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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 14 2016 20:34 GMT
#12
I hope I roll mafia because otherwise the game will be a onesided affair.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 14 2016 23:03 GMT
#14
On January 15 2016 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
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On January 15 2016 05:34 Palmar wrote:
I hope I roll mafia because otherwise the game will be a onesided affair.

It's ok dude - your team won't autolose just because you roll town.

good joke.

where do you live?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 15 2016 11:56 GMT
#96
##vote Holyflare
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 15 2016 13:27 GMT
#107
still salty I see
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 15 2016 13:37 GMT
#108
btw, trfel is mafia and the reason is this:

On January 15 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote:
Meh, here goes nothing.

AlotSomuch is town

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On January 15 2016 09:09 AlotSomuch wrote:
Think you missed your chance there HoleyFlair
I don't feel like this is a post that is natural for mafia to make. In addition to taunting Holyflare, he intentionally messes with his name. Assuming for the moment that Holyflare is town, scum doesn't want to aggravate Holyflare unnecessarily, doing so in this case has no mafia motivation.

ritoky is mafia

Ritoky's play doesn't make much sense from a town perspective. He seems to be very disinterested in the game, instead of enjoying it, while implying that he's a bit involved. He's very willing to engage in banter, and answers questions about the game, but he doesn't do anything at all to further the game.
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On January 15 2016 09:18 ritoky wrote:
a former oregon coach is now the coach of the dumpster fire 49ers; finally i can consolihate. great day.
He completely ignored all of the thread at the time. I would have expected him as town to directly address Damdred.
On January 15 2016 09:59 Damdred wrote:
People having 0 respect for a game going on basically. Hf will swap but if you aren't oh the players list just not right.

Anyway rit what do you think of say hf? More than likely town?
On January 15 2016 10:04 ritoky wrote:
i nothing him.
On January 15 2016 11:02 ritoky wrote:
Let me tell you a story about something I encountered yesterday.

This is a story about a man and his pride.

Pride in this sense is being used for its negative meaning. Commonly pride can be used to refer to a sense of satisfaction or attachment to something, but not in this case. Rather we are using it in the sense of an inflated sense of self.

The serious thing about pride is that it can cause someone to make irrational decisions or decisions that have much larger consequences out of a misplaced sense of the situation.

This is where yesterday falls flat. As Aristotle taught us, pride can be both a virtue and a vice. As such marv rolled an alignment that he felt uncomfortable playing as, and rather than acquiesce to the powers at be he stood up for what he believed was right and what he had pride for: his town play. He refused to be forced to bend to the whims of an RNG machine for the amusement of others.

The hosts punished marv for being virtuous.

#FreeMarv
On January 15 2016 11:04 ritoky wrote:
Fellow believers, support me in:

The Free Virtuous Marv Petition:
1. ritoky




If you too feel that men and women should not be punished for being virtuous reach out to me for support.

Mocking Holyflare doesn't do anything to move the game forward, and isn't really funny, either. Ritoky doesn't try to actually get involved or talk to anyone.

The clincher is this post:
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On January 15 2016 09:57 ritoky wrote:
wat the fuck is going on?
Which indicates a surprise of the state of the game. Ritoky doesn't seem to be enjoying the game, as his posts feel very uninspired and flat. Yet he doesn't do anything to further the game. This post:
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On January 15 2016 10:04 ritoky wrote:
i nothing him.
suggests that ritoky is thinking about reads this game, but doesn't follow Damdred's lead to get the game started at all.

##vote ritoky


There is literally no way that someone believes he found mafia, but is still so unexcited about it that he puts some random shitty townread first in the post.

It's so unenthusiastic that I could cry
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 15 2016 13:37 GMT
#109
hf is mafia too because I want to lynch him.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 15 2016 14:54 GMT
#112
On January 15 2016 22:48 Holyflare wrote:
Um no rayn you're dumb. I can tell you my plan whenever I feel like it, I don't have to do it in some guidelines that you lay out, especially when I was asleep and it was impossible.

This game is also dumb because artanis confirmed me as town so do what you want with that info. If I was mafia there would be no confusion and it just looks like a mafia rage quit tactic. Now I'm confirmed town.

Deal with it bro. You need to stop living in black and white details because I definitely haven't lied once this game.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 15 2016 21:32 GMT
#150
alot is just bad or troll

I am never changing my vote from HF while he's being a little bitch. If I change it, it'll be to trfel who is mafia.

I prefer lynching little crying bitches over mafia though.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 16 2016 15:37 GMT
#212
we're 100% lynching hf and shooting trfel

I'm not really gonna read anything until they're both dead.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 18 2016 11:55 GMT
#667
what happened here? Why did people quit?

Also hf pls so bad lynch me when afk on a weekend.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 18 2016 13:30 GMT
#673
to be honest, invitational games tend to be awful.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 18 2016 13:41 GMT
#675
Ok warning, rambling rant.

The thing is, people put completely unreasonable expectations into invite games. Invite games tend to be bad because it's usually filled with a bunch of people who mostly just show up because of the prestige of having been invited. I'd much rather play with 8 newbies who still think lying as town is a good idea than a bunch of salty, lazy veterans.

I get it, rayn wanted to have a nice game. He wanted a game where he could play with everyone actually trying. But the problem is, you simply cannot have such a game on demand. It's basically impossible.

A player who signs up for a game does so because he genuinely wants to play. A player who is invited is mostly just dragged into the game.

Yes, the overall quality of the people invited to invite games tends to be relatively high, but half of us have obligations or are afk so the end result usually is worse than when you have a bunch of enthusiastic people who for some reason have still not been added to the invite lists.

I also just don't like the exclusivity, I think the game is way too complicated for anyone to make a call on who should be invited and who shouldn't.

Let's not do too many of these in the future pls.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 18 2016 14:36 GMT
#679
On January 18 2016 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
Of course you should, I only agreed to replace into the first game because it was starting and I was asked to /in last second. If it could have been that you got more people for a reroll I would have gone on the replacement list again.

I also didn't have time to see a reroll and contact you since I had my pm already.

Either way I stuck it out and people spammed the thread from obs and while the host message wasn't intended to be directed towards me it wouldn't have necessarily been posted if I was mafia. Rayn sure took my posts and the obs spam and the host message to mean I was town at least. You should be requesting bans for those people.


hf will you address your bads pls it's very important 2 me
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 18 2016 14:41 GMT
#682
On January 18 2016 22:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 22:41 Palmar wrote:
Ok warning, rambling rant.

The thing is, people put completely unreasonable expectations into invite games. Invite games tend to be bad because it's usually filled with a bunch of people who mostly just show up because of the prestige of having been invited. I'd much rather play with 8 newbies who still think lying as town is a good idea than a bunch of salty, lazy veterans.

I get it, rayn wanted to have a nice game. He wanted a game where he could play with everyone actually trying. But the problem is, you simply cannot have such a game on demand. It's basically impossible.

A player who signs up for a game does so because he genuinely wants to play. A player who is invited is mostly just dragged into the game.

Yes, the overall quality of the people invited to invite games tends to be relatively high, but half of us have obligations or are afk so the end result usually is worse than when you have a bunch of enthusiastic people who for some reason have still not been added to the invite lists.

I also just don't like the exclusivity, I think the game is way too complicated for anyone to make a call on who should be invited and who shouldn't.

Let's not do too many of these in the future pls.

Apart from this failure - how do you come to this conclusion? I think invite games are a pretty good (if not the only) solution if you are tired of people signing up and not playing the game because you cannot avoid those people otherwise. For example (and I don't think using this one is mean): if coag signs up for a game I immediately think twice about joining it - not because I hate him or anything but because I know he will be dead weight regardless of his alignment. You can't realistically keep him from joining because wisdom of the crowds is not really a thing. So you have to pray he doesn't join the games you want to play in.
Sure there might be problems when people have an ego and aren't invited but you have to keep in mind that the one who organizes the game is in charge of the invites (and rightfully so) so the choice of players will always be subjective. This is not an "official TL game for the best players". This is a round of mafia someone decided to organize to have a game with the people he wants to play with.


It's just an experience thing. My overall feeling is that none of the invite games I've played in have been anywhere near the quality of the good normal games that I've played.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 18 2016 14:42 GMT
#683
@Artanis, if hf is not going to address his bads, will you do it for him pls?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 18 2016 14:46 GMT
#686
On January 18 2016 23:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 23:42 Palmar wrote:
@Artanis, if hf is not going to address his bads, will you do it for him pls?

I have no idea what you mean with his bads, but I refuse because lynch palmar.

I want him to talk about why so bad he is

pls
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 18 2016 14:49 GMT
#690
On January 18 2016 23:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 23:41 Palmar wrote:
On January 18 2016 22:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 18 2016 22:41 Palmar wrote:
Ok warning, rambling rant.

The thing is, people put completely unreasonable expectations into invite games. Invite games tend to be bad because it's usually filled with a bunch of people who mostly just show up because of the prestige of having been invited. I'd much rather play with 8 newbies who still think lying as town is a good idea than a bunch of salty, lazy veterans.

I get it, rayn wanted to have a nice game. He wanted a game where he could play with everyone actually trying. But the problem is, you simply cannot have such a game on demand. It's basically impossible.

A player who signs up for a game does so because he genuinely wants to play. A player who is invited is mostly just dragged into the game.

Yes, the overall quality of the people invited to invite games tends to be relatively high, but half of us have obligations or are afk so the end result usually is worse than when you have a bunch of enthusiastic people who for some reason have still not been added to the invite lists.

I also just don't like the exclusivity, I think the game is way too complicated for anyone to make a call on who should be invited and who shouldn't.

Let's not do too many of these in the future pls.

Apart from this failure - how do you come to this conclusion? I think invite games are a pretty good (if not the only) solution if you are tired of people signing up and not playing the game because you cannot avoid those people otherwise. For example (and I don't think using this one is mean): if coag signs up for a game I immediately think twice about joining it - not because I hate him or anything but because I know he will be dead weight regardless of his alignment. You can't realistically keep him from joining because wisdom of the crowds is not really a thing. So you have to pray he doesn't join the games you want to play in.
Sure there might be problems when people have an ego and aren't invited but you have to keep in mind that the one who organizes the game is in charge of the invites (and rightfully so) so the choice of players will always be subjective. This is not an "official TL game for the best players". This is a round of mafia someone decided to organize to have a game with the people he wants to play with.


It's just an experience thing. My overall feeling is that none of the invite games I've played in have been anywhere near the quality of the good normal games that I've played.

Shadow Game was pretty high quality

I didn't play so I doubt it. I am literally highest quality.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 18 2016 14:50 GMT
#691
Maybe I'm just salty I didn't get invited (
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 18 2016 15:54 GMT
#699
On January 19 2016 00:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 23:36 Palmar wrote:
On January 18 2016 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
Of course you should, I only agreed to replace into the first game because it was starting and I was asked to /in last second. If it could have been that you got more people for a reroll I would have gone on the replacement list again.

I also didn't have time to see a reroll and contact you since I had my pm already.

Either way I stuck it out and people spammed the thread from obs and while the host message wasn't intended to be directed towards me it wouldn't have necessarily been posted if I was mafia. Rayn sure took my posts and the obs spam and the host message to mean I was town at least. You should be requesting bans for those people.


hf will you address your bads pls it's very important 2 me


I badz but you got lynched so you more badz. When you are town you need to look towny and play to the people in the game. It's not all about being wrong.

wow this wisdom.

I will tattoo on my butt
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
January 18 2016 16:39 GMT
#707
On January 19 2016 01:17 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2016 23:41 Palmar wrote:
On January 18 2016 22:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 18 2016 22:41 Palmar wrote:
Ok warning, rambling rant.

The thing is, people put completely unreasonable expectations into invite games. Invite games tend to be bad because it's usually filled with a bunch of people who mostly just show up because of the prestige of having been invited. I'd much rather play with 8 newbies who still think lying as town is a good idea than a bunch of salty, lazy veterans.

I get it, rayn wanted to have a nice game. He wanted a game where he could play with everyone actually trying. But the problem is, you simply cannot have such a game on demand. It's basically impossible.

A player who signs up for a game does so because he genuinely wants to play. A player who is invited is mostly just dragged into the game.

Yes, the overall quality of the people invited to invite games tends to be relatively high, but half of us have obligations or are afk so the end result usually is worse than when you have a bunch of enthusiastic people who for some reason have still not been added to the invite lists.

I also just don't like the exclusivity, I think the game is way too complicated for anyone to make a call on who should be invited and who shouldn't.

Let's not do too many of these in the future pls.

Apart from this failure - how do you come to this conclusion? I think invite games are a pretty good (if not the only) solution if you are tired of people signing up and not playing the game because you cannot avoid those people otherwise. For example (and I don't think using this one is mean): if coag signs up for a game I immediately think twice about joining it - not because I hate him or anything but because I know he will be dead weight regardless of his alignment. You can't realistically keep him from joining because wisdom of the crowds is not really a thing. So you have to pray he doesn't join the games you want to play in.
Sure there might be problems when people have an ego and aren't invited but you have to keep in mind that the one who organizes the game is in charge of the invites (and rightfully so) so the choice of players will always be subjective. This is not an "official TL game for the best players". This is a round of mafia someone decided to organize to have a game with the people he wants to play with.


It's just an experience thing. My overall feeling is that none of the invite games I've played in have been anywhere near the quality of the good normal games that I've played.


wtf is an invite game this is the only one I ever saw. sick sample size


there's been plenty of them

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