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Koshi Edition
on darthfoley
On February 05 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
darth could very well be mafia because he is holding back. I haven't seen any decent post from him so far while I am certain he is capable to make them.
On February 05 2016 02:02 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 01:59 darthfoley wrote:
@Rels, and a tiny bit of Koshi shade
I think you're reading too much into a few cheeky posts at the beginning of the game. Nothing was really going on by that point, so I didn't feel the need to be super serious. I'm just not understanding why you aren't holding others to this similar standard of scum indicativeness; Zyrre, who made the "woo i'm town" post hasn't posted since and only NM seems to notice. He's also EU time which makes it even more sus imo. Not sure why other people can post shit memes and make jokes, but when I say "roger Gold leader" in a Star Wars themed game early D1, you scum read me for it. I literally said "i am here guyzzz"... like why would I ever be so literal in my phrasing if I were mafia?
This whole poke on me seems a little overzealous to me. I understand probing, but this is pointless. When I say that I'll be back in some hours, but still make a post, I simply don't have the time to make in depth posts or filter dive, but I have enough time (~5 minutes) to defend myself from rather toothless accusations.
@Koshi I appreciate your compliment. I hope I will continue to impress later, when I have time to actually analyze interactions in a meaningful way. Put me in, coach. Make sure you deliver padawan
On February 05 2016 02:14 Koshi wrote:
Also darthfoley might be buddying me because that defense was actually really bad.
on noon
On February 04 2016 19:31 Koshi wrote:
##vote Kush
Best lynch by far.
On February 04 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 22:45 Rels wrote:On February 04 2016 19:35 nooniansoong wrote:On February 04 2016 19:31 Koshi wrote:
##vote Kush
Best lynch by far. I'm not a bad lynch Could scum post that ? It's soooooooo scummy that I'm kinda thinking it's town indicative. Like, kush does nothing for 10 hours; comes back with this post; then GTFO. Scum are generally trying to be more careful with their posts. Kush plays bold as mafia. This post makes him more likely mafia.
On February 05 2016 02:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 02:08 nooniansoong wrote:On February 04 2016 22:59 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote:On February 04 2016 22:45 Rels wrote:On February 04 2016 19:35 nooniansoong wrote:On February 04 2016 19:31 Koshi wrote:
##vote Kush
Best lynch by far. I'm not a bad lynch Could scum post that ? It's soooooooo scummy that I'm kinda thinking it's town indicative. Like, kush does nothing for 10 hours; comes back with this post; then GTFO. Scum are generally trying to be more careful with their posts. Kush plays bold as mafia. This post makes him more likely mafia. not sure it makes him more likely mafia, but i definitely don't think it's townpoints either agree. my shitty attitude this game has nothing to do with my alignment. Anyway I don't think I play bold as scum. In my last scumgame I opened with a shitcase on vayne or something. Usually I'll give some effort to look townie day 1 before I completely stop giving a fuck by day 2. Pretty sure this is a lie. You also claimed in the thread you didn't know mafia could frame themselves as mafia framer, while arguing mafia probably framed town, while town had a redcheck on a townie. + Not doing anything is your scum meta while you multiple times said in previous games that you enjoy playing town and that you cba to ever play mafia. And now you are not enjoying the game and you don't want to play till D3. = You are mafia.
On February 05 2016 02:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 02:19 marvellosity wrote:
i'm pretty okay with a kush lynch at the moment. might even vote him to see how it goes Thank you for being pro town.
On February 05 2016 07:10 Koshi wrote:
Just read the game Kush and give reads.
JUST DO IT
On February 05 2016 20:57 Koshi wrote:
Are you reading the thread Kush?
On February 05 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote:
I am having too much work at work, which never happens but it is insane atm, I blame Kush and will lynch him out of spite.
On February 06 2016 00:08 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 23:35 nooniansoong wrote:
@boxer, yeah my defense was pretty scummy. I'm definitely in the running for number 1 plynch. I think it's between me, moosey, and onegu.
Onegu is sick so that's a decent excuse.
Moosey did some weird stuff involving town reads. That's something at least.
I scumread zyrre, but so did everyone else.
So yeah probably Onegu is the best plynch despite his believable excuse.
Kill with all the fires in the world.
On February 06 2016 00:20 Koshi wrote:
People got to understand that Kush has been playing serious as town, and has been enjoying doing so. This game he is reading the game, following it pretty closely, but he isn't doing his thing, which is make small observations on who is town/mafia. Instead of quoting posts and telling how mafia he is, he can just as easily quote people and tell them how mafia they are.
Last game he was mafia and tried to copy this style but failed and we lynched him. Endgame he said that he hated playing scum and that we should never lynch him if he ever tries in a game. WHICH INDICATES HE WANTS TO TRY IN FUTURE TOWN GAMES AND NOT TRY IN SCUMGAMES.
This game he is not trying.
On February 06 2016 00:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 00:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Where is the case on palmar?
I read his filter and he looks town to me. He made a good point about boxer. 2 pages before that quote from Rels you took about lynchbait. This is why Kush didn't want to answer my fucking question about what he read btw. He knows I can trap him.
On February 06 2016 00:25 Koshi wrote:
Lynch Kush. Lynch mafia.
On February 06 2016 00:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 00:27 disformation wrote:On February 05 2016 20:07 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2016 20:04 justanothertownie wrote:On February 05 2016 20:01 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2016 18:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Ah, misunderstood your post Koshi. Carry on.
Would have to check the meta part of NMs Palmar case but regardless I still agree with the conclusion. Maybe we should just try to lynch that lazy jackass today. Very tempting. ##unvote
##Vote Palmar*holds out hand* You have no idea how satisfying this is for me :D just to be clear: (apparently i like to write this this game when i vote for someone) i voted Palmar and then flicked through his filter. Tonally i don't see much that feels off in his filter. But he actually has quite a few posts and they haven't led anywhere. If Palmar is being lazy town I'd expect less posts. It's a bad post/decisively doing things ratio for him. in short: poking with a stick, might well keep poking right up to the end if i don't get my nuts off by then Hmm... must have missed this. Kinda like this explanation. Fits with my own experiences with palmar in dark tournament and PYP and thus is easier to relay to then a meta read by someone who does not like meta reads. Need to do some thinking about who I really want to lynch today. Why would you not lynch Kush? Give me a good reason.
On February 06 2016 00:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can also agree with kush and policy moosydoosy for excessive emoticon use AKA the rsoultin law VA bestest buddy. Please vote Kush. This is lazy town Palmar. Kill him D3 if he is alive and still trash.
On February 06 2016 03:43 Koshi wrote:
Everything Kush does screams mafia to me.
Now he is just here showing activity so the next batch of votes don't hit him. Why would he show this much activity in a game he doesn't care supposedly?? He could have just played normal and it would never be an issue.
This guy even played scum like this before. Like... I know it for sure, just not which game. That is 1 on 1 meta.
Let me get some quotes.
On February 07 2016 03:17 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2016 03:15 boxerfred wrote:
So, here's my situation: I'm gonna be the D2/D3 lynch.
Basically, if Palmar flips scum, I'm fucked since I said he's town. If he flips town, I'm fucked since "HOW COULD YOU KNOW THAT BOXERFRED HOW COULD YOU BE SO SURE".
Here are my mistakes for post-game: letting myself rage hard at people like Moosy, Chez and nooniansong and their styles of posting. If I consider to play some more mafia games, I should learn to deal with that.
I think the vig shot is still better on nooniansong by the way. Ok. I'll shoot Kush. Best target by far.
On February 07 2016 05:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2016 04:54 Onegu wrote:On February 07 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Some part of me hopes palmar is town. If only because if he is scum I played a perfect day1 just to throw it all away at the very last second.
But I seriously wonder if a vigshot isn't better placed on Onegu, Moosy or some other unreadable guy who will make us waste a lynch on him regardless of his alignment anyways. You want me to shoot Onegu? I can do that. With Pleasure. <3 Fine with this, I am trying to catch up and also trying to pack for my trip that leaves next week. It's ok. I decided to shoot Kush.
on onegu:
On February 07 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Some part of me hopes palmar is town. If only because if he is scum I played a perfect day1 just to throw it all away at the very last second.
But I seriously wonder if a vigshot isn't better placed on Onegu, Moosy or some other unreadable guy who will make us waste a lynch on him regardless of his alignment anyways. You want me to shoot Onegu? I can do that. With Pleasure.
boxerfred:
On February 04 2016 19:32 Koshi wrote:
boxerfred case had a really good sentence in it. I ll look it up.
On February 04 2016 20:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:27 ritoky wrote:
it's alright dude, you can tunnel me all day 1, then when i get shot night 1 you'll realize you're wrong, then day 2 everyone will lynch you because you've been so wrong and talked about literal nothing else in your filter and have no leg to stand on in defense of yourself. bf is pretty town bro.
On February 05 2016 22:59 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 22:54 boxerfred wrote:On February 05 2016 22:53 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2016 22:51 justanothertownie wrote:On February 05 2016 22:49 boxerfred wrote:
stopping on page 42 since chez and md's shit makes me want to puke. Don't want to play this game now. A little over the top, don't you think? especially from a player who occasionally does less than nothing as town himself....... oh, same goes for scum, check my last scum game. I had a sweet case on you. Remember? It had to do with you faking anger while making a case on me.
On February 06 2016 04:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 04:05 boxerfred wrote:
also i reviewed that va/nm thing and I come to the conclusion that my original thought (one of them being mafia) is bullshit. there's no indicator for that and I obviously followed disformation who had this thought first. funny enough, he had it from ritoky who's originally a scumread of mine so wow I should read more details. This post looks bad. But w.e
chez:
On February 07 2016 03:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2016 02:32 NocturneMage wrote:On February 07 2016 02:30 Koshi wrote:On February 07 2016 02:28 NocturneMage wrote:On February 07 2016 00:55 Koshi wrote:
Kush/Palmar/Chez/x How are you getting a read on Chez either way? feels Any particular post? Just felt like he was pushing agenda when I read his posts, they seemed to be strategically and not random Chez.
bonus:
On February 04 2016 20:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 20:41 Palmar wrote:On February 04 2016 20:39 Koshi wrote:
The only thing impressive about that game was the town. There weren't enough lynches in the game to kill all mafia. As soon as superbia had to lynch 1 townie he fell through and get massively scumread between the easiest misslynches in the world.
It isn't hard to look townie when you can actually lynch mafia EVERY FUCKING DAY for 5 days straight. koshi is VA scum? I wouldn't lynch him atm. Not even close.
On February 04 2016 20:51 Koshi wrote:
Ugh... Palmar is almost certainly not mafia here. I have a pretty good tell for him when he is mafia. It's not this.
On February 07 2016 00:55 Koshi wrote:
Kush/Palmar/Chez/x
I think this shows that he tried hard to ML noon D1, making noon unlikely to be scum.
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And yes before anyone asks: I am 99% sure Koshi flips scum. So I am going ahead and analyse his action like the flip already happened.
And no I don't 100% know that noon is town, but in a world where Koshi is scum, I think he tried to ML noon.
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With the rest of these interactions I am not sure if it is holding options for MLs open or distancing. Could be both.
Interestingly there are like 0 reads on Rels. In any of the scummers filters.
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BTW where is El Chezidente with his checks? -.-
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On February 13 2016 03:34 darthfoley wrote:
I know I haven't been super active this game but i've been pretty consistent with my reads on Koshi/VA since D1. I did get Zyrre wrong, but it was an informed decision and not a counter wagon thing. I think it's also quite unlikely that I as mafia would've started the counter wagon on Zyrre, considering that the other mafia (Koshi, VA + 1) seemed quite resigned to letting Palmar die until the Zyrre wagon started.
I have some time today, but initially reading your analysis disformation, I agree with your conclusion that Kush is unlikely to be mafia considering how hard Koshi was pushing it. There's no reason his attempt at a counter wagon to Palmar (godfather) would be another mafia (goon or hux?)
Yeah, your D1 push on Zyrre seems pretty town.
Well, there could be scenarios in which scum could try to sacrifice like a goon over a PR, but I think it is way more likely that Koshi tried to get a ML going.
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VA Edition
On February 04 2016 12:15 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2016 12:12 ritoky wrote:
re darth: something about his reads seem off. too much explanation considering lack of content, stronger opinion on some1 like koshi or va than some1 like disfo, random zyrre ping but no credit to disfo or damdred for noticing same thing hes basing everything off of recent previous games, I dont see whats so strange about it
On February 06 2016 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can also agree with kush and policy moosydoosy for excessive emoticon use AKA the rsoultin law
On February 06 2016 01:42 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 01:27 Zyrre wrote:On February 06 2016 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
also @ kush/marv anyone non retarded here -
What do you make of this random NM/VA = 1 scum thing thats developed and we have to shoot/lynch us or w/e?
stupidest thing ive ever read in my life, scummy or morons? bf even said he though noonian was the most likely mafia, and even with that he wanted to lynch and shoot. On February 05 2016 23:15 boxerfred wrote:
So. I'd say we lynch nooniansong. He's the "most likely to be mafia" player of all in my eyes. Chez is not worth a vig shot (yet), I'd rather use the vig shot to kill NM or Vayne. I'd prefer to lynch NM and shoot Vayne or the other way around.
After that he hasnt said anything about anyone other than NM or VA being scum, only about which one of them we should choose. He started with saying he agreed with others logic as to why it HAD to be one of them, and when pushed in his last post he said literally only "gut". So starting to think bf looks scummy. I will warn you that BF is a trap player. I don't know what to make of him yet. On paper it makes zero sense and looks scummy but surely he would realize that right? Now when we look at the motivation for why he would want to post this, all I could think of is kush being his mafia buddy. He wants you to know that he does support the lynch of kush but thats the extent of it. so if you believe in a kush/bf team then go for it
On February 06 2016 04:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
A Palmar/kush/BF/?? team is actually sorta believable If im going to join in the pre-flip reads. But I am definitely not shenanny'ing onto kush if those are the options
Hrrrrmmmm... VA has not much to go on.
Interesting thing is that he places noon and BF on his scum team, but wouldn't want to shennanie onto kush? That whole association read is pretty strange.
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Dunno most of VA/Palmar's interactions were with the ppl that are now dead. A bit on darth/bf/noon/me but not really much. Barely a mention of MD/Chez/Onegu/Rels. -.-
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Palmar Edition
On February 04 2016 20:07 Palmar wrote:
Also bf sort of doesn't really sound like mafia.
I find it weird that he would go after the entirety of ritoky's post, it's a massive stretch, but I guess there's not really much that has happened in the game, so maybe stretches are the best he's got. He's at least actually trying to do something.
I like that he actually is keeping the pressure on ritoky despite some pushback, this last post about ritoky just rehashing the information sounds like genuinely believes that he has something there.
On February 04 2016 22:58 Palmar wrote:
the kush plays bold thing is accurate.
in outlaw the fact that he was a constant scumread of so many people despite him being wishy-washy, unsure and sort of meek compared to normal should've been at least an indicator there might be something up.
On February 05 2016 06:50 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 06:46 Onegu wrote:On February 05 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:
yo Chez, Onegu. I will push for your lynch if you're still useless at deadline.
BUT RELS THIS IS UNFAIR ??? LOOK AT THAT GUY OVER THERE BEING USELESS TOO
Shut up. This also applies to other useless people (Kush, Moosy, Zyrre). Happy ? Hey rels keep trying to policy lynch me I hear it works wonders. it's not a terrible idea, you have a knack for rolling scum
Lot of Palmar and Koshi interaction. Also marv. Not that much on the rest.
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Not a straight opinion on BF from these guys, but I think that is more likely to mean that they wanted to keep their options open with him.
Since VA/Koshi/Palmar all had a fair bit of interaction the last scummer was probably someone with very little thread presence so they couldn't interact with him. Leading again to MD, Onegu or Chez.
Really hope the night actions will give us some clarity on that.
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On February 13 2016 04:26 Rels wrote:
I don't have the time to play properly right now, it seems pretty cool though. 2 questions:
- who is the most likely scum after that ?
- what was their management of you ?
Will read carefully if I'm still alive tomorrow.
Unfortunately still MD vs Chez vs LS.
Really depends on whether Chez can come up with checks/explantion for the Kylp thing or gets verified by getting shot.
Haven't really really looked at their interactions with me cause I am conf. town in my mind. xD
From the top of my head:
- Palmar had a bit of interaction with me early D1 asking me to give reads on everyone without any null reads.
- Koshi had a post that had a kinda annoyed sounding vibe to it when I did mention the PM about the strongarm shot D1.
- VA was talking to me a bit about NM and called my VCA bad cause it pointed to him being scum.
hmm... maybe can look again later if you want.
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LS less likely than MD or Chez imo.
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TBH should also recheck for interactions with you Rels, cause them having like none feels weird.
But I think considering this tinfoil is not going anywhere unless they shoot me b4 you.
And in that event I am not around for the tinfoil anyway.
There is also still a rather low chance that is could be boxer.
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On February 13 2016 06:10 boxerfred wrote:
Just one thing that makes me town If koshi flips scum: his "bf is pretty town bro." This is a tmi call. "Hes town, dont you see it, its so obvious to everyone. "
Hm. True. Was not that sure about this association since he later distances himself from taht a bit.
Dunno. Everything ends up pointing at MD/Chez/LS and that somehwo makes me really worried I/We missed something.
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On February 13 2016 07:23 Rels wrote:
My potential scum list go Moosy => BF => LS. Ideal plan is lynch Chez to verify claim, then if game not over lynch someone with the help for Chez's checks. Don't have time to discuss right now though )= hope I'm alive tomorrow, should have some time tomorrow night.
Chez if you're cop I hope you post your checks before deadline in case you're killed.
You mean:
Koshi => Moosy => BF => LS
but yeah.
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On February 13 2016 07:26 boxerfred wrote:
Also - if you are serious with lynching me before LS, you're bad. Nothing more to say. Please stick to the plan so I can laugh at you post game.
Are you implying that you know that MD will not flip scum? Oo
On February 13 2016 07:27 Rels wrote:
Koshi is scum.
Chez hardclaimed his role, filter him to see. Disfo you agree on that ?
Well there is no "Yes I am the cop". But he breadcrumbed all over and was like this gem:
On February 11 2016 08:26 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 09:57 Chezinu wrote:
Ok, guys I have a confession to make... I may have graduated from the Academy...
I have defected. But you guys can trust me. My dearest friend is, I believe, a Jedi in the making. Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 17:19 Chezinu wrote:
Some call it brown magic.
In this world, it may be better known as the brown force. That's right. I feel the force of brown within me. Rey, I am your brother from another mother and I'm here to protect you.
No Strong Man can stop this! Kylo, we have one thing in common. Our lives are Fin. OUR LIVES ARE FIN!!!
Thing is. He is either blue or red imo. xD
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On February 13 2016 07:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Also dis did you say you got a idea who his checks were?
I should be kinda obv if you look through his filter. Would prefer for him to say it himself though, so I can double check his story... maybe I just post what I think his checks are b4 deadline?
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okily dokily. 
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At least I think they are.
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On February 13 2016 07:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Wait didn't VA claim he rb'd Marv N1?
Yes.
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