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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 23:30 GMT
#1610
Also now I am a bit paniky. Cause the VCA clearly indicates that scum kinda shot ppl that were willing to vote palmar. but that is a huge wifom argument.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 23:35 GMT
#1618
okay ppl. probably overthinking this.
can always tinfoil after the palmar flip.

votings palmar.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 23:38 GMT
#1622
Hm. maybe scum was thinking damdy was blue, cuz he was kinda underperforming?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 23:52 GMT
#1629
On February 07 2016 08:49 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2016 08:30 disformation wrote:
Also now I am a bit paniky. Cause the VCA clearly indicates that scum kinda shot ppl that were willing to vote palmar. but that is a huge wifom argument.


JAT and Damdred voted for Palmar. If that's the case, why does ritoky die? Bluehunting good townies x2?

On February 07 2016 08:18 disformation wrote:
Zyrre (8): darthfoley, nooniansoong, Chezinu, boxerfred, marvellosity, Damdred, Koshi, justanothertownie, Palmar
Palmar (7): marvellosity, justanothertownie, VayneAuthority, NocturneMage, Rels, disformation, Zyrre, ritoky, boxerfred, Damdred
justanothertownie (1): Palmar, Onegu
VayneAuthority (1):MoosyDoosy
nooniansoong (0): Koshi, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Rels, boxerfred
NocturneMage (0),disformation disformation
ritoky (0): boxerfred, Chezinu,
Onegu (0):, nooniansoong
Disformation (0): Chezinu,Chezinu
MoosyDoosy (0): nooniansoong

all three were voting palmar. jat unvoted at the last second, but was clear that palmar would need to die.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 00:16 GMT
#1633
On February 07 2016 09:09 darthfoley wrote:
I remember reading that someone has the best read on Palmar. I think it was either marv or JAT. I can't find the quote though

IIRC and it's marv, wouldn't the marv kill make more sense from mafia!Palmar, especially because marv ended up voting Zyrre EoD because it was the higher % play?

Yeah, I think that was marv.

Might not have shot him for the WIFOM? Hmmmm...
Scum might have accepted losing Palmar and tried to shoot ppl that were more dangerous for their other mates?

Really getting into wifom land here though.

Will try to work on a few tinfoils for both cases (town!Palmar and scum!Palmar) tomorrow, if the day is as dead as I fear it to be.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 00:36 GMT
#1638
On February 07 2016 09:27 NocturneMage wrote:
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On February 07 2016 09:16 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2016 09:09 darthfoley wrote:
I remember reading that someone has the best read on Palmar. I think it was either marv or JAT. I can't find the quote though

IIRC and it's marv, wouldn't the marv kill make more sense from mafia!Palmar, especially because marv ended up voting Zyrre EoD because it was the higher % play?

Yeah, I think that was marv.

Might not have shot him for the WIFOM? Hmmmm...
Scum might have accepted losing Palmar and tried to shoot ppl that were more dangerous for their other mates?

Really getting into wifom land here though.

Will try to work on a few tinfoils for both cases (town!Palmar and scum!Palmar) tomorrow, if the day is as dead as I fear it to be.


meh....it could be wifom (what other choice do they have), it could be not, it could be a medic dodge, who knows.

GGs JAT/ritoky/Damdred.

My vote is on Palmar, and is staying on Palmar all cycle.

Good night.

maybe it is a lemon-tree?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 00:37 GMT
#1639
Yeah, I wanted damdy to carry me again. That worked great in my past town games.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 00:52 GMT
#1650
On February 07 2016 09:41 NocturneMage wrote:
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On February 07 2016 09:36 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2016 09:27 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 07 2016 09:16 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2016 09:09 darthfoley wrote:
I remember reading that someone has the best read on Palmar. I think it was either marv or JAT. I can't find the quote though

IIRC and it's marv, wouldn't the marv kill make more sense from mafia!Palmar, especially because marv ended up voting Zyrre EoD because it was the higher % play?

Yeah, I think that was marv.

Might not have shot him for the WIFOM? Hmmmm...
Scum might have accepted losing Palmar and tried to shoot ppl that were more dangerous for their other mates?

Really getting into wifom land here though.

Will try to work on a few tinfoils for both cases (town!Palmar and scum!Palmar) tomorrow, if the day is as dead as I fear it to be.


meh....it could be wifom (what other choice do they have), it could be not, it could be a medic dodge, who knows.

GGs JAT/ritoky/Damdred.

My vote is on Palmar, and is staying on Palmar all cycle.

Good night.

maybe it is a lemon-tree?


I don't know what you mean by this.

+ Show Spoiler +
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On February 07 2016 09:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
disfo, give me a beat.

+ Show Spoiler +
throwing in a complete rap battle to the beat. rejoice in my generosity.



actually scum didn't kill the two most vocal ppl on the palmar train. NM and Marv. Oh wifom, oh wifom.

Well. Here is the thing: we have between 0-1 scums.
Who are the other 3-4?
Filter reading time tomorrow evening.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 01:45 GMT
#1653
On February 07 2016 10:39 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote Count - Day 2


Palmar (6): marvellosity, disformation, Koshi, VayneAuthority, NocturneMage, MoosyDoosy,

Not voted (7): Palmar, Rels, darthfoley, Onegu, Chezinu, boxerfred, nooniansoong

At this time, Palmar is slated to be lynched.
Day 2 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

random thought of the night: ppl voting for palmar: town
4 of the non voters: scum

cause nearly all the no voters were also like the ppl not voting palmar d1.
lets see if they put in some time to find alt wagons or join in voting palmar for whatever reasons.

not 100% serious.
not 100% not serious.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 13:19 GMT
#1663
On February 07 2016 21:11 boxerfred wrote:
The kills revolved around people that are imho capable of leading town. Damdred is a great player, jat and ritoky have some reputation too. Now the thing is that all of them were voting palmar, too. I am trying to figure out why they died. Given that at least the Damdred kill was based on mafia being afraid of him, id say that marv scum. He should have the highest town reputation in here. That only counts under the premise that no vig shot was involved .it a vig shot was involved ,it was a bad shot. I dont think vig wouldever shoote outside of palmar or nooniansong so i think we have had three scum shots. Given that marv feels off to me, i can see him being scum. We desperately needed a noon or palmar flip imho to be able to analyze d1 votes. So question is do we lynch palmar now for the late information or Do we guess ob another scum member? Chez, md and onegu remain unreadable to me so i feel like the game remains volatile. We need to look into ritokys reads, especoally in regard to disfomration. Ritokys initial case on hin should be reciewed again given that he flipped town. Also jats reads gain importance now.

Not sure why marv would be afraid of damdred?
Why do we desperately need a noon flip? Not sure how much info that gives us.
What case on me? He just said my post was terrible but not AI. He later had a TR on me. Also are you trying to suggest that I am scum? Dunno you seems somewhat obsessive about me and that is irritating.

ritoky reads:
On February 05 2016 15:06 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 08:06 ritoky wrote:
my town is something like: ritoky, rels, jat, disfo, darth
maybe town is like: damdred, marv, koshi, kush
fuck you is: boxerfred

and i think there's probably a mafia between VA and NM.


i literally picked my town list


damdred reads:
On February 06 2016 07:44 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I'm thinking the mafia team is like palmar onegu and ry with someone else.

And I'm thinking onegu is coming back last minute to hammer the least wanted team mate.

And I think I could be wrong on palmar to some degree my gut says mafia though. But zyrre has been pretty scummy today.

On February 06 2016 00:03 Damdred wrote:
So, I've read the thread and its all over the place voting wise and that's sorta meh at this junction so we need to get it down to a couple targets and ho from there.

If be ok sort of going for palmar, onegu, zyree and chez is an outliner.

I don't think nm/va/kush are worth a lynch today or moosey as I think moose is town.

NM post on palmar isn't bad at all though hard to meta but Marv says lynch palmar. So maybe I should put my eggs with Marv and tide and die


some jat reads?:
On February 07 2016 03:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote:
On February 07 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Some part of me hopes palmar is town. If only because if he is scum I played a perfect day1 just to throw it all away at the very last second.

But I seriously wonder if a vigshot isn't better placed on Onegu, Moosy or some other unreadable guy who will make us waste a lynch on him regardless of his alignment anyways.

You want me to shoot Onegu? I can do that. With Pleasure.

No idea why he is still in the game.

On February 07 2016 03:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2016 03:34 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Some part of me hopes palmar is town. If only because if he is scum I played a perfect day1 just to throw it all away at the very last second.

But I seriously wonder if a vigshot isn't better placed on Onegu, Moosy or some other unreadable guy who will make us waste a lynch on him regardless of his alignment anyways.

No no no

We need the information. You must know this bbz

What do we learn? I mean you are all acting like he is confirmed mafia anyways.

So... for some reason jat didn't really write out his reads... did I miss something here?


Common theme: all 3 didn't like Onegu at all.
Unfortunately I have no time right now cause RL stuff. But I will be back later this evening and read some filters.
We need to look at more stuff. As I said earlier there are still 3-4 scums out there and if we don't get much discussion going this day it is bad for town. mkay.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 13:20 GMT
#1664
On February 07 2016 22:17 Chezinu wrote:
Marv
boxer
disformation

Is that your town list or your scum list?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 14:20 GMT
#1668
On February 07 2016 22:38 nooniansoong wrote:
Good news. I can feel myself beginning to care a little.

Would be more impressed if you like had some reads to share or something.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 15:49 GMT
#1679
so. sent out 3 applications. time for a break.
Looking at some filters.
@ NocturneMage: are your reads still:
town: marv, ritoky, boxerfred, darthfoley, disformation
scum: VA, Koshi and Palmar
?
You have somewhat implied a scum lean on Rels and Me. Is that a legit scum read or only mild concern?
Who would you lynch if Palmar was modkilled for some reason.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 15:59 GMT
#1682
Looking through VA's filter.
I like that he was able to step back and reevaluate NM. I also like a few other posts and his tone. Didn't really like the suggestion for a NVT to claim. There are also not that many reads in his filter imo.
Would like him to put out a few more of those.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 16:20 GMT
#1695
I think JAT said something about Koshi's vote not being scum indicative.

Meanwhile I wasn't able to find a single read in darthfoley's filter. Like he has a bunch of "I dislike x" and "I like y" but besides being most confident in zyrre being scum he has not a single solid read.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 16:23 GMT
#1697
On February 08 2016 01:20 disformation wrote:
I think JAT said something about Koshi's vote not being scum indicative.

Meanwhile I wasn't able to find a single read in darthfoley's filter. Like he has a bunch of "I dislike x" and "I like y" but besides being most confident in zyrre being scum he has not a single solid read.

Oh sry I missed that he has a TR on Rels.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 16:34 GMT
#1701
On February 08 2016 01:30 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 01:20 disformation wrote:
I think JAT said something about Koshi's vote not being scum indicative.

Meanwhile I wasn't able to find a single read in darthfoley's filter. Like he has a bunch of "I dislike x" and "I like y" but besides being most confident in zyrre being scum he has not a single solid read.

Dunno, while I agree he doesn't have strong reads, his posts shows a very townie mindset IMO. Especially when he explained why he didn't vote Palmar and started to Zyrre wagon by himself. Why he preferred Zyrre to Palmar is very clearly stated, contrary to some other people (Koshi, Chez ...).
There is also the fact that both Damdred and ritoky townread him for his attitude as a newbie. Ritoky in particular, his read was "either Darth has improved a lot as scum or he's town".

Doesn't help with the fact that I have no clue, where his reads are at.

Also: The flower? MD has actual reads and they even make sense? Oo
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 16:50 GMT
#1716
How did damdy get his TR on MD?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 17:34 GMT
#1743
On February 08 2016 02:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
I see no reason to not think that the scum team is just like palmar/onegu/chez/moosy. I'm having the same problem as damdred this game. There are a few outliers like boxerfred/koshi/darth that have made me feel uneasy but everyone else i am pretty town on. And these only because they voted for zyrre when im pretty sure palmar is mafia.

Dunno. That would make a lot of sense, since a lot of ppl are really struggling to get solid scum reads off, including me.
On the other hand I am super paranoid about scenarios, where palmar is not scum and we have like 1-2 ppl playing a damn good scum game. So I am really not in favour of doing nothing until palmar shows up (or does not show up).
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 07 2016 17:35 GMT
#1746
On February 08 2016 02:31 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 01:14 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 08 2016 01:13 Rels wrote:
Both ritoky and Damdred townread kush too.


Lol rels you are going way too deep with this vca. To me it looks like scum killed strong town players who weren't likely to be protected.

That would mean that scum hit with their weird big gun and no vig shot was fired. It feels a bit like TMI what you're saying. You're a bit too sure.

The big gun only kills power roles. None of the flipped ppl were a power role.
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