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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 14 2016 23:12 GMT
#16
yo can you send out the role pms already so i can decide if i wanna ragequit or not?

too soon?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 00:18 GMT
#26
a former oregon coach is now the coach of the dumpster fire 49ers; finally i can consolihate. great day.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 00:30 GMT
#28
why does your tongue spit such venom?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 00:57 GMT
#32
wat the fuck is going on?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 01:04 GMT
#35
i nothing him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 02:02 GMT
#47
Let me tell you a story about something I encountered yesterday.

This is a story about a man and his pride.

Pride in this sense is being used for its negative meaning. Commonly pride can be used to refer to a sense of satisfaction or attachment to something, but not in this case. Rather we are using it in the sense of an inflated sense of self.

The serious thing about pride is that it can cause someone to make irrational decisions or decisions that have much larger consequences out of a misplaced sense of the situation.

This is where yesterday falls flat. As Aristotle taught us, pride can be both a virtue and a vice. As such marv rolled an alignment that he felt uncomfortable playing as, and rather than acquiesce to the powers at be he stood up for what he believed was right and what he had pride for: his town play. He refused to be forced to bend to the whims of an RNG machine for the amusement of others.

The hosts punished marv for being virtuous.

#FreeMarv
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 02:04 GMT
#48
Fellow believers, support me in:

The Free Virtuous Marv Petition:
1. ritoky




If you too feel that men and women should not be punished for being virtuous reach out to me for support.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 05:26 GMT
#66
so is this game continuing? or?

cuz it kinda feels like you showed up to your restaurant reservation for your date only to get a call from your girl 15 minutes after you were supposed to meet asking if you can just do it tomorrow instead.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 05:30 GMT
#68
could be, his big post is hot trash.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 21:19 GMT
#141
man that re-roll really has fucked me. dunno what it is about it. i was in the mood, then it has just jarred me out of the mood. am struggling to get into this game and i thought stepping away and sleeping would change it but it hasn't.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 15 2016 21:27 GMT
#147
in terms of game stuff i think hf and ve are town

there's also a vast difference in palmar and rayn's interactions which suggests to me that rayn probably isn't mafia unless he is with palmar.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 16 2016 20:38 GMT
#310
i kinda wanna sheep VE this phase
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 16 2016 20:45 GMT
#313
not mafia, just not particularly feeling motivated after the re-roll and the way the game started.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 16 2016 20:50 GMT
#317
not really. people who encourage others to lynch them are town 50% of the time, the vigi 48% of the time, and mafia 2% of the time.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 16 2016 20:51 GMT
#318
On January 17 2016 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 00:51 Holyflare wrote:


Hateful eight was a great movie btw.


i was in love with it for 2 hours, then disappointed in the sudden tonal shift into splatterhouse even though i knew it was coming. the tension and subtlety was amazing though
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 16 2016 23:29 GMT
#434
i am here now, i haven't read much since my last post. i tried to then i saw more shit fighting and got de-motivated again.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 16 2016 23:34 GMT
#439
why is nm town damdred? i got no read on him cuz i have always just been mafia and known his alignment before this.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 17 2016 09:46 GMT
#521
gonna make something to eat and then put some effort into this game i suppose.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 17 2016 09:56 GMT
#522
this message goes out to any vigis or cops out there. i don't think my interest level in this game is going to come back because of the way it started/ended; if you think that's going to be a detriment to town going forward or you don't like the reads i am about to post then just shoot or check me. i will flip town, but if questions about the guy not doing enough is gonna ruin town more than shooting a townie then it's probably just worth it to resolve me 1 way or the other.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 17 2016 10:07 GMT
#523
town (no particular order):
ritoky

VE - similar thoughts at similar times and cuz of this post and in particular the question that i think never comes from mafia:

On January 16 2016 01:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: Trfel

So let's assume for now that ritoky is never getting lynched today. Let's further assume that you could only kill one of three people, and those three people are the MOST active people in the game so far. Which one would you lynch and why?


damdred - shitting on nm for giving me any town cred and being feisty; peacekeeper damdred is mafia damdred

hf - mod shit, can't help himself read, and best case made in the game so far:

On January 17 2016 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
A lot so much is mafia.

1. Says rayn has rayn logic and it's not bad but decides to go against rayn's case and still call me town. TMI.

2. Says trfel looked bad but then says trfel looks a lot more towny but still votes trfel.

3. Says that case from rayn on trfel always existed and that's why he was voting trfel but doesn't make sense just after he says trfel looks more towny.

4. Says votes on me and trfel are a good 2 wagons...? Even though he started to tr trfel and has always tr me.

5. Says votes on me good because I'm scummy but for no reasons.

6. Asks why I haven't backed down on trfel so trefl looks good after flip but I've never been on trfel.


Aka convenient tmi in posts (to tr rayn, me), surface level (no reasons whatsoever) to scum read people, and no logical progression other than opportune wanting to be on current wagons.



ace - saw the potential scum slip i saw when reading through the game

On January 17 2016 08:46 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 08:44 NocturneMage wrote:
On January 17 2016 08:34 Trfel wrote:
On January 17 2016 08:29 NocturneMage wrote:
On January 17 2016 08:20 Trfel wrote:
@NocturneMage, I am ignoring geript and Palmar (and AlotSomuch) because I am not sure about them, and because you are mafia

I felt that Palmar is town for meta reasons, but I should probably look again at Assassination Mafia, my meta could be incorrect.


I'm not, and when I flip town, where will you go after that?

Also IIRC Palmar's meta is finding mafia day 1 or being scum for not progressing the game. If you maintain he's town for meta reasons and he's policy lynching HF over a scum read (you) and you're town, why would you be townreading him?

Or if your understanding of his meta is different from mine, then what is it?
I don't know. I'm starting to remember some things that make me less sure that you are mafia, though, so I really need to look into that more.

My perception of Palmar's meta is that as mafia he is serious and as town he is not. Basically just that, but relative to Palmar's play. That's why he was mafia in Outlaw Mafia (to me, anyway), because overall he was serious and actually playing the game as it's intended to be played.

To answer your previous question, I did read the thread (if a bit quickly, there's some time pressure...), and I read your posts. And I still think that you are mafia, though I'm double-checking that read. Yes, I found several things about your more recent posts suspicious, but I don't share every suspicious thing that I see unless I feel that there is a point to it.


Here's the thing, the reason I'm asking you this is accountability. You're driving a mislynch one way or another.

DYH I can't tell at the moment if he's town having a bad read on me because he's just not been in this game or if he's mafia trying to get the easiest ML he can manage.

And Trfel if you are town, then I think you're not entirely accurate on the Palmar meta. He trolled the shit out of people in Outlaw, and in Down Under 3 from obsing I recall him being more serious yelling at people who didn't follow him. It's a faulty reason to town him in your worldview.


the fuck? clarify


rayn - cuz i made that 1 read early about the way palmar was talking to rayn and how it was different and how rayn is only mafia if palmar is too, oh and he made a post in all caps.

mafiaish:

NM - see scumslip above, tmi knowing both wagons = town

geript - usually shits town on my face when town, face clear of feces, so mafia lean

mafia:

alotsomuch - cuz hf case is good

any questions?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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