10 2016 08:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:On February 10 2016 08:23 boxerfred wrote:On February 10 2016 08:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
So was this the strongman? I'm guessing scum used their vigilante N1 then. okay Rels can you get mad at MD now and also scum read him I would actually rather be one of the mislynches as I in no way wish to be in lylo. I also have very little commitment for the game as I signed up to troll in the first place. xdddd Unfortunately, shit hit the fan very quickly with Damdred dying and NM going after me. If this is true, I hope that the hosts ask for a severe punishment post game. If this is not true, MD should be scum for that statement. Right?
darthfoley had a very organic read progression D1 and I am not sure a scummer would want to lead a new wagon in this place. Why not just try and push noon some more?
noon had some better posts after D1 and got attacked by Koshi super hard.
Why do you think MD might be town after reading his filter?
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On February 15 2016 23:17 boxerfred wrote:
Basically if one of us was unaware miller and the other one was scum then we wouldn't be confirmed, right?
If chez is not lying and one of us is miller the other one is conf. scum... or also a miller. xD
On February 16 2016 00:13 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 09:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Chez is probably lying. There's a pretty large logical fallacy in his claim as I already stated. xP But if we have 2 mislynches we're in a good spot anyway. does anyone know what moosy is talking about here?
nope. asked him the same. hasn't answered.
actually asked him a bunch of questions he didn't answer so far.
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Should I cease to be around, remember to try and get MD to explain/answer these:
On February 14 2016 09:42 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2016 09:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Chez is probably lying. There's a pretty large logical fallacy in his claim as I already stated. xP But if we have 2 mislynches we're in a good spot anyway. Show nested quote +On February 11 2016 11:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I also actually kind of think Chezinu is fake claiming for a specific reason but meh. He likes playing games so I like him. Yeah, you stated so, but you never explained.
On February 15 2016 01:15 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2016 08:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:On February 10 2016 08:20 Rels wrote:
Going to sleep. See you tomorrow. Kinda grumpy at those flips. I actually think we are in good spot. Vayne/Koshi then boxer is probably last tbh. Show nested quote +On February 11 2016 11:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
fuck, i forgot boxerfred was in the game lol. are we townreading him or scumreading him? Care to explain what happened between those posts? Why are you so interested in the thread consent? What is your current read on boxerfred? Also while having some town / scum reads you have never pushed anyone this game...
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