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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 15:58 GMT
#456
@Trifl
Tumble had the case against me which was nothing more "he is calling himself scum" and giving a NAI statement about my meta tool on Kush. He hasn't done anything real townie, hell his activity drop is kinda of scaring.
Alur, while i have not read his filter, he has been actively solving the game and has paid attention to find a conflict in Darth reading on Onegu. He is leaning town for me Right now.
@PepperMintTea
My scum case doesn't revolve that.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 16:41 GMT
#467
On January 28 2016 01:35 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 01:21 PepperMintTea wrote:

I was asked the same question more than once and that is the general form.

On January 27 2016 09:17 nooniansoong wrote:


Why would townies be nervous?

On January 27 2016 13:08 _MexicanAlien wrote:
For PepperMintTea:
You said you think that Shapelog seemed "overexcited or nervous". If he was in fact town, why would he be nervous? He should be put off by accusations/scum observations. Also, what about being townie make him overexcited?
I can see how rolling mafia would make a noob overexcited or nervous.


Considering I read shapelog as town and these are the questions I was asked , my "rephrasing of the question" is in fact not interesting.


It appears you have not understood what I said and I apologise for that. Let me simplify things for you.

I don't know the exact reason behind ShapeLog being nervous or over excited. There could be many reasons, I gave a few. However I do think he came across as nervous or over excited, that is my opinion.

As a result of this it caused his haphazardous posting. In my opinion Haphazardous posting of that form typically comes from town.

hence my conclusion.

If you don't understand that then I feel sorry for you.

It's Occam's razor.
The best reason for the way he is acting is that he is Mafia.
And the most plausible reason for you excluding this very obvious solution is that you are Mafia too.

Yeah I am totally mafia with PepperMintTea. Totally because how I was the first person to make a mini case about her and i will totally push my scum mate into the lynch candidates (Kush/noon did talk about it, but he just asked questions and voted)
Yeah Totally Brah.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 16:43 GMT
#468
I mean Shapelog is a dumbass but that is just another level of Dumbassness He doesn't have.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 16:54 GMT
#474
On January 28 2016 01:50 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:
On January 28 2016 01:35 _MexicanAlien wrote:
It's Occam's razor.
The best reason for the way he is acting is that he is Mafia.
And the most plausible reason for you excluding this very obvious solution is that you are Mafia too.


Yeah I am totally mafia with PepperMintTea. Totally because how I was the first person to make a mini case about her and i will totally push my scum mate into the lynch candidates (Kush/noon did talk about it, but he just asked questions and voted)
Yeah Totally Brah.


Dude no one trusts what you say. If anything, your illogical case against her actually helped her.

I don't care if no one trusts what I say. All i am focus on is finding mafia and getting a direction figured out for d2 (which i can only do after lynch)
But How did my case help her. By saying all she has been doing is posing defenses and nothing else?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 16:59 GMT
#480
Trfel.
What part of Tryhard mode do you not understand?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 17:08 GMT
#487
You woke me up. also i fliped because I didn't say the quoted phase
Idc if i have cred, and why should i care. Unless I am getting mislynched there isn't no need to please people. I rather post reads and do shit.
On January 28 2016 02:01 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:
On January 28 2016 01:35 _MexicanAlien wrote:
On January 28 2016 01:21 PepperMintTea wrote:

I was asked the same question more than once and that is the general form.

On January 27 2016 09:17 nooniansoong wrote:


Why would townies be nervous?

On January 27 2016 13:08 _MexicanAlien wrote:
For PepperMintTea:
You said you think that Shapelog seemed "overexcited or nervous". If he was in fact town, why would he be nervous? He should be put off by accusations/scum observations. Also, what about being townie make him overexcited?
I can see how rolling mafia would make a noob overexcited or nervous.


Considering I read shapelog as town and these are the questions I was asked , my "rephrasing of the question" is in fact not interesting.


It appears you have not understood what I said and I apologise for that. Let me simplify things for you.

I don't know the exact reason behind ShapeLog being nervous or over excited. There could be many reasons, I gave a few. However I do think he came across as nervous or over excited, that is my opinion.

As a result of this it caused his haphazardous posting. In my opinion Haphazardous posting of that form typically comes from town.

hence my conclusion.

If you don't understand that then I feel sorry for you.

It's Occam's razor.
The best reason for the way he is acting is that he is Mafia.
And the most plausible reason for you excluding this very obvious solution is that you are Mafia too.

Yeah I am totally mafia with PepperMintTea. Totally because how I was the first person to make a mini case about her and i will totally push my scum mate into the lynch candidates (Kush/noon did talk about it, but he just asked questions and voted)
Yeah Totally Brah.


No offesne brah, but if I were your mafia teammate I would probably ask you to think up a case against me, simply because it probably wouldn't stick. Similar to what MexicanAlien said.

But Brah would you let me push you onto the radar to the townies?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 17:10 GMT
#488
On January 28 2016 02:06 Trfel wrote:
Onegu, one last question, sorry:

Can you describe how your read on Shapelog changed as time passed, and why?

Why did you think it changed? Because i scum read him?
If anything I am speaking his language.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 17:25 GMT
#496
On January 28 2016 02:17 nooniansoong wrote:
let's punish onegu for trying by lynching him

No! You asshole! This has been the most easiest time I had Reading Onegu.
But i lynch him sense he is mafia.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 18:56 GMT
#526
Yo Brain test went fine.
For me scum is:
Onegu
PeppermintTea
Tumbleweed?

Tumbleweed hasn't done much and his case one me was bad IMO. that is why he is here. I have more reasoning for Onegy and Peppermint.

@Mexican
Are you really putting the main case of your case as "He is spamming and not improving his game play?"
You do realizes there are coachs and people who like Eden who told me why set up speculation is bad
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 18:59 GMT
#528
Like honestly i agree my intial posing sucks.
But you have all i have talk about. From me thinking that Darth could be trying to be buddy Eden to scum reading Pepperment.

You are klinging to crappy reasons to lynch me.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 19:02 GMT
#530
Eh who cares.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 27 2016 19:06 GMT
#531
On January 28 2016 04:02 JesusIncarnate wrote:
Shapelog is leaning more town now, but im not outright town-reading them.

Why the change of heart if you don't mind me asking?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 28 2016 00:32 GMT
#619
I am here, Just got on. I found a dog in a trash can near my college and been running around seeing where it can receive help (it had a dislocated shoulder)

I am going to catch up. I see that Alur has questions so I will look at them.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 28 2016 00:42 GMT
#626
On January 28 2016 06:07 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 04:28 Alur wrote:
On January 28 2016 02:08 Shapelog wrote:
You woke me up. also i fliped because I didn't say the quoted phase
Idc if i have cred, and why should i care. Unless I am getting mislynched there isn't no need to please people. I rather post reads and do shit.
On January 28 2016 02:01 darthfoley wrote:
On January 28 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:
On January 28 2016 01:35 _MexicanAlien wrote:
On January 28 2016 01:21 PepperMintTea wrote:

I was asked the same question more than once and that is the general form.

On January 27 2016 09:17 nooniansoong wrote:


Why would townies be nervous?

On January 27 2016 13:08 _MexicanAlien wrote:
For PepperMintTea:
You said you think that Shapelog seemed "overexcited or nervous". If he was in fact town, why would he be nervous? He should be put off by accusations/scum observations. Also, what about being townie make him overexcited?
I can see how rolling mafia would make a noob overexcited or nervous.


Considering I read shapelog as town and these are the questions I was asked , my "rephrasing of the question" is in fact not interesting.


It appears you have not understood what I said and I apologise for that. Let me simplify things for you.

I don't know the exact reason behind ShapeLog being nervous or over excited. There could be many reasons, I gave a few. However I do think he came across as nervous or over excited, that is my opinion.

As a result of this it caused his haphazardous posting. In my opinion Haphazardous posting of that form typically comes from town.

hence my conclusion.

If you don't understand that then I feel sorry for you.

It's Occam's razor.
The best reason for the way he is acting is that he is Mafia.
And the most plausible reason for you excluding this very obvious solution is that you are Mafia too.

Yeah I am totally mafia with PepperMintTea. Totally because how I was the first person to make a mini case about her and i will totally push my scum mate into the lynch candidates (Kush/noon did talk about it, but he just asked questions and voted)
Yeah Totally Brah.


No offesne brah, but if I were your mafia teammate I would probably ask you to think up a case against me, simply because it probably wouldn't stick. Similar to what MexicanAlien said.

But Brah would you let me push you onto the radar to the townies?

You say you don't care about towncred. But it's also important for townies to actually read as town, since it makes it easier for the rest of the town to mafia.

My main scumreads are Trfel and Kuragari42 at the moment. I'm not sure what to think of Shapelog, but would also have expected him to calm down had he been town.

My problem is that I'm leaning scum on too many people right now. I'd very much like Jesus to elaborate on his reads. I'd also very much like Eden (who I'm leaning towards being town) to elaborate on the current state of his Onegu read.


Bumping question in case you missed it Shapelog. Do you really not care about towncred? Seems like an apathetic thing to say if you're town. If people are suspicious of you, and you're town, the town is wasting it's time and energy.


Not as a Initial concern, no i don't heavily care about town cred until D2ish time period. If someone TR's me and its BS i get concerned because they might be mafia.

And Town efforts aren't being totally wasted. As players takes stances on me, it can reveal things that might never have been reveal. If mafia player X sees a bunch of sus. thrown my way, X would write a case on me. X's case would not have come out if I care about town cred and lollypops. Also from what i've seen, mafia will push anything and everything, Even the most dumbest reasons.

Take Tumbleweed for example, his first post is about me. In his case he makes two, very bad, very sketchy claims on me. Now I or town can analyze this and lynch him, as he has a higher chance of being scum.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 28 2016 00:46 GMT
#629
On January 28 2016 09:34 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 09:32 Shapelog wrote:
I am here, Just got on. I found a dog in a trash can near my college and been running around seeing where it can receive help (it had a dislocated shoulder)

I am going to catch up. I see that Alur has questions so I will look at them.


If this is the case, I take back my previous statement lol. Interested in seeing your filter reads you talked about earlier

I posted thoughts on Onegu and PMT filters but these are out dated prob. by now.
Also posted that Ikon. Or who ever hasn't posted anything.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 28 2016 00:51 GMT
#631
On January 28 2016 08:11 nooniansoong wrote:
i dont want to give him tips for how to look more townie.

I agree with this train of thought. Even though I am not currently reading Eden as scum. It is more Pro-townie to hold it than to throw it out. A course i feel like it can't be that huge of a reasoning. If you thought Eden was scum and had enough of a reason to lynch he would get lynched. Oh well, Idk the reason and it is useless to think about it deeply for right now.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 28 2016 00:55 GMT
#632
Also to edit #626
Tumble is more likey to be mafia for pushing a read on me. And Mafia! Tumble (and possibly town tumble?) is forced into a "discard it and let him live" or a "Push and Hope" sense he took a side.

Or he is just town and posted the dumbest reasons given to him to call me mafia
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 28 2016 01:00 GMT
#633
On January 28 2016 08:26 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 08:22 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 28 2016 08:21 Trfel wrote:
I didn't have an opinion on Tumblewood until I checked his filter more carefully, and then I realized that I was missing some important things.

Like what? Be specific. You cited literal none of these "important things" when you voted him.
Of course not, he has to answer my question first. Then he gets to know why he's mafia

This

Trfel....

This?

This post makes me want to hit my head against the desk. It reminds me of how GB delayed his scum read on Kmatt by a hour just for a fucking dumb reaction test.

You better not/ not have disported.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 28 2016 01:13 GMT
#634
On January 28 2016 08:45 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 08:35 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 28 2016 08:26 Trfel wrote:
On January 28 2016 08:22 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 28 2016 08:21 Trfel wrote:
I didn't have an opinion on Tumblewood until I checked his filter more carefully, and then I realized that I was missing some important things.

Like what? Be specific. You cited literal none of these "important things" when you voted him.
Of course not, he has to answer my question first. Then he gets to know why he's mafia

What a cop out. I hate this.

I feel obligated not to press you further on this in the event I'm wrong and you're on to something.

But if I'm right and you're full of it, this is just giving you time to stall me out and avoid getting lynched.

If you're town you need to make a good faith effort to show me you're not full of it with this line of questioning. I read Tumblewood's filter and felt his suspicions of Shapelog were very consistent and understandable (though I disagree with them). This question looks very do-nothing, like a lot of your questions have been this game. And your flip in those posts I cited is really suspicious to me.

I'm trying to act in good faith and not screw up your play if you are town. Meet me halfway and give me a reason to believe you're not just hot air with this.
Eden, I'm trying very hard to not direct the thread. It's a newbie game, I feel like the new players should lead it.

Basically, I don't feel that Tumblewood actually cares about his scumreads. His filter seems to be contributing, but while it is contributing, it doesn't seem like he's scumhunting. He's always scumreading the top suspects, but not talking about them, either, which is probably the biggest example of this.

Trofl.... Idk even know anymore.
There are some weird things in this, lets break it down:
Eden, I'm trying very hard to not direct the thread. It's a newbie game, I feel like the new players should lead it.

I never like it when a player comes up with a reason on why they SHOULDN'T be directing the thread. It reads off as he is trying to use it as a excuse for why is filter is questions. Like it makes perfect sense for someone who wants to hide, say something like this and post questions that "help" (they do i'll admit) town.


Basically, I don't feel that Tumblewood actually cares about his scumreads. His filter seems to be contributing, but while it is contributing, it doesn't seem like he's scumhunting. He's always scumreading the top suspects, but not talking about them, either, which is probably the biggest example of this.

YOU LITERARY JUST SAID YOU WEREN'T GOING TO POST WHY YOU THINK HE IS MAFIA NOT 2 SECS AGO.

Did you really feel pressured enough by eden to post it? And if so why? I mean something about Eden had to make you go, "I need to post this." What was it?

As of Tumblewood. I need to read his filter to really understand fully what he is being scum read for by you guys (I have my own reasons) so I do that after i finish catching up.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
January 28 2016 01:17 GMT
#636
Oh cool Eden had a similar concern,
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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