• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:57
CET 17:57
KST 01:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool43Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion Soulkey's decision to leave C9 JaeDong's form before ASL
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group B 2026 Changsha Offline Cup [ASL21] Ro24 Group A ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3484 users

[M][I] Rayn let's be nice Invite Take 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 03:19 GMT
#49
Well you could have just PM'd the hosts HF since it seems like you were here 15min before the game start...
I am sorry, especially for Ace. I guess this is not a good idea after all.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 04:10 GMT
#52
On January 15 2016 12:20 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well you could have just PM'd the hosts HF since it seems like you were here 15min before the game start...
I am sorry, especially for Ace. I guess this is not a good idea after all.
Are you not planning on continuing the game?

what's the point when Holyflare has basically confirmed his alignment?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 04:18 GMT
#54
Yeah so like he is telling the truth and he is town --> in which case the game is invalid.

Or he is mafia --> in which case we should 100% lynch him.

Soooo... in any way, the game is invalid.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 04:22 GMT
#56
Although i would be perfectly willing to play the game 9vs3 and remove HF. But then again now i think you, Trfel, are scum because of your argument on HF and the lack of thinking on the matter and that is out of game WIFOM case and that's also invalid.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 04:42 GMT
#60
I think he is probably town because you are scum.
Now you are aggressive instead of involved.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 04:57 GMT
#61
In other words i think you are trying to make something out of nothing because... because of Holyflare the whole first page of this game is nothing and can't possibly be alignment indicative.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 05:08 GMT
#63
umm.. because you call ritoky mafia for things that doesn't make him mafia?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 05:24 GMT
#65
It's not "meaningful conversation"..
Also we were supposed to have D&D tonight Damdy..
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 05:27 GMT
#67
idk, i am playing until said otherwise.
I think Trfel is scum.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 07:11 GMT
#76
fuck it let's play mafia.
geript why am i scum?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 07:24 GMT
#80
trifle.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 07:33 GMT
#83
On January 15 2016 16:28 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 13:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 15 2016 12:20 Trfel wrote:
On January 15 2016 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well you could have just PM'd the hosts HF since it seems like you were here 15min before the game start...
I am sorry, especially for Ace. I guess this is not a good idea after all.
Are you not planning on continuing the game?

what's the point when Holyflare has basically confirmed his alignment?

This post basically says you're scum. The initial reaction is "HF is town." But any reasonably player especially you, who knows HF will do anything and everything alignment regardless, should realize that HF is completely NLA. The funny thing is that as I was thinking about it more, the more HF posts about that shit the more I think he's mafia. He has some actual goal as town even when he's bitching.

But Trfel is like really likely to be scum and you tend to react to your scummates slightly differently.

no it doesn't.

If you think HF would lie about stuff and relate it to MOD ACTIONS you can get lynched too....
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 07:37 GMT
#84
Also why aren't you voting for me if the post says i am scum?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 07:55 GMT
#88
ugh...
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 08:16 GMT
#90
So now i am supposed to think you, as town, were making a plan AND you were also annoyed when you made the couple of your first posts?

I tend to think people post whatever comes to their mind OR if they are making a plan they have a clear head. So i am going to assume you are lying.

##vote: Holyflare
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 12:27 GMT
#99
Let me elaborate properly:
These are your first two posts:
On January 15 2016 09:08 Holyflare wrote:
/out

On January 15 2016 09:10 Holyflare wrote:
maybe you shouldn't start new games before getting the permission from the people you're putting in them

#protipsforhosting

I believe you that you were annoyed. I do not question that for a second.
However when you were writing this, i also believe you are in full intention of not playing this game, and you are not lying. That is what your posts literally say here.

Now obviously you have changed your mind after that. I don't know where, and i don't care. Might be at the next post, might be after, it is not relevant. What is relevant is the following:
On January 15 2016 16:54 Holyflare wrote:
Basically I did what geript said and elongated the whine to fulfill my dastardly plan of gathering information. Also because I was a tad annoyed.

Will be around for like 30 mins while I travel so this is your chance to talk to me.

I can't believe this post is the full truth. Because your first two posts are a dick move. I assume you realize that. Now in case you wanted to ACTUALLY play properly, at that point, i assume you would have made post like "i am fucking annoyed because i wasn't asked if i want to play in the re-roll, but whatever.. i will try to play. fuck you all."

Instead of saying this you continued with the host bashing. Which brings me to the following conclusion:
1) If you are town you made a dick move, and you are now lying, because if you were not lying about your motives you would be a confirmed town based on the third post you made.
2) You are mafia.

Now i don't think you would make such a dick move, and funnily enough, if you wanted to make yourself look more townie to me, you would have to accept you were lying at some point, and it again -- points towards you being mafia... So if you are town you should have cleared up the issue BEFORE now, clearly, BEFORE people like me come to conclusion that you want to quit the game. Like really, i thought that was 100% the case, ritoky seemed to think that, Ace probably too, some people from the obs QT -- maybe even more people from the obs QT since why the fuck otherwise are there people who are not in the game posting in the thread?!?! Hell i believe even the HOSTS thought that was the case since apparently Artanis felt the need to CLARIFY in thread the game is still ongoing....

So... If you are town the game is invalid because to prove you are town you would need to prove you were lying, which would make you mafia. You can argue that i am scum and doing whatever you decide you want to say but my opinion here is not going to change since the ONLY way the game is not invalid in my opinion is if you are scum.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 12:30 GMT
#101
On January 15 2016 21:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
OMG is it just me or was Holyflare just trying really really hard to be funny and rayn is being ridiculous about it?

seems like even the obs qt and hosts were "being ridiculous about it" if that is the case...
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 12:33 GMT
#102
I don't feel the need to explain this any further to anyone.
I also don't feel the need to explain myself any further to anyone in case someone thinks i am mafia for this.

I just don't care. So don't ask me anything about this, i said all i had to say.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 12:37 GMT
#104
Well i think Trfel is mafia.
But no, noone claimed scum already-
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 15 2016 12:47 GMT
#105
On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:
Meh, here goes nothing.

AlotSomuch is town

Show nested quote +
On January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair
I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation.

This is even more crappy read than the one on ritoky to be honest.
I don't think there is any way Trfel to come to this conclusion as town because this post basically says that Alot's actions are townie because he would not want to aggravate town!Holyflare (which he doesn't even necessarily think is the case here -- since this reads post, orhis other posts doesn't include a townread on Holyflare). Not to even mention Alot has never played with Holyflare earlier so there is no reason to think the thought process is legit in the first place EVEN IF Holyflare was town.
table for two on a tv tray
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 3m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 331
elazer 124
Trikslyr59
Rex 37
Codebar 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 20471
Calm 5056
Shuttle 3233
Bisu 1983
ggaemo 812
Larva 784
Mini 636
Soma 484
Stork 463
BeSt 382
[ Show more ]
firebathero 313
Light 307
Snow 260
Rush 250
Leta 238
EffOrt 238
ZerO 219
actioN 186
PianO 171
Dewaltoss 110
Zeus 80
Mind 63
Sharp 52
HiyA 38
Free 34
Barracks 29
sorry 28
Movie 19
IntoTheRainbow 15
soO 15
ivOry 11
Sacsri 10
Terrorterran 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Dota 2
Gorgc7693
Counter-Strike
fl0m1572
ceh9436
byalli341
edward150
adren_tv49
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK14
Other Games
Grubby1959
singsing1881
FrodaN913
hiko781
B2W.Neo659
DeMusliM292
Liquid`VortiX150
crisheroes142
Hui .139
QueenE104
Sick101
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream39
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV260
League of Legends
• Nemesis4507
• TFBlade870
• Shiphtur389
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
7h 3m
Replay Cast
16h 3m
Afreeca Starleague
17h 3m
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
18h 3m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
KCM Race Survival
1d 16h
The PondCast
1d 17h
WardiTV Team League
1d 19h
OSC
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Platinum Heroes Events
3 days
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
4 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
OSC
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-23
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.