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On January 29 2016 08:30 _MexicanAlien wrote: Long post incomingSo Alur is the first person to seriously scum read Kuragari + Show Spoiler +Alur: His initial series of posts suffered from being quite unoriginal, and his last set of posts throw flak on darthfoley for changing his opinion on things-.... he was once again not the first one to bring it up Alur's feel for Kuragari is that his play shows mafia indicators. Not exactly reason for voting. Alur:I'll just do this before I start my game, I think he's a better option atm.
##Vote: Kuragari42 Alur has been 'gone' after "switching to dota". He was gone for less than 15 minutes, and the first thing he does is vote on Kura? What seems to prompt this vote was a VC by LoneMeow. I think Alur was simply trying to stop the bandwagon on Onegu (4 votes at the time). Right after Alur votes, darthfoley does the same. + Show Spoiler +darthfoley:I'm more than fine with that.
##vote: Kuragari42 This looks to be a simple sheep, as darthfoley has agreed with all of Alur's scum read reasons. I suspect darthfoley was a little bit irritated at Kura's dumb read on him. OK so here I was interrupted by the stupid TL server telling me I need TL+ premium or some balony. Basically I feel the second vote was definitely for legit reasons, the first as well. As I'm on a phone the formats took forever to do and I'm tired.
you say it's a sheep. how is that a legit reason.
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The VCAs I'm reading kind of suck.
Something that is hurting VCA right now is too potential scummers didn't even vote.
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On January 29 2016 10:00 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 09:30 nooniansoong wrote:
The VCAs I'm reading kind of suck.
Something that is hurting VCA right now is too potential scummers didn't even vote. This is true. I have heard remarkably little from you regarding your current reads in the game. Mind sharing any?
Yes I mind. Braglist1.2 is not ready for release.
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Braglist 1.2
Tumblewood
JesusIncarnate
Ikidomari
Onegu
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On January 29 2016 10:24 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 08:53 darthfoley wrote:
but because I believe a very scummy player (JesusIncarnate or Tumblewood atm) was intentionally saved via the Kuragari wagon.
Possible. Personally I am town leaning Jesus right now because i doubt a First time mafia would stroll in and be that cocky. it isn't even a newbie thing to do, Just really weird. A course it is a tone thing, but his cockyness makes me think he is town. I admit his reads was a bit weak, but I still think he is town. Idk I check his filter in a few.
He's not new. And he was arrogant before the game even started.
On January 23 2016 11:15 JesusIncarnate wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2016 05:01 nooniansoong wrote:On January 23 2016 04:57 JesusIncarnate wrote:
i am not a smurf You obviously made an account just to play in this game. What is your story? Have you come from another mafia site or were you a tl lurker without an account who wanted to try mafia? I am a mafia grand master. I have come from multiple other mafia sites.
shape and trfel did you not know about this quote or did you forget it?
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Dunno why I'm towbreading tumble actually
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Eden made some really good cases and that is enough to townread him for
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I post explanations for some of my reads...
Anyway tumblewood looks Scummy and I haven't even read his latest post yet. He's Scummy for simply how and when he's posting.
Infrequent long posts not during eod.
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My jury's still out on tumblewood.
Townread on MexicanAlien for sticking with the vote on me even as the Kuragari wagon picks up speed.
Why
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Ikid do you have a typo in your read about me?
You said Jesus said fyi mafia Doesn't know the setup.
Did you mean I said that?
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MA, town is probably more likely to not defend themselves than scum.
You have to think a few levels deeper about this. Scum care more about looking town.
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On January 29 2016 20:11 Ikidomari wrote:
nooniansoong
Votes: PeppermintTea, Onegu, JesusIncarnate.
Total Votes: 3
[spoiler]Noon votes for peppermint simply because "I can't understand her reads", even though she explained her reads fairly well, I believe that she believes her reads. Posts 258, 260, 262, 267. Vote happened on 272. very early on
Unvotes because PMT made a good read, Is now very confident in her read, votes Onegu because of PMT
Noon makes a slight scum read on Jesus, Simply because Jesus calls Eden "stupid" and then Jesus says "Eden is u[ in the Air"- 519, again in 623
Votes Jesus in 646
Even though I agree with Noon's read on Jesus, I think his reasoning is weak, and he was just looking for someone to vote for.
Another thing I'd like to point out, Jesus points out that "FYI, Mafia doesn't know the setup" - 268, even though it is clarified in Post#2 by LoneMeow that Mafia WILL know the setup.
I think this is scummy as hell, it would be SO easy for a Mafia player to pretend they don't know the setup, and then get townread for not knowing that mafia know the setup.
this may be WIFOM but Noon seems scummy as hell for me.
Nooniansoong: SCUM
You are misrepresenting me. Let me clarify my reads then we'll see if you still think I'm scummy.
About PMT: What I didn't understand is her saying MA and Shape were talking a lot, nervous, and town. Those three things didn't fit together for me.
Talking a lot doesn't fit with nervous. Nervous doesn't fit with town.
About Jesus: He said Eden fell for newb scum tricks. Implicit in that statement is the assumption that Eden is town. Jesus later said that Eden was still up in the air. So if Jesus is making a statement assuming Eden is town, it does not make sense that his read on Eden is not also town.
About me not knowing that mafia knew the setup: What makes me not knowing as town less likely than me pretending not to know as scum? I agree you should't townread me for that but to scumread me for it is a stretch.
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On January 29 2016 22:22 Shapelog wrote:
Ikido.... There are so many crappy reads.
Big post picking apart Ikido reads.
please include a tldr
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On January 29 2016 22:38 Ikidomari wrote:
You were never a top scum to me, Onegu and Trfel are far and away my biggest scum reads, I'm willing to believe you're town for now.
thanks bro.
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@ikid
pmt - It wasn't clear to me she believed it. Why is it clear to you? Tone or something?
jesus - ok something made him suspicious of Eden, or so he claims, but then why did he write that Eden was tricked by scum? Only town can be tricked by scum.
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On January 29 2016 22:55 Ikidomari wrote:
jesus- I reread his post where he says that eden is falling for noob strats, then that eden is up in the air. I don't think it's unreasonable to say "this person is town or mafia, but if they're town, they're stupid because [x], even though he didn't word it like that.
This is a weird defense of Jesus considering you said this:
Unless he posts something really good in the next day, or someone else slips up real bad, my vote is staying with Jesus.
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OK ikid that's fair. You're off my scumlist.
Your onegu/trfel reads are based on them both being scum together. Generally, it's bad to make connection theories like that, especially on day 1. By basing an assumption on another assumption(assumption #1 onegu is scum, assumption #2 trfel is scum), you are compounding the chance that you are wrong.
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On January 30 2016 00:15 Shapelog wrote:
TLDR:
So in Summary:
He slandered Kush, and even contradicted himself.
I got him to recant his slander.
Calls Darth Town even though he jumped on his Top scum read's case (Trefl).
Why can't a town agree with a scum's case?
Lots of mentions to town Tumble, Even gives Tumble Town Cred for Not changing vote. Even though he wasn't there to change it.
To be fair I don't think he realized that. When you come into the thread after the fact and start filtering people, it's hard to know when people are saying things.
Tumble didn't vote for somone we now know is town. I can see why ikid would think that was town.
Focused only on Onegu actions with Trofl to pushed his own agenda.
onegu doesn't have much else to look at
And a bunch of other scummy crap.
Ikido is mafia
no
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I await your analysis on Tumblewood with bated breath.
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EPT
