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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 16:27 GMT
#796
@Alur
Your above post suggests that you thought/someone thought that he was/gave off a tryhard vibe. When/Why did you think that if it is you who suggests it?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 16:40 GMT
#801
On January 29 2016 01:39 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 01:38 darthfoley wrote:
On January 29 2016 00:55 Alur wrote:
On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2.


But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment.

Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit.

Rofl. What doc? How can you be sure this is setup A) or C)?


This is so god damn bad. Either you're doc and you just outed yourself, or you're mafia and let slip that we're playing either A or C. There's a 3/13 chance your mafia, there's a 1/13 chance you're doc. And you're scummy as hell

##Unvote
##Vote: Kuragari


OR he didn't understand the setup.

How is that possible with the fact we discussed that because of me and that he said he read the thread
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 16:42 GMT
#804
Kuragari, Ikido, and Onegu are my lynch/scumreads for today

Kuragari for that slip and because he should of know that if he read the early thread
Ikido: For obvis. Reasons
Onegu: Hasn't done anything recently and has some scummy things in his filter.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 16:44 GMT
#808
On January 29 2016 01:41 nooniansoong wrote:
@SHAPE, your darth, eden, ikid tinfoil is terrible and you know it. Dont you?

No, in fact it is really good.
Just the fact that there is a guy who slip something that is incredible scummy has gotten me to think maybe I am wrong with one of them (Eden and Darth pool).
I am debating who to vote.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 16:48 GMT
#814
On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2.

Not to mention that if the doc is in this game might change up the NK a bit For mafia.

He is missing the bold. Him missing the bold words are important.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 16:52 GMT
#818
On January 29 2016 01:46 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 01:44 Shapelog wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:41 nooniansoong wrote:
@SHAPE, your darth, eden, ikid tinfoil is terrible and you know it. Dont you?

No, in fact it is really good.
Just the fact that there is a guy who slip something that is incredible scummy has gotten me to think maybe I am wrong with one of them (Eden and Darth pool).
I am debating who to vote.


no theory based on a connection between three hypothetical scum d1 is good.

You're just mad that I did the same thing to you with Rik and Giyga Khan in Nutcracker aren't you?
Also duh ik, But if we end up lynching Ikido and he flips scum, then I already have a direction to go into and poke.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 16:54 GMT
#821
On January 29 2016 01:52 nooniansoong wrote:
scumlist for brags

3. JesusIncarnate
4. Alur
10. Onegu
13. Shapelog

Is Bragging rights the only reason why you are even playing at this point?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 17:01 GMT
#823
On January 29 2016 01:53 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 01:52 Shapelog wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:46 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:44 Shapelog wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:41 nooniansoong wrote:
@SHAPE, your darth, eden, ikid tinfoil is terrible and you know it. Dont you?

No, in fact it is really good.
Just the fact that there is a guy who slip something that is incredible scummy has gotten me to think maybe I am wrong with one of them (Eden and Darth pool).
I am debating who to vote.


no theory based on a connection between three hypothetical scum d1 is good.

You're just mad that I did the same thing to you with Rik and Giyga Khan in Nutcracker aren't you?
Also duh ik, But if we end up lynching Ikido and he flips scum, then I already have a direction to go into and poke.


but you were wrong then so why so sure that you're right now?

So you are And the whole god damm situation has changed.
Because that theory revoked around Rik mafia trying to pocket me because i was a innocent child. Then you and giyga Khan came in after with (i'll admit less then soild) Connections.
Here, It revolves around a mafia making a bad read and trying to get there scum team mate in the clear. Evidence that Darth is scum with him is we are to believe that he didn't see anything scummy and the fact he was trying to get Ikido pressence in the thread by asking him about Onegu and Trofl.
Eden is connected by making the initial case and trying to control the scum reasons and the pressure. And then giving him back doors out of being scum.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 17:12 GMT
#828
On January 29 2016 02:06 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 01:52 Shapelog wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:46 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:44 Shapelog wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:41 nooniansoong wrote:
@SHAPE, your darth, eden, ikid tinfoil is terrible and you know it. Dont you?

No, in fact it is really good.
Just the fact that there is a guy who slip something that is incredible scummy has gotten me to think maybe I am wrong with one of them (Eden and Darth pool).
I am debating who to vote.


no theory based on a connection between three hypothetical scum d1 is good.

You're just mad that I did the same thing to you with Rik and Giyga Khan in Nutcracker aren't you?
Also duh ik, But if we end up lynching Ikido and he flips scum, then I already have a direction to go into and poke.


About your stupid tinfoil darth/eden/ikido scum team:

I know this is WIFOM, but my first (scum) game, we lost our roleblocker D1 and the 3 people who voted for him were more or less confirmed as town for the rest of the game, which makes it almost impossible to win as mafia. I would be more than okay bussing a shitty mafia teammate who's super obvious (no offense Ikido) if it meant getting me super town cred, especially considering Eden and I were the first ones to talk about his inconsistencies (wouldn't be questioned about bandwagoning).

Second WIFOM point, I suggest you take a look through my filter from last game. Unless I leveled up severely in the last two weeks, I wouldn't have the confidence to play such an assertive, risky mafia game.

I don't question your doubts on Ikido, but even if he flips scum, it will be NAI about me and Eden

Well I ask you (and this extends to Eden, but i think he explained it a bit) Why did you give Ikido so much ways to escape in you posts towards him? All the coachs, newbie, etc. excuses. Why?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 17:26 GMT
#836
On January 29 2016 02:19 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 02:12 Shapelog wrote:
On January 29 2016 02:06 darthfoley wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:52 Shapelog wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:46 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:44 Shapelog wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:41 nooniansoong wrote:
@SHAPE, your darth, eden, ikid tinfoil is terrible and you know it. Dont you?

No, in fact it is really good.
Just the fact that there is a guy who slip something that is incredible scummy has gotten me to think maybe I am wrong with one of them (Eden and Darth pool).
I am debating who to vote.


no theory based on a connection between three hypothetical scum d1 is good.

You're just mad that I did the same thing to you with Rik and Giyga Khan in Nutcracker aren't you?
Also duh ik, But if we end up lynching Ikido and he flips scum, then I already have a direction to go into and poke.


About your stupid tinfoil darth/eden/ikido scum team:

I know this is WIFOM, but my first (scum) game, we lost our roleblocker D1 and the 3 people who voted for him were more or less confirmed as town for the rest of the game, which makes it almost impossible to win as mafia. I would be more than okay bussing a shitty mafia teammate who's super obvious (no offense Ikido) if it meant getting me super town cred, especially considering Eden and I were the first ones to talk about his inconsistencies (wouldn't be questioned about bandwagoning).

Second WIFOM point, I suggest you take a look through my filter from last game. Unless I leveled up severely in the last two weeks, I wouldn't have the confidence to play such an assertive, risky mafia game.

I don't question your doubts on Ikido, but even if he flips scum, it will be NAI about me and Eden

Well I ask you (and this extends to Eden, but i think he explained it a bit) Why did you give Ikido so much ways to escape in you posts towards him? All the coachs, newbie, etc. excuses. Why?


Because I feel for him. Granted I was lost in my first forum mafia game as scum, but I can definitely see why a first time town wouldn't be too sure of any of this reads, and wouldn't want to offend/piss other town off. Basically, read what Trfel posted because it sums up some of my current feelings towards Ikido
+ Show Spoiler +

I'm not townreading him very strongly, but it's a slight read still.

Ikidomari has been very open about feeling behind and not skilled enough. To me, this feels towny. In general, when mafia isn't skilled enough, they don't try and just give up. Ikidomari's play hasn't shown this at all. Instead, he feels relaxed and natural.

His posts have felt free-flowing, and I don't think that the inconsistencies disrupt the flow of his reads from a town perspective. I realize that this is very subjective.

I also feel that he's raised a few decent points that aren't so obvious. This is also subjective, though. In general, I don't like to lynch people because I don't have a good reason to townread them; if I can't show that they are scum, I don't want to lynch them. And I personally don't feel like I can show that Ikidomari is scum right now.


I think you can interpret him either way; if for example, it is Ikidomari vs. one of my TRs near EoD, I would likely vote for Ikido, but he isn't one of my primary suspects currently

Hmmm, ok i can understand where you are coming from. In my opinion he has given up a bit with his last few posts, which goes against trofl town read.
Then again I would expect a mafia, regardless of any type of experience level, to be aware what they are being town/scum read for.
Idk you might of just bought Ikido a extra day. Let me dwindle on it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 17:29 GMT
#838
On January 29 2016 02:27 Onegu wrote:
My son is in the hospital now don't expect much.

Damm, I am sorry Onegu.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 17:39 GMT
#846
To be honest it doesn't even make sense kush, due to how all those 4 players have interacted with each other.
Only one that makes sense really is Me/Trofl/Alur since we all have town read/lean each other.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 17:50 GMT
#854
On January 29 2016 02:37 darthfoley wrote:
Welp, can't we find this out for sure when we try to lynch him? Claims, CCs and all that?

If he is Doc: well he just outed himself
If he is Vt and there is a Doc and he outs: We lose a Doc for a vt, Horrible
If he Is Scum, claims, and get CCed: We lose a doc for a scum, which is O.K. but considering how every successful heal adds a +1 to the needed mislynch counter
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 17:57 GMT
#857
I clicked post too quickly
So if we can I rather we try to keep the doc underwrap.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 18:00 GMT
#860
On January 29 2016 02:56 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 02:51 Alur wrote:
On January 29 2016 02:35 nooniansoong wrote:
I think kura townslipped. Aka dumbtell

I assume you have no reasons or that you're not willing to share them.


If he were scum he would have known that there isn't definitely a doc. Instead he read something and misinterpreted it to mean there was a doc

How do you know there isn't a doc?

This game uses a variable open setup. When the game begins, one of the following setups will be chosen:

A) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
B) 1 Town Cop, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
C) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Doctor, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon
D) 1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Mafia Godfather, 1 Mafia Goon

2 set ups with a doc, mafia knows if there is a doc or not (since they know the set up) Town does not know. How do you know that there isn't a Doc?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 18:01 GMT
#861
Did Kush just Dumbtell/Scum slip talking about Kura Scumslip/Dumbtell?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 18:04 GMT
#863
They don't even have to read the OP, since the set up is told to scum in PM as it shows In the sample PM's.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 18:06 GMT
#865
On January 29 2016 03:05 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 03:01 Shapelog wrote:
Did Kush just Dumbtell/Scum slip talking about Kura Scumslip/Dumbtell?

Nah.

If he said "there definitely isn't a doc" it would be a scumslip.

"there isn't definitely a doc" is a true statement.

Ah ok, I read it wrong.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 18:18 GMT
#871
Oh i didn't post the vote for Ikiomari when i called him scum >_>
Vote:Ikidomari Darthfy didn't sell me
On January 29 2016 03:11 PepperMintTea wrote:
##Unvote

## Vote Kuragari42

You have been absent from that discussion. Why/what made you vote for him
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 18:22 GMT
#872
No wait ##: Unvote.
I want to think about it more.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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