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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 27 2016 15:05 GMT
#441
Cuz if so.
Lynch Onegu.
Lynch Onegu.
Lynch Onegu.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 27 2016 15:06 GMT
#442
On January 28 2016 00:05 Shapelog wrote:
Cuz if so.
Lynch Onegu.
Lynch Onegu.
Lynch Onegu.
Oh, you were joking.

I liked this attitude

Also, I think someone had a question to me about my question to nooniansoong, I'm more than happy to answer it after nooniansoong answers. Answering now would defeat the purpose of my initial question.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 27 2016 15:07 GMT
#443
On January 28 2016 00:06 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 00:05 Shapelog wrote:
Cuz if so.
Lynch Onegu.
Lynch Onegu.
Lynch Onegu.
Oh, you were joking.

Fuck no, he is my #1 lynch for today
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 27 2016 15:10 GMT
#444
Onegu:

Please explain the mindset you are using in this specific game.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 27 2016 15:10 GMT
#445
I was joking though about mindlessly wanting him dead.
I am not Artnois lol
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
January 27 2016 15:11 GMT
#446
Got a bit of time over lunch to read through
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 27 2016 15:16 GMT
#447
On January 28 2016 00:10 Shapelog wrote:
I was joking though about mindlessly wanting him dead.
I am not Artnois lol
Uh, what?

Anyway, Eden, if you're scum, that move was extremely dirty and I won't be very happy with you [glares]
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 27 2016 15:17 GMT
#448
Artnois in Outlaw posted "Lynch Parmar " over and over again.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
January 27 2016 15:18 GMT
#449
nooniansoong, what is your read of PepperMintTea?
You voted to lynch her for the implied reasoning below:

"I can't understand her reads."

"she was in the thread for a very short period of time...."

Then you took back your vote because of PepperMintTea's "point against onegu".

What do you think about PepperMintTea now and why?
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 27 2016 15:18 GMT
#450
On January 28 2016 00:17 Shapelog wrote:
Artnois in Outlaw posted "Lynch Parmar " over and over again.
For the record, that was a joke based on something Palmar had done previously.

Anyway, if anyone has anything they want to talk about, I'll be here, but otherwise I'll probably do other stuff.
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 27 2016 15:24 GMT
#451
@Alur I am bad at expressing original reads.

SMITE
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 27 2016 15:24 GMT
#452
Trfel, i am guessing Onegu is a scum lean of yours (please correct me if i am wrong.) do you have anyone else for scum leans and why?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
January 27 2016 15:30 GMT
#453
On January 27 2016 21:14 nooniansoong wrote:
Pmt scum reads and why?


I have some players I want to investigate further before I give any true scum reads


Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 27 2016 15:33 GMT
#454
On January 28 2016 00:24 Shapelog wrote:
Trfel, i am guessing Onegu is a scum lean of yours (please correct me if i am wrong.) do you have anyone else for scum leans and why?
He's not a scum lean, he's scum But I'll give him a chance to explain himself, because my read accuracy isn't the best.

I'd probably look at Tumblewood and Alur next, but I'm pretty busy today, so I doubt I'll do that until the evening at the earliest.
PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
January 27 2016 15:44 GMT
#455
The discussion about Onegu-Shapelog has been a bit confusing to me. Some players are basing an onegu scum read on the fact that he should have been reading Shapelog as clear town rather than scummy, correct? However if you actually break down what Onegu has said.

On January 27 2016 06:39 Onegu wrote:
But serious Shape trying to meta read kush(nooninsong) before he even posts is weird as fuck.


On January 27 2016 07:08 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 07:03 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 27 2016 06:39 Onegu wrote:
But serious Shape trying to meta read kush(nooninsong) before he even posts is weird as fuck.

What exactly is weird about anything Shapelog did? Specifics please.



Like talking about someones meta before they even post is just so random. Like it was a joke at first then it went into real meta talk.


I don't think either of these statements are unfair. Onegu later qualifies the reason he doesn't have a clear town read as "could be mafia talking just to talk"

Now whilst this does fly in the face of something he said to me.


Then you should know new mafia in fourm are much less likely to post than town. Paranoia is a thing.


If that is a possible interpretation of shapes posting, I don't see why Onegu should have to have Shape as clear 100% town. It is possible Shape could be talking just to talk sure.
I personally believe shape is likely town based on his hyper activity but not all people have the same perspective.

I did look over Eden's argument and i'm not convinced. I do have other questions for Onegu but I think some people are getting carried away.

Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 27 2016 15:58 GMT
#456
@Trifl
Tumble had the case against me which was nothing more "he is calling himself scum" and giving a NAI statement about my meta tool on Kush. He hasn't done anything real townie, hell his activity drop is kinda of scaring.
Alur, while i have not read his filter, he has been actively solving the game and has paid attention to find a conflict in Darth reading on Onegu. He is leaning town for me Right now.
@PepperMintTea
My scum case doesn't revolve that.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
January 27 2016 16:05 GMT
#457
I want you to expand a bit more on these reads because they don't seem to have great explanations and I want to figure some things out.

On January 27 2016 22:04 JesusIncarnate wrote:
Good day lads. I already hate shapelog.

I think they're scum. Quite clear they are trying to make themselves seem incredibly towny. No fear of putting a target on their back either.

I mean, lol making a potential setup list is pointless.



I'm a bit confused why not being scared and trying to be towny makes you scum. Can you expand on this.






Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 08:38 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:30 PepperMintTea wrote:
Shapelogseems to strike me as overexcited or nervous. I also do not believe he is reading the game carefully enough and he just spouts whatever comes into his head. At first his read of "town lean on MexicanAlien" seems rather farfetched


This seems contradictory. Nervous people don't spout whatever comes into their head.

quite the twist on peppers post. I think they were trying to spout "helpful" stuff (ie: the potential rolelists)




I don't understand what you are saying here can you explain this.


i also like alur, there reads are pretty similar to mine.

tumblewood has kind of similar reads to mine, but he is null on pepper. So what the fuck are you doing boy?




Which reads specifically did you like and why

The reads on darth and trefl seem particularly lazy so perhaps you can add to those.


Onegu, scummy to me. Posting long essays mean nothing to me.



ok if a long essay means "nothing" why does that make onegu scummy. what has he done that makes him scum to you?


_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
January 27 2016 16:10 GMT
#458
On January 27 2016 18:03 PepperMintTea wrote:
....

To quickly answer a question I saw has come up a few times. Generally of the form "why does nervousness make him town?"
I don't know the exact reason. Maybe he is nervous about being mis-lynched, maybe he is anxious to get town read by other players. The point being it is easy to be nervous or anxious if you are a new player.
Whatever the reason, I viewed his haphazard posting as a result of over excitement and nerves and that this is typically town.

....




This may be late in coming but I think it deserves some thought.

I find it interesting how PMT rephrases this question. She says "why does nervousness make him town?", when more along the lines of what was asked is
"why would nervousness make him seem town?"
Or
"why do you think being nervous makes him town?"

It looks like PMT took it for granted that people thought Shapelog is town from that point on. She goes on to say

"I don't know the exact reason."

This "reason" is an opinion, not a fact! Shouldn't PMT be aware as to her own reasons for town reading Shapelog?

He is obviously not nervous about being mis-lynched, and not stressing about trying to prove his townieness.


PMT ends with the conclusion that Shapelog's "haphazardous posting is a result of his overexitment and nerves and that this is typically town."

THIS IS RIDICULOUS. Since when is overexitement and nerves a symptom of being townie ??

PepperMintTea is Mafia!
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
January 27 2016 16:21 GMT
#459
On January 28 2016 01:10 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 18:03 PepperMintTea wrote:
....

To quickly answer a question I saw has come up a few times. Generally of the form "why does nervousness make him town?"
I don't know the exact reason. Maybe he is nervous about being mis-lynched, maybe he is anxious to get town read by other players. The point being it is easy to be nervous or anxious if you are a new player.
Whatever the reason, I viewed his haphazard posting as a result of over excitement and nerves and that this is typically town.

....




This may be late in coming but I think it deserves some thought.

I find it interesting how PMT rephrases this question. She says "why does nervousness make him town?", when more along the lines of what was asked is
"why would nervousness make him seem town?"
Or
"why do you think being nervous makes him town?"

It looks like PMT took it for granted that people thought Shapelog is town from that point on. She goes on to say

"I don't know the exact reason."

This "reason" is an opinion, not a fact! Shouldn't PMT be aware as to her own reasons for town reading Shapelog?

He is obviously not nervous about being mis-lynched, and not stressing about trying to prove his townieness.


PMT ends with the conclusion that Shapelog's "haphazardous posting is a result of his overexitment and nerves and that this is typically town."

THIS IS RIDICULOUS. Since when is overexitement and nerves a symptom of being townie ??

PepperMintTea is Mafia!


I was asked the same question more than once and that is the general form.

On January 27 2016 09:17 nooniansoong wrote:


Why would townies be nervous?

On January 27 2016 13:08 _MexicanAlien wrote:
For PepperMintTea:
You said you think that Shapelog seemed "overexcited or nervous". If he was in fact town, why would he be nervous? He should be put off by accusations/scum observations. Also, what about being townie make him overexcited?
I can see how rolling mafia would make a noob overexcited or nervous.


Considering I read shapelog as town and these are the questions I was asked , my "rephrasing of the question" is in fact not interesting.

It appears you have not understood what I said and I apologise for that. Let me simplify things for you.

I don't know the exact reason behind ShapeLog being nervous or over excited. There could be many reasons, I gave a few. However I do think he came across as nervous or over excited, that is my opinion.

As a result of this it caused his haphazardous posting. In my opinion Haphazardous posting of that form typically comes from town.

hence my conclusion.

If you don't understand that then I feel sorry for you.
PepperMintTea
Profile Joined November 2015
187 Posts
January 27 2016 16:26 GMT
#460
I will wait 10 more minutes for questions then I need to get back to work.
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