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On February 08 2016 02:35 boxerfred wrote: so we're all clean with a Palmar lynch now? Unless he dumps the most majestic town rainbow into the thread tomorrow, yes. aaaand TBH: since he did that as scum in Outlaw. Come into the thread the evening b4 he was lynched and doing a massive effort in diving filters, that is. We should still lynch him. -.- | ||
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Also: On February 06 2016 07:59 Palmar wrote: i thought i was safe, sorry gg "Sry, guys I thought it was safe for me to do jack today." Sounds more like an apology to his scum mates. But let us see what he brings tomorrow. TBH I kinda just want him to flip. Worrying about all those tinfoils is exhausting, since I am not even sure if I need to tinfoil (can be as easy as Palmar/Onegu/+1/+1). | ||
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On February 08 2016 03:20 NocturneMage wrote: Wasn't random. Friday morning, I read Palmar's filter this game and same with Koshi's before I read other games. And the former especially in light of his performance in PYP and what I recall of Outlaw. That's why I tried to read more of his. Even at his most laziest there was Dark Tournament, which was a contrast to the games I read where he had either more solid town performances or where he wasn't accurate, more performances where he was invested or opinionated if that makes any sense. Additionally, I had zero interaction with Palmar, and the limited I had with Koshi wasn't very good or didn't leave me a good impression of him. I also had concerns about Koshi's lack of followup with ritoky and his reaction to me was just really meh. Also as for marv, when I originally read his filter I liked the pokes he made on Palmar and VA. Re: post-lynch, him falling in the same category where he switches to Zyrre last minute doesn't make him scum, esp when he looked at both players - JAT did the same thing. Hmpf. I should probably stop being so paranoid. Nah, paranoid is good. Okay, looked at Palmar's DT filter. Way better than here. Not sure if I buy that interaction thing. Like you seem like a way more logical-finding-contradictions-in-filters type of player. How is koshi switching his votes different from jat and marv switching votes? | ||
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On February 08 2016 03:29 marvellosity wrote: I'm saving my energy for potentially a grand ding dong with palmar Who would you lynch if Palmar was modkilled? I didn't find many reads in yo filter. | ||
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On February 08 2016 03:36 NocturneMage wrote: Investment in respective wagons, which I'm pretty sure Rels touched on in his case. General voting analysis rule - the more investment someone has in a given wagon, the more likely they are to be town. I don't understand this. All three switched. So they aren't very invested by default. | ||
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On February 08 2016 03:37 disformation wrote: I don't understand this. All three switched. So they aren't very invested by default. Ugh nevermind. He was TRing Palmar the whole damn day, yet only votes 18mins b4 deadline? On the other hand too scummy to be scummy. | ||
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On February 08 2016 03:37 NocturneMage wrote: disformation - You should be aware by now how invested JAT/marv were in the Palmar wagons. BY CONTRAST, Koshi was not as invested in the Zyrre wagon (amount of time/rationale). Am I making sense here? I'm going to use the first part of Rels' case to show you what I mean. I don't think marv was invested at all. | ||
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On February 08 2016 03:40 NocturneMage wrote: at all????? Are you not understanding what I mean by time and effort? He likes your case on palmar (without ever having a read on you). Flicks through palmar's filter. writes a 3 liner on palmar. writes a slightly better explanation on palmar b4 he leaves. Comes back switches to zyrre (who granted he also had a scumread on though I find that one dubious). So no I am not really seeing effort and time here. | ||
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On February 08 2016 03:47 Palmar wrote: Friendly reminder that I am not mafia Cool. Can you tell us who are not your team mates?  | ||
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Taking applications as to why I should sheep you, when I can start sheeping you and what your plans are to solve this game by day 3. Thank you guys. | ||
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On February 08 2016 03:50 marvellosity wrote: It's like you're trying to paint me in the worst possible light, it's kinda annoying. You find my read on Zyrre dubious? Why? I explained exactly why Jat (town lest we forget) totally agreed with the difference between the two Zyrre filters. Tldr: you're annoying Yeah, sry currently extremely paranoid and conf. biasing over everyone. Should step back and do something else until palmar gets back. Though I think you and NM are probably unlikely scum if palmar flips red, Adn I am giving him a higher % to be red. | ||
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On February 08 2016 04:11 NocturneMage wrote: This next post is mainly for Rels and disformation regarding Moosy Doosy - Day 1 - read pages 39 through 41 Night 1/Day 2 Can either of you - or anyone else if you wish - comment on these reads by MoosyDoosy here? Something feels off but I can't put my finger on it. His criteria for reading me is completely wrong, whether it's contrived is 50/50. I've only played with him twice. The thing with my questioning on day 1 if you read through page 42 I think is he eventually bailed when I talked to him as to why he was scumreading ritoky. It felt weird and "it's Day 1" doesn't cut it. Just answer the question and then leave. Rels especially his read on you, and especially how you scumread me for not being logical day 1 versus him townreading me day 1 for being convoluted. It's just weird. Also I told him there's no way his read circles back to ritoky as mafia. Also his following Day 2 was telling me to spit out fire - I'm assuming reads - but looking through his filter I think if anyone needs to spit out reads, I think it's him, quite frankly. He has marv/DF as town d1 and concerns with Rels. That's it. hmmm... well as I said earlier you are imo a very logical and reason based player to me. So him saying that using big wordy logical arguments, but giving him a town feel with those things, is not very odd for me. Especially if he has not thaaat much experience with you. Sounds more like a "i am not fan of those big complicated wordy things, but your tone is town, so imma TR you". Like does he necessarily need to be able to understand your points to give your a TR for your tone? Seems something MD would do. His soul read claim on Rels is pretty odd especially since he seems a bit waffly on Rels. Would like for Rels to comment on this too. Otherwise he imo has a scum read on: kush, Palmar and boxer and TR on: NM, marv and darthfoley. Yeah, most of them don't come with much reasoning, but those are more reads than other ppl (e.g. darth, VA, Onegu, marv, chez, palmar, ...) have. Super not sure on MD's alignment though. Can see him play this way as either alignment. Leaning town for at least having a bunch of reads out... on the other hand MD somewhat trying seems to be more scum indicative usually... btw: Point is, disformation is not entirely scummy, and neither is ritoky for pushing in in that direction. And regardless of whom is implicated, me, Palmar, etc, I can't see how that winds back up at ritoky. that was why I was asking about whether you scum read me or not. Cause "not entirely" implies that I am somewhat scummy at the very least.  | ||
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On February 08 2016 04:28 darthfoley wrote: Meh why would mafia!Palmar play such a weak mafia game? He seems like a player who could be quite directive with the Town conversation as mafia D1. He's basically asking to get lynched. It just seems too lynch-baity, even if we kinda have to do it. Why would town!Palmar play such a weak town game? He nearly wrecked PYP and got like 7/8 scummers that game. | ||
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aren't all 3 of them players that can lead/drive town into a decent direction? | ||
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On February 08 2016 06:27 darthfoley wrote: Especially if Palmar is town Problem with that: I see not much reason for thinking Palmar is town besides a lot of crazy tinfoil theories. Like I liked a very early interaction I had with him, but looking at his filter this is pretty much it. | ||
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On February 08 2016 06:41 nooniansoong wrote: anytime you question marv about anything you are horrendous, on drugs, or scum. Can I be all three of these things? Especially the drug part seems appealing right now | ||
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