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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 27 2016 22:20 GMT
#586
On January 28 2016 07:19 nooniansoong wrote:
I agree. Only reason I said it is if I'm I right I can brag about being right d1


I feel ya, lol. Still would be nice to have reasons.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 04:00 GMT
#660
@darth Your opinion on me did change, I will try to remember to find the posts tmr. You did flip sides on Alur as you admitted. You changed tones on Onegu, not necessarily lean.

You did read Eden for meta originally. There was no mention as far as I saw other than the meta read of why you town read him.

My phone is about to die so peace out until tomorrow. Left off at post #627.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 14:46 GMT
#764
On January 28 2016 13:22 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 04:02 JesusIncarnate wrote:
@Tumblewood

Shapelog is leaning more town now, but im not outright town-reading them. Other than that its the same. I do not feel confident in lynching Onegu however, the people on the vote are particularly shocking. I'll prob do filter posts when i have more time, as right now i can only read thread and type shit.


Okay Shapelog is now town, which is convenient, given that he hasn't provided any reason why his opinion changed (besides perhaps, the town consensus). But, the rest of his reads are the same, i.e. Onegu is the most scummy for him. But then he directly contradicts himself and comes off as wishy-washy regarding the Onegu lynch wagon, saying that the people voting him are shocking: (Trfel, Eden, Noon, Shapelog). This is pretty terrible.

I think JesusIncarnate is mafia


Now this post is pretty old and might have already been discussed but I don't want to continue reading and forget about it.

Other than the point about Jesus town reading Shape, this post seems to be pretty well thought out (I have not confirmed the posts yet, probably will later if further posts reveal nothing).

Now do one of these for each player, lol.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 15:48 GMT
#779
On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2.


But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment.

Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 16:43 GMT
#806
On January 28 2016 18:33 _MexicanAlien wrote:
PepperMintTea,
I would value your opinions and thoughts on the case I present in posts #711 and #712. Namely,

Eden1892 vs. Ikidamari ----> Eden1892 + Ikidamari


I am inclined to agree with you about it looking bad on Eden. He jumped pretty freely from one person to another especially since, as an experienced player, he should know not to let "the feels" affect his vote.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 16:46 GMT
#812
On January 28 2016 18:42 PepperMintTea wrote:
Got to get to work, this game is rather addicting.


Damn straight.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 17:06 GMT
#825
On January 29 2016 00:55 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2.


But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment.

Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit.

Rofl. What doc? How can you be sure this is setup A) or C)?


Goof on my part. I just remember someone saying something about NK's being weird due to a doc.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 17:18 GMT
#830
On January 29 2016 01:01 Alur wrote:
Yeah that's what I was insinuating. Another explanation is him making the slip as doc, but I'd think that's a lot less likely to happen than a scumslip. And even if both doctors and mafia are equally likely to make that slip its a 75% chance of being mafia (assuming this is not a townie who's extremely ignorant of the rules). The fact that he's already being scumread doesn't help either.


50/50 = 75/25
I enjoy that logic.

No clue what rule you could be referencing.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 17:21 GMT
#832
On January 29 2016 01:38 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 00:55 Alur wrote:
On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2.


But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment.

Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit.

Rofl. What doc? How can you be sure this is setup A) or C)?


This is so god damn bad. Either you're doc and you just outed yourself, or you're mafia and let slip that we're playing either A or C. There's a 3/13 chance your mafia, there's a 1/13 chance you're doc. And you're scummy as hell

##Unvote
##Vote: Kuragari


Oh, I see where Alur got the higher mafia chance.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 17:29 GMT
#839
On January 29 2016 01:41 Alur wrote:
That's not what I meant. My point is simply that I would expect a town player who's under a large amount of scrutiny to not talk about terms, which is 100% filler talk if the term is easily googleable. I remember newbscum Darth talking about googleable terms in his first game.

It's not something to scumread a person on exclusively, but it's something I took note of.


I was not able to find NAI on google, just saying.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 17:33 GMT
#841
On January 29 2016 02:08 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 02:06 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 29 2016 00:55 Alur wrote:
On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2.


But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment.

Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit.

Rofl. What doc? How can you be sure this is setup A) or C)?


Goof on my part. I just remember someone saying something about NK's being weird due to a doc.

Who said this and where?


No clue who it was, and pretty early on.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 17:40 GMT
#847
On January 29 2016 02:21 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 02:18 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:01 Alur wrote:
Yeah that's what I was insinuating. Another explanation is him making the slip as doc, but I'd think that's a lot less likely to happen than a scumslip. And even if both doctors and mafia are equally likely to make that slip its a 75% chance of being mafia (assuming this is not a townie who's extremely ignorant of the rules). The fact that he's already being scumread doesn't help either.


50/50 = 75/25
I enjoy that logic.

No clue what rule you could be referencing.


"Even if both doc/mafia are equally likely to make the slip" = each of the 4 people are equally likely to make a slip

there are 3 mafia + 1 doc = 4 people. 3/4 of those people are mafia; therefore, it is a 75% chance of lynching mafia IF you believe, like Alur and I do, that you slipped... especially when we have been scum reading you


Yeah, my bad.

Still no clue about the rule.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 17:59 GMT
#859
On January 29 2016 02:50 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 02:40 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 29 2016 02:21 darthfoley wrote:
On January 29 2016 02:18 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:01 Alur wrote:
Yeah that's what I was insinuating. Another explanation is him making the slip as doc, but I'd think that's a lot less likely to happen than a scumslip. And even if both doctors and mafia are equally likely to make that slip its a 75% chance of being mafia (assuming this is not a townie who's extremely ignorant of the rules). The fact that he's already being scumread doesn't help either.


50/50 = 75/25
I enjoy that logic.

No clue what rule you could be referencing.


"Even if both doc/mafia are equally likely to make the slip" = each of the 4 people are equally likely to make a slip

there are 3 mafia + 1 doc = 4 people. 3/4 of those people are mafia; therefore, it is a 75% chance of lynching mafia IF you believe, like Alur and I do, that you slipped... especially when we have been scum reading you


Yeah, my bad.

Still no clue about the rule.

The rule we're referencing is the rule about how the game is played on 1 out of 4 possible setups.

Explained here by the host: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/502408-newbie-student-mafia-xix#2



Oh, didn't know that qualified as a rule. I was aware of it but

Crap, teach tapping my shoulder..
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 19:10 GMT
#893
On January 29 2016 02:59 Kuragari42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 02:50 Alur wrote:
On January 29 2016 02:40 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 29 2016 02:21 darthfoley wrote:
On January 29 2016 02:18 Kuragari42 wrote:
On January 29 2016 01:01 Alur wrote:
Yeah that's what I was insinuating. Another explanation is him making the slip as doc, but I'd think that's a lot less likely to happen than a scumslip. And even if both doctors and mafia are equally likely to make that slip its a 75% chance of being mafia (assuming this is not a townie who's extremely ignorant of the rules). The fact that he's already being scumread doesn't help either.


50/50 = 75/25
I enjoy that logic.

No clue what rule you could be referencing.


"Even if both doc/mafia are equally likely to make the slip" = each of the 4 people are equally likely to make a slip

there are 3 mafia + 1 doc = 4 people. 3/4 of those people are mafia; therefore, it is a 75% chance of lynching mafia IF you believe, like Alur and I do, that you slipped... especially when we have been scum reading you


Yeah, my bad.

Still no clue about the rule.

The rule we're referencing is the rule about how the game is played on 1 out of 4 possible setups.

Explained here by the host: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/502408-newbie-student-mafia-xix#2



Oh, didn't know that qualified as a rule. I was aware of it but my mind didn't remind me of the fact that there were not doctor's in all the options while I was typing out that post.



Finished my post from earlier.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 19:12 GMT
#895
On January 29 2016 04:02 nooniansoong wrote:
Braglist version 1.1

2. Tumblewood
3. JesusIncarnate
4. Alur
7. Ikidomari
9. Trfel
10. Onegu
11. _MexicanAlien


You figured out that there are atleast 7 players in the game.

Bravo.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 19:18 GMT
#901
I have like 15 minutes and then I will not be able to get on before the deadline. I will post a quick summary of my reads if I don't get called out by a teach again.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 19:25 GMT
#908
I am a town aligned vanilla.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 19:33 GMT
#916
READS:

Slight Town:

PeppermintTea - While I am not in complete agreement with everything they have said/done, I have gotten a pretty steady townie vibe from them.

Trofl - While originally his questions bothered me and made me lean slightly scum, I now see that each of them had a point.

Shapelog - His reads/refutations are sort of out-of-the-box yet still have sense and I am in agreement with a lot of his logic.

darthfoley - I was suspicious of his early game but I did not scum-read him, I just wasn't content with the strong town-reads on him. Quite a few of his posts mid-game were pretty good. I'd say if this list was ordered he would be pretty low TR.

Slight Scum:

Eden - His posts are not aligned with how I expect a experienced town player to post. Pretty low SR.

Tumblewood - Several of this guy's posts make little sense to me but the people that were attacking/defending (and the way they were doing it) him make him a low SR.

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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 19:37 GMT
#919
Got kicked off the comp, posted early to switch to phone. Hopefully can finish reads.
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Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
January 28 2016 19:52 GMT
#924
Continued reads...

Slight Scum:

Ikidomari - His posts seem contorted and I tend to find lynch begging a scum (or at the very least anti-town) thing to do. This also fits in with my slight scum read on Eden if Shape's recent lines of post are correct.


Town Lean:

Mexican, noon, Onegu.


Scum Lean:

Alur.


I honestly have no clue:

Jesus.

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