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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 12 2016 21:32 GMT
#346
Dammit the worst feeling is hitting refresh over and over with nobody posting anything at all, while at the same time having to resist the temptation to post something just to post (since nobody is doing anything).

I feel I got better at that this game
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 12 2016 21:33 GMT
#347
On February 13 2016 05:58 Iwasrobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 05:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 13 2016 05:48 Iwasrobik wrote:
So we're in MYLO if there is no save during the game. Will read the thread now


this is gonna be good

Of course!


Better post something before night is over. Who knows, scum might shoot you and we need your valuable insight amiright?
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 12 2016 22:32 GMT
#355
On February 13 2016 06:36 Iwasrobik wrote:
Good timing keanu ^^
I think you're scum though. You're actually my strongest scumread, maybe something will change my mind during the posts I didn't read but I doubt it


Trololol this is gonna be fun
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 12 2016 23:02 GMT
#359
Oh shit, we are in MYLO then
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 12 2016 23:10 GMT
#363
Yeah dunno if I'd think too much about the NK. Scum have to WIFOM with medic around
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 12 2016 23:16 GMT
#368
Warty, I think it might be a good idea for you to like read the thread and respond to stuff and shit

Anyways, robik's case must be pretty long since he hasn't posted yet.
Better sharpen my attorney skills
[image loading]
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 12 2016 23:26 GMT
#372
On February 13 2016 08:24 Wartrukk wrote:
Reading the thread is for nerds


We are dudes playing a game of mafia every single day in a Starcraft forum.
We ARE nerds, you included, so get going with that thread-reading
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 12 2016 23:35 GMT
#375
OMG NNN BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MEDIC
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 12 2016 23:53 GMT
#377
On February 13 2016 08:31 Iwasrobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 08:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
wow interesting nk

Seemed obvious to me, you were the obvious prot and saitama was also very likely town. Right prot too, I would have raged if you died.


You seem pretty sure about that. Do you have any info we don't?

I would have raged if you died


Nice to see you got invested in the game that fast. Hopefully it continues
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 00:12 GMT
#383
On February 13 2016 09:07 Iwasrobik wrote:
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On February 13 2016 08:53 keanuisgod wrote:
On February 13 2016 08:31 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 13 2016 08:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
wow interesting nk

Seemed obvious to me, you were the obvious prot and saitama was also very likely town. Right prot too, I would have raged if you died.


You seem pretty sure about that. Do you have any info we don't?

I would have raged if you died


Nice to see you got invested in the game that fast. Hopefully it continues

Either call me scum or don't. If you do, explain why I posted these as scum. This kind of attacks don't help solve the game.


I won't call you anything until you've finished reading the thread and doing what you are going to do

As for the specific comment, it makes it seem like you know more than you should. At least considering this is your first "real" entrance into the game, so things being "obvious" and "I would have raged if X had died" feel totally out of place.
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 00:20 GMT
#387
Well, he hasn't put his vote on Valdi after straight up calling him scum so I think we know where this is going
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 00:23 GMT
#390
On February 13 2016 09:21 Wartrukk wrote:
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On February 13 2016 09:20 keanuisgod wrote:
Well, he hasn't put his vote on Valdi after straight up calling him scum so I think we know where this is going

Yeah but I want more stuff to read now


Well, you can still answer my question about Bhaal from the previous night.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for the whole "acting like you don't give a shit" thing from late-D1 for now, at least until D2 consolidates with Gargal/robik/Valdi showing up (I'm very interested to see what happens with these 3 this day)
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 01:30 GMT
#400
On February 13 2016 10:15 Iwasrobik wrote:
Kaenu is scum because:

His early game. Almost only jokes, which is only a smaaaaall scum indicator. Scum indicator nonetheless 'cause stuff was happening, namely kush publicly saying he was smurfhunting (small town indicator for driving discussion + being in the spotlight) and wartruk attacking him for that (good town indicator for attacking the loudest guy in the thread). Even if you disagree with my conclusions, the info was there to make serious posts.

But kaenu made jokes AND these two posts:
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On February 10 2016 10:57 keanuisgod wrote:
Okay, the bubblegum is gone (srs), so let's get to it!

On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?


I can see trying to out smurfs as a "Palmar-like" plan. After all, meta analysis is a (useful) tool town uses pretty often, and to do that you need to know who you are talking to. For example, if you can figure out an inactive lurker is actually a vet, you'd likely change your stance on him, comparing to you not knowing who he is.
These kind of plans aren't usually "scummy" nor "townie" (though there are some exceptions); they just are, specially in games with special characteristics that allow these kind of plans to emerge (like themed games)

Though I guess it kind of fights against the fun of this kind of game (i.e nobody knowing each other at all throughout all game, allowing shenanigans to happen).

Anyways, this seems like usual D1 shitfest OMGUSing, which is pretty neutral shit (i.e not scummy nor townie).

Nothing was said in this post. It's only fluff that appears townie, at a time when kaenu probably felt the need to post something serious but didn't want to take position.


You are right, it was fluff. So?

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On February 10 2016 12:01 keanuisgod wrote:
Considering NNN's recent attempts at smurf-hunting it does seem like it won't produce many useful results, thus allowing scum to smurfhunt on their own in their QT, but confusing the heck out of town (and most likely NNN if he acts on said "smurf reads")

And this post, which call kush scum without calling him scum for an extremely bad reason.


What makes you believe I implied kush was scum? I implied kush's smurfhunting abilities were bad
Might as well come forth with that, in the sense that I don't want NNN to believe I'm 100% someone and then make decisions off me based on that when it (may) not be true at all.
Hope hosts don't smite me (perhaps)

Two things.
First, this read is plagued with maybes and doubtfulness. Kaenu absolutely doesn't believe in his case, but voted anyway because "fuck it".


You got that right

Second, the reasonning as to why LS could be scum COULD BE APPLIED TO KAENU HIMSELF. When he said LS kept throwing "cheery" posts, KAENU KEPT THROWING JOKING POST. This is the worst:
Show nested quote +

This post is ripe with excuses ("I sometimes can't read into properly when I'm tired") and all the smileys lke ">.<" and ">.>" which serve little purpose other than appear like an innocent playful townie. It also shows an unnatural fear to respond a normal question saita asked him (like saita asked everybody). The reaction is odd and scummy

Read the above carefully and compare with this kaenu post:
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On February 10 2016 11:46 keanuisgod wrote:
On February 10 2016 11:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 10 2016 10:57 keanuisgod wrote:
Okay, the bubblegum is gone (srs), so let's get to it!

On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?


I can see trying to out smurfs as a "Palmar-like" plan. After all, meta analysis is a (useful) tool town uses pretty often, and to do that you need to know who you are talking to. For example, if you can figure out an inactive lurker is actually a vet, you'd likely change your stance on him, comparing to you not knowing who he is.
These kind of plans aren't usually "scummy" nor "townie" (though there are some exceptions); they just are, specially in games with special characteristics that allow these kind of plans to emerge (like themed games)

Though I guess it kind of fights against the fun of this kind of game (i.e nobody knowing each other at all throughout all game, allowing shenanigans to happen).

Anyways, this seems like usual D1 shitfest OMGUSing, which is pretty neutral shit (i.e not scummy nor townie).


WHAT
THE
FUCK
ARE YOU EVEN DOING.....
Seriously ritoky, what is the motivation behind this post?
You want to sound smart with your little lectures that DONT EVEN MAKE SENSE? (AFK vets...WAT??)
You want to provide Wartrukk an out from my pressure? Maybe buddy him? Maybe protect your scumbud? What's your angle, pal?


I ... I just wanted to contribute to the current thread situation, posting what I believed made the most sense ;_;

[image loading]

But srs, dunno, do whatever you want. I believe the juicy D1 will start after this "fight" is settled and the other 5-6 people chime in, there's no hurry.

Yep. Kaenu did exactly what he scumread LS for doing.


I'll let you reread those posts and see if you notice the difference yourself

Here, I'll even show both posts so you can spot the difference more easily:

On February 10 2016 23:17 Bhaal LoM wrote:
Okay enough roleplaying for me it time to be a little bit more serious(If you don't know my name is from you prob never played Baldur's Gate or Baldur's Gate 2).
To answer your question nnn:
I was wanting to see if kean can read more into stuff than I could because I sometimes can't read into properly exp when I am tired >.< Also I wanted to see his thoughts at the time given the low activity of the thread >.>


On February 10 2016 11:46 keanuisgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2016 11:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 10 2016 10:57 keanuisgod wrote:
Okay, the bubblegum is gone (srs), so let's get to it!

On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?


I can see trying to out smurfs as a "Palmar-like" plan. After all, meta analysis is a (useful) tool town uses pretty often, and to do that you need to know who you are talking to. For example, if you can figure out an inactive lurker is actually a vet, you'd likely change your stance on him, comparing to you not knowing who he is.
These kind of plans aren't usually "scummy" nor "townie" (though there are some exceptions); they just are, specially in games with special characteristics that allow these kind of plans to emerge (like themed games)

Though I guess it kind of fights against the fun of this kind of game (i.e nobody knowing each other at all throughout all game, allowing shenanigans to happen).

Anyways, this seems like usual D1 shitfest OMGUSing, which is pretty neutral shit (i.e not scummy nor townie).


WHAT
THE
FUCK
ARE YOU EVEN DOING.....
Seriously ritoky, what is the motivation behind this post?
You want to sound smart with your little lectures that DONT EVEN MAKE SENSE? (AFK vets...WAT??)
You want to provide Wartrukk an out from my pressure? Maybe buddy him? Maybe protect your scumbud? What's your angle, pal?


I ... I just wanted to contribute to the current thread situation, posting what I believed made the most sense ;_;

[image loading]

But srs, dunno, do whatever you want. I believe the juicy D1 will start after this "fight" is settled and the other 5-6 people chime in, there's no hurry.


Read the above carefully
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 01:47 GMT
#402
Likely scum, based on the previous PoE, the "obvious" comment, and the fact that nothing he made so far screams town to me.
Dont really want to say hes scum for FOSing me and make it bad OMGUS or make it appear like im some arrogant dick ... but dunno I feel like im very protown this game so I find it hard to believe someone would find me as "obvious scum". Few people had open discussions about me after the Bhaal case so maybe Im misguided, dunno what you believe.
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 04:03 GMT
#405
Dunno if id make associations like this right now.
Though to be honest i really thought robik would vote me lol. Maybe its misddirection whatever
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 04:24 GMT
#406
On February 13 2016 04:36 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 04:25 keanuisgod wrote:
Now that you are here, what about Gargy?

I get the feeling he's too confrontational and "in-your-face" to be scum, but based on PoE he's up there, at least considering the facts (the vote on a lurker without many other contributions regarding scum, etc)


Yes. It is suspicious how he showed up right after bhaal mentioned him, deflected onto 77, then fucked off.

But I don't see him as especially scummy actually. He had solid points against 77.
Awkward opening, bad vt claim, late to the party, etc.
Plus you can't really fault someone for a lurker lynch..

It's a very weak read. Hopefully garg gives us more content to judge him off of.


Wat changed yor mind?
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 06:22 GMT
#407
On February 13 2016 10:20 Iwasrobik wrote:
To finish quickly before leaving:
kush is town 'cause he is the the main force behind discussion in this game.


Also, considering I'm in a competition with NNN for most try-hard townie this game, this breaks my heart ;_;
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 18:47 GMT
#417
On February 13 2016 16:34 Iwasrobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 15:22 keanuisgod wrote:
On February 13 2016 10:20 Iwasrobik wrote:
To finish quickly before leaving:
kush is town 'cause he is the the main force behind discussion in this game.


Also, considering I'm in a competition with NNN for most try-hard townie this game, this breaks my heart ;_;

Lol. You're just so useless. You're almost never calling people scum when you're maybe he longest filter in the game. Like for me, you ddint comment on ANYTHING except my read on you, and only AFTER kush asked you to, when I've posted my thoughts on everyone in the game.


So by symmetry, this means you are the towniest town that has ever towned because the first thing you did when coming into the thread is accuse me?

I've made my point about being "decisive" about one's reads on someone and how to present them to the thread before. I prefer the more honest way of playing in which I have high or low suspicions of people and act accordingly, and not faking "being sure" someone is scum just because it's some hidden requirement to be "super townie" (unless of course I am really sure someone is scum).

If you want me to be explicit then yes I'm highly suspicious of you now (both from PoE and your play so far)

Like for me, you ddint comment on ANYTHING except my read on you, and only AFTER kush asked you to ...


Well yeah, NNN asked me about you like minutes after I got into the thread.
Also that's not technically true (I made a comment about your "obvious medic save" thingy).

... when I've posted my thoughts on everyone in the game


If I find something interesting in those posts of yours then I'll surely point them out. Since I haven't (so far) then I didn't.
I don't think you remember that you only have like 10 posts in this game so far
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 18:47 GMT
#418
Anyways robik, I am not sure you believe your own case against me, it seems to me like you haven't even read my filter (though I'm biased since I now my alignment obs).

Your only points are:
- "Fluff" posts and "He's not trying to solve the game" attitude when it was like 2-4 hours into D1, conveniently ignoring anything else from late-D1 (where shit actually matters).
- The Bhaal case, which also had an illogical point (the last one). I can't really call you out on you thinking that about me because of the Bhaal case since you weren't there in the thread when it happened (though I guess you can still reread the thread carefully to figure things out). So I'll ignore that (other than the bad point you made). I advise you to reread that part of the thread carefully.
- Don't call too many people scum. I can see how you may think this might be "scummy" in isolation, but context is everything so I believe just reading the thread and my filter would dissipate any doubts regarding this point.

Either way, your case is too weak for me to be convinced that you are actually THAT convinced by it that I'm the remaining scum.
Though from your POV the only possible scum (other than Valdi apparently) are me, Garga or Warty .... still, I find it hard to believe the points you made implicate me that strongly when not even Garga and Warty are strong town reads of yours


On February 13 2016 10:20 Iwasrobik wrote:
To finish quickly before leaving:
kush is town 'cause he is the the main force behind discussion in this game, and scum has an hard time doing that; and kush is a pretty lazy scum.


You know NNN's smurf?
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 13 2016 18:54 GMT
#419
On February 13 2016 16:34 Iwasrobik wrote:
What do you think of Vlad ?


I'm on the fence right now. His soft stance and fixation on saitama is too weird (in the "appearing I'm contributing when I'm not" sense). He showed up like 2 times in the thread to dump a bunch of posts and "attempts to understand things", but he didn't at any point interact with the thread, which I find scummy.

But he has some very town-like features (like the "posting reads as I read the thread" attitude, some good points I believe he made in some posts, maybe some of the phrasing or content he posted at times felt genuine). Those are enough for me to give him the benefit of the doubt until he shows up, or I reread things and come to better conclusions.

The "he didn't scumhunt much" I don't want to put much weight on since at the time in D1 NOTHING was happening and everybody was null. Remember it took me posting the Bhaal case for things to actually get going, and then everything was still in that "meh nobody is scummy" limbo that forced people to lynch an inactive.
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