[M][I] Rayn let's be nice Invite Take 2

On January 15 2016 10:04 Trfel wrote:
/out

On January 15 2016 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So now i am supposed to think you, as town, were making a plan AND you were also annoyed when you made the couple of your first posts?

I tend to think people post whatever comes to their mind OR if they are making a plan they have a clear head. So i am going to assume you are lying.

##vote: Holyflare

On January 15 2016 16:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:

no it doesn't.

If you think HF would lie about stuff and relate it to MOD ACTIONS you can get lynched too....

On January 16 2016 23:15 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn tell me where I lied

On January 17 2016 00:36 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, do you think that Holyflare as town wouldn't care enough to not push his reads?

On January 17 2016 00:47 Damdred wrote:


Basically it's nai because the same argument could be made either way tbh.

Could hf do it as scum? Yes. Could he do it as tpwn? Possibly more 're than likely

Hf to my knowledge likes to play as scum and town so yeah

On January 17 2016 00:48 Trfel wrote:
I'm not sure. You're known for your extremely aggressive play as mafia. However, it feels like not pushing your reads makes more sense from mafia than from town to me right now.

If there's something I'm not understanding, please enlighten me. I'm not good at mafia, but I'm trying to figure things out, and it would be great if you helped me here.

On January 17 2016 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I also think there is a vigilante.

On January 16 2016 23:15 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn tell me where I lied

On January 17 2016 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I have already said where i think you are lying.

On January 17 2016 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
unless you ofc for some reason want to do a countdown to EOD -1 hour.

On January 17 2016 01:21 Holyflare wrote:


Explain it again then trash panda. What did I lie about. Why aren't you trying to get me lynched if i obviously lied and am mafia.

On January 17 2016 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I don't think i can explain that more clearly than i already did.
I believe you had an intention to quit the game. You claim otherwise.
I don't believe you, i don't believe you in that you had on intention to quit the game when you made your first two posts.

As you claim you didn't, it naturally makes the post that says " /out " a lie, or it makes the post where you say you didn't have an intention to quit a lie. Now i don't believe this because if you are town it's a fucking dick move and i don't want to believe you made a dick move. It's a dick move as mafia too, but it's a bit less of a dick move.

It's a dick move because you are talking about shit that doesn't have anything to do with playing a mafia game, and if you are town there is no reason to expect you are lying (there really isn't as mafia aswell given your rl situation), but still. If you are town it confirms you as town if you are telling the truth.

The game is fucking invalid if you are town and i dont' wanna play an invalid game, i'd rather start on D2 with 8vs3. Because if i believe here, that you are telling the truth and town -- then you are fucking confirmed town and nothing you or anyone ever does is gonna change that opinion.

Yes, i am not 100% certain you are mafia, you could also be a dick. But i am voting for you since, again, if i believe you are town here, you are confirmed town and the game is invalid.

On January 15 2016 16:52 Holyflare wrote:
Well initially I was annoyed and then I didn't like that ritoky and damdred didn't respond to anything meaningfully or even post responses and so I wanted to vote damdred for not even engaging me = mafia.

But then trfel came and posted that post which was ridiculous.

##vote trfel

And I would absolutely write everything i wrote as mafia so anyone even thinking it makes me an alignment is dumb or mafia (trfel).

On January 17 2016 05:12 Damdred wrote:
Am I still scum btw hf?

Nm I thought 've explained himself well what didn't you like?

On January 17 2016 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So what, there is now 4 scum? Me, NM, ritoky and Palmar?

On January 17 2016 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Holyflare, do you realize it's YOUR actions that made ritoky and Palmar (and others like Cephiro, Ace and me for example) not care about the D1 as much as we should/could? Yes, i have intentionally not wanted to post in this game for that reason at times. Do you understand that YOU gave a perfect excuse for anyone to just do what at least five people did in case they are mafia, because it's and expected outcome from people -- you can't even argue against it because we all can't possibly be mafia.

I understand everyone who haven't given fucks about the D1, because i feel the same.
So yeah, deal with the consequences then... Or what do you suggest we do? Lynch Palmar who can very well do this as town? IF he flips town, then what? Lynch ritoky? When he flips town too? Can we then lynch you? Because it's essentially YOUR fault they are playing like this (or well..not playing).

Because guess what... i suggest we lynch you since there is a high chance you are scum and in the worst place you flip town and then the people can't hide behind "i won't play because Holyflare" regardless of their affiliation.

Don't blame anyone for what you did yourself...

On January 17 2016 04:34 Holyflare wrote:


Holy shit you're dumb. I never ever said those posts were a lie. Ever. I did not want to play in this reroll. Those posts are 100% genuine. I saw damdred's reaction was non existent and continued posting whine to see if it would continue. It didn't.

On January 17 2016 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because i don't wanna talk with you about my read on you.
I don't care what you say about it. I don't care if you try to defend yourself.
I just don't care.

On January 17 2016 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:

then why are you in the game?

On January 17 2016 07:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DO YOU HOLYFLARE UNDERSTAND YOU ARE SAYING YOU DID WANT TO QUIT FROM THE GAME AND CONTINUED USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE TO "MAKE READS" INSTEAD OF SAYING "NO I DIDN'T ACTUALLY MEAN THAT, I WILL PLAY". THIS RESULTED IN HALF OF THE PEOPLE NOT GIVING ANY SHITS ABOUT THIS GAME, THIS RESULTED IN TWO PEOPLE FROM THE OBS QT TO POST IN A THREAD THEY SHOULDN'T. THIS RESULTED IN THE HOST CLARIFYING YOU ARE NOT ACTUALLY IN INTENT OF QUITTING THE GAME.

YES, I DON'T EVEN FUCKING THINK YOU ARE MAFIA BUT YOU DESERVE TO DIE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET MODKILLED.

On January 17 2016 08:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hmmmm....If it were anyone but Holyflare I'd probably let that slide.

Holyflare you're going to have to give me a really fast really compelling reason to let you live after that.

On January 17 2016 09:49 Damdred wrote:
For someone who yells and complains about how shitty games are here with players who don't care. Doing something as shitty as this and turning an invite game into a total war zone is horrible.

Hf idk what the point was baiting rayn but it's whatever.

The game is unpleasant I should of been mod killed didn't even get a warning so I guess I'm confirmed town at least

On January 17 2016 23:33 Holyflare wrote:
Eh don't think alot is so mafia-y after reading his VS games. Also jesus how do people play mafia on these badly formatted websites.

On January 17 2016 10:28 Holyflare wrote:
Hello... hello...hello

On January 18 2016 05:46 Ace wrote:
I dont know most of you so I have no clue how you play but something isn't right here. Technically I should be one of your first suspects. I "pushed" the Palmar wagon and didn't vote. As scum this would be an easy way for me to blame the Palmar voters and waste Town time debating people that would lead to mislynches.

And yet some of you missed this entirely and are treating me like confirmed Town.

Something is screwed up with the people talking about suspects right now. If I have more time tonight I'll actually read the thread instead of posts that happen when Im around. But please look at the what I said.

On January 18 2016 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Holyflare
Be good or be bad. I have said everything i wanted to.

See here. Read the green and the red part very carefully:
- People not engaging me for non-alingment indicative stuff is scummy.
- People engaging me for non-alignment indicative stuff is also scummy.

On January 17 2016 01:49 AlotSomuch wrote:
Caught up; I assume a smurf is a secondary account for an existing player?
I'm less confident on my trifle read right now, as the rest of his play today has been more on point and town. And I actually like his case on HoleyFlair. Still feel he is a good secondary wagon for right now, especially with no vote changer roles. Anyone feel like telling me about Palmira's town/scum tells?
And has Cephire even posted?

So Holyflare is just bitching for no reason --> it makes people not wanna play (which is proven alrady). Now he is bitching about people not wanting to play? heh.... well make your own conclusions but the red quoted part is (1) a lie, and (2) a scummy lie.

On January 15 2016 16:54 Holyflare wrote:
Basically I did what geript said and elongated the whine to fulfill my dastardly plan of gathering information. Also because I was a tad annoyed.

Will be around for like 30 mins while I travel so this is your chance to talk to me.

So Holyflare has been bitching about the days not aligning with him in comparison to the first game.
In the first game he had a total of 3 posts in the first 16 hours in the game.
In this game he has ~100 posts in 3 days, it makes it ~16.666posts EVERY 12 hours.
"Days not aligning".. ?

So Holyflare is just bitching for no reason --> it makes people not wanna play (which is proven alrady). Now he is bitching about people not wanting to play? heh.... well make your own conclusions but the red quoted part is (1) a lie, and (2) a scummy lie.

On January 18 2016 09:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Except for Palmar, Cephiro, Damdred and ritoky.
Shit that was half of the game.
People who are alive of those can actually CONFIRM this!

On January 18 2016 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
Who in this game kills ace?

I think only rayn and ve.

On January 18 2016 09:53 Trfel wrote:
I did a lot of research but it doesn't matter any more. Sorry NocturneMage.

There was one key thing that made me really hesitant to shoot Cephiro instead.

On January 17 2016 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hmm let's do it this way:

I am either:
Vigilante and i will shoot Trfel/Holyflare.
If i am not Vigilante i am mafia in which case, if you are a vigilante, you should shoot me.

On January 18 2016 23:36 Palmar wrote:

hf will you address your bads pls it's very important 2 me

On January 18 2016 23:53 Damdred wrote:
The last invite game I was in was fun. And before the rwroll this one would of been good I think.

Idk what happened hf tried to get under rayns skin, rayn took it out on the game. We lynched palmar

It was sadness