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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 01:43 GMT
#1614
@shape.
yup all his town reads are turning up to be town.
so all his scumreads are probably scum.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 01:49 GMT
#1617
On February 01 2016 10:47 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 10:28 nooniansoong wrote:
and trfel he wasn't trying that hard to survive, he had a 2 page filter.
Filter length and desire to survive versus intentionally being bussed as part of a plan are very different things. I have shown why at least initially, Ikidomari was NOT planning on being bussed, and was attempting to survive.

Again, if you'd like to DISCUSS, that is more than welcome. If you'd like to say that I am wrong just because you feel like it, I don't care to discuss with you.


We aren't talking about being bussed. we are talking about bussing. Just because he wasn't planning on being bussed doesn't mean he didn't bus himself.
He was acutely aware that there was a great possibility of him being lynched both d1 and d2.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 02:03 GMT
#1620
On February 01 2016 10:55 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 10:49 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 01 2016 10:47 Trfel wrote:
On February 01 2016 10:28 nooniansoong wrote:
and trfel he wasn't trying that hard to survive, he had a 2 page filter.
Filter length and desire to survive versus intentionally being bussed as part of a plan are very different things. I have shown why at least initially, Ikidomari was NOT planning on being bussed, and was attempting to survive.

Again, if you'd like to DISCUSS, that is more than welcome. If you'd like to say that I am wrong just because you feel like it, I don't care to discuss with you.


We aren't talking about being bussed. we are talking about bussing. Just because he wasn't planning on being bussed doesn't mean he didn't bus himself.
He was acutely aware that there was a great possibility of him being lynched both d1 and d2.
Okay, that actually makes some sense. Thank you.

I guess I'm a bit biased because I know that I'm town and that Onegu was town, so I know that at least 2/3 of his scumreads were town. But that's not something that you know.

At least this is better than the "you are scum because you can't possibly think this" after I share all my reasons for thinking this, and you don't say anything about my reasons.


I did look at your reasons, and I said they made no sense, and I said why.
I didn't present them in a way that asked for a response from you, because I'm not trying to figure you out. I've already done that.
I don't want a defense from you. It's actually easier to look townie when you are defending yourself, as shown by ikido. From my perspective, the only thing you defending yourself is going to do is possibly convince the other players that you're town.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 02:08 GMT
#1621
On February 01 2016 11:00 Trfel wrote:
Does anyone else think it's funny how often Eden has brought up his going back and forth with darthfoley last game?

And how adamant Eden and Ikidomari are that they can't be scum together?


no.
and no.

Going back and forth with darth last game is relevant because he did the same thing with ikido. Why wouldn't he bring it up as town?

He's adamant he can't be scum with Ikido because he sees himself as the principle pusher of ikido, which actually he was. There was a very complicated interaction with him in which he scumread ikido and then he didn't and then he did again. It's tinfoily to say that's scum vs scum.
Then there's the fact that he brought up of how he could have easily killed you rather than ikido today if he were scum.

Do you expect townEden to say "well I suppose I could be scum with Ikido"? Maybe but it would be kinda weird.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 03:10 GMT
#1627
Mexican it doesn't mean much revel voted ikido.
If you believe my scumteam ikido, jesus, tefel, those were the only realblymch candidates so there wasn't really a mislynch for him on the table.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 10:45 GMT
#1709
Damn Eden have some decorum please. Ma is a newbie and he believes you're scum but he's not trying to piss you off. Your attitude got really shitty back there.

What we just witnessed was trfel buddying Eden. It wasn't pretty. Basically trfel sat there validating all of edens shitty ideas and made him feel smart.

Trfel scumslipped here.
On February 01 2016 13:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 13:00 _MexicanAlien wrote:
On February 01 2016 12:56 darthfoley wrote:
I think the lack of useful discussion is something to be mindful of. Don't think it's simply random


Oh so like the scum are getting edgy because their teammate just got lynched, and now they want to promote useless talk. Makes sense, good thinking
Basically every time that the thread is toxic, it's caused by town. Any game.

To both of you.

He's calling Eden town. This was while he was still supposedly scumreading Eden. Before Eden started posting a lot to make him look more townie.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 12:16 GMT
#1711
Ma please lynch Scott if town doesn't have the balls to lynch trfel.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 14:53 GMT
#1725
On February 01 2016 23:06 darthfoley wrote:
Anyone disagree with a Tumblewood lynch today?

Besides Tumblewood of course

I disagree with it strongly.Tumble is lynchbait.
Scott is inactive scum. I think he's going to continue doing as little as possible to stay null.
Trfel is tryhard scum.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 14:55 GMT
#1726
On February 01 2016 15:04 darthfoley wrote:
Ironically, I was very close to shooting Kush over Onegu. Darn


DUDE do I did last game to you? This is ridic.
If you shot me that would have been the worst fucking shot of all time. You should have shot jesus but onegu wasn't bad.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 15:04 GMT
#1727
*dude do i look like last game to you
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 15:22 GMT
#1732
Shape, let's talk man to man.
You know when you have a scumteam in mind, and you are SO sure of it. Except then you're usually wrong.
That's how I feel, but I know I'm right. All my mafia experience and everything in this game is pointing to me being right.
I try to recognize my own confirmation bias and eliminate it. But in this case I know I'm right more than I've ever known anything in mafia ever.

I need your support in lynching scott or trfel. Scott might be an easier lynch, and it will implicate trfel due to how hard he's defended him.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 15:44 GMT
#1735
[QUOTE]On February 02 2016 00:32 Shapelog wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 02 2016 00:22 nooniansoong wrote:
Personally (I am going to spoil this part of my Behavior post), I think Tumbledore is more mafia. But i would not rule out S2S. However, from a behavior stand point. Tumble is more mafia.

You could buy me over. But a lot of what i need to see is S2S posting.
[/QUOTE]

S2S posting is not gonna happen. If it does it's not going to be anything you can get a read off of. That's the scumteam's plan. That's why trfel is making the argument "we only have 1 mislynch left, we can't lynch an unknown."
OH really? So it's better to save him until mylo?

Can you point to a succinct case against tumble I can respond to?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 15:45 GMT
#1736
On February 02 2016 00:36 Shapelog wrote:
Like Kush, if we lose and those people are mafia. I will change my little tag thingy on the bottom to anything you want.


sweet. this makes the idea of losing much more bearable.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 15:53 GMT
#1741
On February 01 2016 06:57 Trfel wrote:
Also, you do realize that we only have one mislynch, right? I wouldn't say that lynching someone for being useless is a good idea.


So you want to save him for mylo then.

And he's more than just useless. He's completely inactive.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 16:19 GMT
#1744
On February 02 2016 01:08 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 00:04 nooniansoong wrote:
*dude do i look like last game to you


Does the game look like last game to you? You didn't lose your roleblocker on D1 like last time. I would actually be very disappointed in you if you were mafia, got 3 townies killed/shot/lynched, and weren't playing more active. The circumstances of the games are quite different, and you know that.


i know this is self meta so that from it what you will, but I hate playing scum. The joy of this game for me is finding the scum, not lying to people and pretending to believe things I don't. As scum I can usually do a decent job d1 if I want to, but after that I just can't bring myself to care.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 17:10 GMT
#1746
On February 02 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:
Kush lets talk tinfoil sexy man to tinfoil man,
How sure are you in your feeling, or are they just stirings? Like on the scale of how much you like a person. with feelings being you want them to stirings being they are cute.


um what lol...
I could not be more certain.
And I have reasons. Tons and tons of reasons, which I've been sitting in the thread harping on since d2.
THe biggest point against trfel though is the reasons behind his reads look fake.

Let me go find your case against tumble so I can address it.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 17:18 GMT
#1748
@shape where's your case on tumble
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 17:20 GMT
#1749
On February 01 2016 16:44 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Wow. Yeah. I'll have to think about this. Good investigative hypotheses @Eden. Very deep. Very deep.

On February 01 2016 21:09 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Hey guys I might not be around for the night end.

I think the mafia is:
Eden1892
Trfel

Scum lean:
scott31733
Tumblewood

Town:
darthfoley
Shapelog

Unknown: nooniansoong

I think this contradiction is too obvious to be scummy.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 17:23 GMT
#1752
On February 02 2016 02:21 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2016 02:10 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 02 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote:
Kush lets talk tinfoil sexy man to tinfoil man,
How sure are you in your feeling, or are they just stirings? Like on the scale of how much you like a person. with feelings being you want them to stirings being they are cute.


um what lol...
I could not be more certain.
And I have reasons. Tons and tons of reasons, which I've been sitting in the thread harping on since d2.
THe biggest point against trfel though is the reasons behind his reads look fake.

Let me go find your case against tumble so I can address it.

One hand i want to help a tinfoil brother.
On the other hand i want to win the game, so lynching my scum read is important.

I think about it ok.


dude it's not tinfoil. it's based on solid scumhunting, and it's supported by connection theories.
help me help you get there. where the fuck is that tumble case. your filter is huge.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 01 2016 17:25 GMT
#1754
thats so hard to read because of fucked up quotes
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