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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 13:08 GMT
#2341
Idk, It sucks she is not here. I mean maybe the correct play is to No lynch.

But......Oh Shit if she does not show up she will get mod killed and we will lose if she is really town.

PMT gets mod kill 2v1 if she is not scum
Nk on me (because at that point it is MA) would make it 1v1

1v1 makes it a scum Victory.

Shitttttt.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 13:21 GMT
#2342
I revised PMT Filter, and i found 2 posts That now has me worried.
On January 28 2016 18:18 PepperMintTea wrote:
At this point I am fairly happy with these people in my town house. Darth,Shapelog,MexicanAlien,Alur,Eden.

Then I have nooniansong who honestly I haven't tried to read so far. I was aware that I may not be objective trying to read him as they were pushing me. Either way unlikely to get lynched and I have no reason to so just going to ignore that today.

Yesterday I listed who I would potentially lynch but I want to refine that list somewhat and give some more detailed reasoning.

Onegu - I mentioned early on that I was wary reading Onegu one way or the other. What struck out to me was an inconsistency on his read of me and the follow up. The relevant posts are given here.

+ Show Spoiler +


On January 28 2016 06:34 PepperMintTea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 06:30 Onegu wrote:
On January 27 2016 19:30 PepperMintTea wrote:
On January 27 2016 17:20 _MexicanAlien wrote:
I am starting to fully understand the townie reads on Shapelog. Good reasoning and critical thinking @Eden1892

Onegu has seemed slightly scummy, and he's definitely not a cooperative player.

There's still something sketchy about PepperMintTea in my mind though.


Can you explain what Onegu did that makes him scummy?


On January 27 2016 17:32 Onegu wrote:
On January 27 2016 17:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Ok I'll grant that you do say Trfel is scummy without much ambiguity near the end of the train of thought post. It's hard to count that for much when you apparently forgot that read in your response to me though.

And you named mex and tea reads just now but said nothing to that effect in the post. If anything you implied mex was scum. Your comments on tea and tumbleweed weren't clearly indicative of any opinion.

Do you care to explain these discrepancies?



What are you talking about?

You havent clearly read my big post have you. Tea I talk about alot when quoting kushs posts saying kush makes many good points and would sheep him. And I talk about my Tea read is effecting my Shape read. How the fuck did I imply mex was scum?


@Onegu

I'm rather curious how you have come to this conclusion, I think at one point you had me down as "scummy as hell".
The scum read is based on nooniansong's scum read of me. I hope that has been cleared up for you. But outside of this you defended me twice.


On January 27 2016 09:24 Alur wrote:
Oh and a question for PepperMinTea: You went out of your way to defend Shapelog, and you were somewhat spooked by MexicanAliens accusations towards Shapelog for vague reasons - but you townread him because "mafia aren't spooky this fast". You also townread Onegu.

Do you have any scumreads?

I'm a little sad that I didn't ask this question before he left. Ended up spending quite a bit of time on my entrypost.



Some people play the game by finding town reads and then doing POE from there this is NAI. The question is fine.

On January 27 2016 09:37 nooniansoong wrote:
Another point against pepperminttea: she was in the thread for a very short chunk of time. She did not linger before or after her post. This behavior can be caused by fear of exposing yourself too much.


Bleh. Can be caused by being busy...


I would be interested how having, one fairly weak scum accusation, and two reasons you stated are not good reasons. I have come out as scummy as hell. It seems inconsistent. Perhaps you have misunderstood something I wrote.



When people are scum reading scummy people for bad reasons I will point out they are bad reasons. I need to re read you to be honest. The fact that Noon is being dumb is making me trust he read less.

Much more interested in Trfel and Tumble now.

I will agree your point on Tumble is good.


Ok I can understand you pointing out bad reasons , can you tell me where "scummy as hell" came from , what are the very good reasons, you mentioned

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On January 27 2016 17:32 Onegu wrote:

You havent clearly read my big post have you. Tea I talk about alot when quoting kushs posts saying kush makes many good points and would sheep him. And I talk about my Tea read is effecting my Shape read. How the fuck did I imply mex was scum?


I am curious what these very good points are


On January 28 2016 06:54 Onegu wrote:

It was the whole stream of thoughts thing and you scum reading shape for it. I need to read your post on that.




Essentially he calls me "scummy as hell" based on the points raised by nooniansong but actually noon only raised one , pretty weak , point that Onegu agreed with.
Onegu also didn't read correctly, I had Shapelog as town and he said I was calling Shapelog scummy.

I want to read him one more time and see cases against him but ... i'd be ok lynching him at this point.


Tumblewood - I typically don't like early list posts the main thing is the Onegu read switch he came up with and how it came about. Essentially I find it hard to understand that he saw onegu do some towny stuff early, and make a good case but calls him scum. ..perhaps just sheeping thread opinion.
When you compare it to people he calls town and the reasons he gave there...

@Tumblewood - Can you explain what it is you didn't like about Onegu's big post, give some examples.

I need to read over his responses and I am aware that it is tempting to lynch someone you "caught out" just to seem clever... but at this point I would lynch Tumblewood,

Trefl - I liked Eden's catch about his flip flop on Tumble ... but I have nothing by myself and again I want to read things more carefully...I probably wouldn't lynch trefl though over anyone else in this list

The rest of the pack are basically inactives who I would happily lynch

JesusIncarnate - Superficial list posts early on with surface reads. No explanations or follow up. Woefully inactive
LYNCH

Kuragari - Inactive, got himself into a horrible mess trying to pressure darth which was just terrible. Felt like "talking just to talk"
Hasn't done anything else so would lynch

Iki - inactive for ever, then big list post. Seems to contain a lot of backdoors as pointed out by eden, played the newbie card. would Lynch.

I'm going to go over this at lunch, reading tumble and onegu and will give updates then

If you feel strongly about any of these or have further cases I would like to read them.

I have about 15 mins for questions.








Like she put both her scum mates here, which might just be because they were sus. at the time and she wanted to distance. But my prob. is (and maybe scott you can help here) if she was trying to distance, than wouldn't she try to focus more on THEIR reads then stuff like Jesus and X?

On January 29 2016 00:22 PepperMintTea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 00:16 Ikidomari wrote:
Hey guys, there's obviously a lot of heat on me right now, and I'm going to be around for about an hour or so before bed, if you'd like to ask me any questions feel free, if you want my thoughts on something let me know.
The next time I'll be active is my lunch break tomorrow (probably about 13-14 hours from the time of this post), and then after that will be when I get home from work (18-20 hours from this post).

I'll be as transparent as possible in my answers.


Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 00:18 Tumblewood wrote:
Just woke up... I have about ten minutes, maybe twenty to answer questions


The best thing the two of you can do is convince us you are town rather than just sitting there waiting to answer questions.

This is the second, I find scum would have a hard time trying to make a post like this (V.S. Posting it in the QT). It just feels outside the bag of reasonable scum plays.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 13:22 GMT
#2343
Fuck it i am ##:Unvote for right now.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 13:29 GMT
#2344
Idk maybe i am falling for WIFOM.

But i swear, it is going to SUCK if we lose because PMT would get modkilled (due to not posting this cycle).
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 13:50 GMT
#2346
Urggg 7 hours till we could potentially lose.
Really hope that PMT shows up.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 14:06 GMT
#2347
Actually ##:Vote PMT

By voting it will pressure her regardless of alignment.
That Pressure will than force her to post.
Her post will ensure that she can not get mod killed for not posting.
Her posts will also bring forth new information.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 14:10 GMT
#2348
[image loading]

This LYLO shit is scary when you are not a blue role with info to go off of lol.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 16:51 GMT
#2350
Is anyone here?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 17:02 GMT
#2351
If I wanted to, I actually can not not get PMT lynched because no one is here, and scott vote would overpower meh.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 17:58 GMT
#2352
Alright guys you can come out now.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 18:47 GMT
#2356
Guess who isn't here?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 18:54 GMT
#2359
On February 10 2016 03:48 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Just a tip for next time @Shape
Maybe you've already worked this out now, but even if she got modkilled, it wouldn't change anything. It would be the same as if we lynched her. She would either be town or scum. Same as lynch.

Oh yeah. Good point.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 19:02 GMT
#2361
If pepper does show up and it is not 30 mins till lynch i can unvote.

After that i will be driving home and idk if i get to a computer in time (or for that matter access the internet due to rain :/)
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 19:32 GMT
#2362
Funny thought.
If PMT does not come and post, could we not lynch MA? This would result and both of them dieing at the same time.

Could that even be done?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 19:39 GMT
#2364
But what about failing to vote & not posting during the cycle?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 19:42 GMT
#2365
Like honestly that would be the best thing to do if that is the case.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 19:46 GMT
#2368
So you and me vote for MA, Ma votes for PMT. if PMT comes you change votes (since i won't be here)

This would work right?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 19:48 GMT
#2370
Yeah
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 19:49 GMT
#2372
Fuck. Well if it does turn out to be the case. And i get on a cp quick enough. We can do it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 09 2016 22:40 GMT
#2399
Funny enough i was going to change my meta this game, regardless of alignment. I personally hate the spam myself.

Thing is, when you basically scum slipped non stop the first 10 posts into the game. You have to do anything to get town to believe you. I feared changing my meta with people like kush and Onegu (who has played with me b/4) was not the best route. Therefore, Spamming to 30 pages became my failsafe. If i slipped, no one would filter dive to see it.

Also Lylo was tough as balls. I still can not believe I talked town into a lynch instead of a no lynch. If they would of no lynched, I would of been so fucked if it did happen and had to NK. I do not know if I would of been able to talk myself out of "Why did MA/Scott get shot instead of you?"

Next game, I shall change and be more helpful and stuff.

GG to my fellow players and coachs. Special thanks to our teams Coach slam, and to Tumble and Ikido (honestly, if it was not for them we would of not won.)
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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