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keanuisgod
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On February 11 2016 08:30 Bhaal LoM wrote: kean you want to talk with me you said? You mentioned feeling good about Valdi, so I wanted to know what you thought about what he posted. There's also been a bunch of slight town and scum reads floating around, so you could comment on those, or on anything else you find worthy | ||
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keanuisgod
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On February 11 2016 09:00 Bhaal LoM wrote: I honestly not played a game since about I 2013 to be honest lol. Had the meta change on how to play the game? Yes. In today's TL, the meta is that you are supposed to find scum and post scumreads in the thread, Unbelievable, I know, but wat u gonna do? | ||
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keanuisgod
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On February 11 2016 08:37 Bhaal LoM wrote: I am quite sad that no one is around when I am around  On February 11 2016 09:00 Bhaal LoM wrote: I honestly not played a game since about I 2013 to be honest lol. Had the meta change on how to play the game? I'm not sure if posts like this show a poor lost townie out of his depth, or scum faking being "innocent and naive" to forgo posting actual content. I'll just be straight with my suspicions here: Bhaal came to the thread roleplaying in a fun and seemingly confident manner, but as soon as he stopped roleplaying he turned into a mess: On February 10 2016 23:17 Bhaal LoM wrote: Okay enough roleplaying for me it time to be a little bit more serious(If you don't know my name is from you prob never played Baldur's Gate or Baldur's Gate 2). To answer your question nnn: I was wanting to see if kean can read more into stuff than I could because I sometimes can't read into properly exp when I am tired >.< Also I wanted to see his thoughts at the time given the low activity of the thread >.> This post is ripe with excuses ("I sometimes can't read into properly when I'm tired") and all the smileys lke ">.<" and ">.>" which serve little purpose other than appear like an innocent playful townie. It also shows an unnatural fear to respond a normal question saita asked him (like saita asked everybody). The reaction is odd and scummy On February 10 2016 13:47 Bhaal LoM wrote: Good now tell me who you think could be a child of mine(scum) and why? On February 10 2016 14:11 Bhaal LoM wrote: Fair enough Mortal but considering the fact this game is rather slow paced atm because no one is really posting and I more of a analytical God when it comes to finding my children(scum). When more mortals enter the thread/talk more I will try to find my children(scum). If this helps their name is Imoen and Sarevok. The response he gave saita about why he pressured me doesn't seem to make much sense with what he actually posted. When I noticed his question, I got the feeling he wanted me to post some content and reads. His response seemed to confirm this, with the "Fair enough Mortal" (making it seem he was satisfied with my response). But later in his response to saita he says he only asked my for my reads so he could piggybank them since he "can't read properly when he's tired"? But what about "being the analytical God when it comes to find scum"? Was that a lie that only existed in "role-playing-mode"? I said previously this scumread was flimsy BECAUSE of the roleplay. Maybe, for some reason, town Bhaal got all confident and funny and stuff and acted like that, but when he stopped roleplaying the situation overwhelmed him or something and this is how he normally plays. But it still feels weird. He keeps apologizing (here) and just throwing casual "cheery" posts. Yet he has actually to post any actual content at all, even when asked by many people. Might as well start somewhere, fuck it #Vote: Bhaal LoM P.S: I'm not really confident in this read, mainly because I have a gut feeling in my stomach that Bhaal is just clueless town and this is all a misunderstanding, and also I'm a little pussy and I don't want to commit to a 100% scum read this early into the day. But whatever, we have to start somewhere and this is the best lead I've got, after the 3 inactive dudes | ||
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keanuisgod
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keanuisgod
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You may disagree with my decision of placing a vote based on what I said, but it does not mean it comes from scum | ||
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keanuisgod
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On February 11 2016 10:27 saitamaofonepunch wrote: If your read is strong enough to vote on, and bhaal has not defended any of those points, why are you leaving yourself a bunch of back doors? Concerns before a vote are totally ok. Concerns in the case are just what scum do. I was trying to hold on to these suspicions until Bhaal actually posted something, but with his refusal to do so I couldn't really wait. The "concerns" I post in the case are these concerns that made me wary of posting anything before. Anyways, call them "backdoors" if you want, but those are my actual concerns regarding Bhaal's alignment, which may disappear or grow stronger depending on what happens from now on. Basically my head tells me Bhaal is scum but my heart tells me he's town. I feel the suspicions were enough to post them, and I placed a vote to get the ball rolling since votes are what count over here. No one said I "had to vote", but nobody said I had to "not" vote either. On February 11 2016 10:29 saitamaofonepunch wrote: In other words, due to your creating outs for yourself, you look like an opportunistic scum that just found the first low hanging fruit of the day. I don't care how it looks. I care about transparency in motivations and actions, and I won't hide them just because they may feel "scummy". In the end that's what will actually matter when trying to make people trust that I'm town and listen to what I have to say | ||
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keanuisgod
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On February 11 2016 10:40 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: I'm voting with keanu. His case on bhaal isn't bad, and it's certainly not scummy. I find his confession that he's not certain in the read simply honest. Bhaal is gone all day, says he has to catch up, then has nothing to say about anything except when prompted by keanu. He wants someone to interact with him because he is having trouble generating his own content. What about Warty? | ||
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keanuisgod
271 Posts
Anyways, I'll just go wait then. The case on Bhaal is not really something he can "defend" and is not based on something we can "push" on him. We still have a third of the game lurking too | ||
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keanuisgod
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On February 11 2016 11:12 saitamaofonepunch wrote: Like it is implied that you aren't sure, right? So why waste the space? I can't see a town motive for it even though I see the reason. However I can see a scum motive for it, yet people do things for reasons too. I guess it depends on the player. Some players start tunneling someone on D1 and "are" convinced the other is scum. Sure, they may always think "Well, this is D1 so he might actually be town", but regarding their motivation for lynching someone it doesn't really apply, i.e they will gladly lynch that person if the day just happened to end right at that moment. Since this isn't that case exactly, I felt it necessary to point it out. I always found that "tunneling" mechanic weird, in a philosophical sense. How can you push the lynch for someone, specially on D1, with so little knowledge? How can you be sure he's scum? How can you make your posts reflect this? Should you convince yourself that you are sure he's scum, just so your posts reflect that and you can get the lynch more smoothly? Or do you keep the doubt (that he might be town) in your heart, and in the thread pretend you are really sure? If you post your doubts and concerns then people will jump at you and said lynch may not go through (or they may FOS you). However, if you "lie", then the lynch might go through without a hitch. But ... aren't you lying to yourself there? If the dude actually flips town, wouldn't you have wanted someone to confirm your concerns so you wouldn't have lynch a townie? How can you live with the guilt in that case? Even in the case the dude flips scum, how can you take this risk, every single game, where at some point he might flip town and you'll have to face this guilt eventually? What is it that you ought to do? Mafia is hard yo On February 11 2016 11:14 saitamaofonepunch wrote: He can defend by picking it up and consolidating posts. Or, barring that, simply waiting for a better target to come up. I meant he couldn't really do a point-by-point defense of every point in my case, since he basically admitted to not being sure and not scumhunting and not being a "town leader" and whatever | ||
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On February 11 2016 19:45 GargamelxD wrote: And Bhaals opinion of him doesnt make any sense (his opinion of me and not-opinion on rom). what he said about me he could say about rom and yet he thinks im more likely mafia. so i guess after realizing that im willing to vote both, and its not LS Actually what he said about you could also be said about unholy, not Gold On February 11 2016 14:10 Bhaal LoM wrote: Like if any of the lurkers are scum prob is Gargame I didn't care for this post from him: He didn't try to analyze anything at all and he havne't posted anything since that post and it kind of worrisome. But his other content seems meh. Idk if it warrants a vote because sometimes townies are well lurkers. On February 10 2016 19:51 unholyflare wrote: I don't make anything of the arguments that have gone on. I'll return later in case something interesting happened. Bhaal, why be suspicious of Garga and not unholy when they basically made the same exact post (which made you find Garga suspicious)? @Garga: Your focus right now is on the "relative" lurkers. What about the more active players? Is there some active scum running around we can't seem to notice? | ||
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keanuisgod
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Notes on Bhaal: 1 - He had a bandwagon against him (3 votes, with 5 necessary to lynch). Yet he kept the same exact attitude and posting behavior. He didn't panic, didn't try to plead or act differently in an unnatural way (e.g instantly trying to FOS someone) 2 - On February 11 2016 12:46 Bhaal LoM wrote: Man when I around no one is around jesus..... Anyways like I said I think Sait is town and vald as town despite the fact Sait is voting me. On February 11 2016 12:49 Bhaal LoM wrote: nnn is null because I dislike his smurf hunting over scum hunting but his content otherwsie was okay. War seems townie too I think he was attacking nnn hard on his smurf hunting stuff. He's the leading bandwagon and he can only muster town/null reads? Other than me/NNN he basically called every "active" people town, giving himself no outs in terms of dropping suspicion off him. He only ended up with scum between lurkers after pondering, which he did follow up later, but not much. As scum, he'd be actively trying NOT to put pressure off him, as the leading lynch. If not, at least he'd be showing some kind of panic or fear, which he didn't. 3 - If he is indeed "helpess town", I guess it makes sense. This D1 is slow in content and activity, we acknowledge that and he does too. Based on this and town reading some people, if he was town there wouldn't be much he could be doing to gain new reads, other than interacting in the thread posting his thought process and doubts, which is what he's been doing. Bhaal came out better from this so far. Heart wins this battle then #Unvote I'm not ready to bandwagon on Gold yet. Unholy may have had the "nicer" posts, but that doesn't exempt him from being mafia trying to blend in, rather than mafia trying to shit the thread (which is what you guys are accusing Gold of). | ||
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keanuisgod
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On February 11 2016 23:53 Valdiano wrote: alright, placing my vote on Gold for now, afk. Thoughts on the (until some time ago) leading lynch, Bhaal? Until now I've developed a town read on saita based on his interactions with me. From my POV, his FOS of me and subsequent town read on me felt natural, at least based on how I think he'd be reacting to my responses and such. For instance, we know he's being kind of an ass in that "lecturing" manner from early D1, getting all up in your ass and shit. Him doing that with the "scumtell" from my case and calling me out felt natural in that sense. After explaning myself it made sense for him to back down too. I'll have to check him again though now that you guys put the doubt out there. On February 12 2016 00:03 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: But due to how active and vocal he's being, I think that he's probably a good lynch today. "But due to how active and vocal he's being" would indicate you NOT thinking he's a probable lynch. I presume this is a typo then? Or do you think he should be today's lynch? | ||
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keanuisgod
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Anyways, I'll mention that in 2 hours I'll leave and won't be back before deadline. Don't really want to lynch an inactive on D1, hopefully things pick up by then | ||
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