[M][I] Rayn let's be nice Invite Take 2

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DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 15 2016 05:58 GMT

#71

Town again. Good night.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 16 2016 17:22 GMT

#268

Apologies for the long AFK. Catching up. This is a 3-day weekend for me so my availability will be much better.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 16 2016 19:05 GMT

#294

My read is that Trfel is likely town, and is certainly not scum w/ HF. Damdred also town.

HF is definitely a dick this game, either alignment. I particularly dislike that he tells us he would totally say what he did as mafia, then start claiming, "I'm mod confirmed town" at us. I'm kinda with rayn in wanting him gone for WIFOMing outside of game and host actions but I honestly have no idea what he will flip. Is he anti-town? absolutely. Is he trolling? absolutely. What does that mean for his alignment? I don't know.

I townlean rayn, but I'm a bit cautious of him since it seems kind of clear to me that Trfel and HF aren't mafia together, and that is what rayn has been pushing.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 16 2016 22:48 GMT

#401

@NM- how are you feeling about a HF lynch right now?

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 16 2016 23:05 GMT

#419

Well I guess my question doesn't matter anymore.

@Trfel, I agree with you that NM has a good chance of flipping scum. Let me gather up my thoughts to try and convince people.

##Vote: NocturnMage

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 16 2016 23:30 GMT

#436

So my thinking for a scum NM basically comes down to these two points, which tie together.

1. Strange approach to HF and rayn. NM's initial read is that their scumming eachother was town on town. NM is scumreading Trfel. NM isn't trying to convince people off of the very likely to be lynched HF when he has a townread on HF. Particularly strange since he also has a townread on HF's prime pusher, rayn. It is even stranger when the secondary wagon which has momentum is Trfel.

2. Something that NM was advised of last game by HTS after-the-fact was that something he does as town is to call out when people are using things to call others scum that do not make them scum. The lack of him doing that was one of the ways she was sure he was scum. This game, he is doing that. But he isn't doing it to stop a push on HF.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 16 2016 23:35 GMT

#440

To clarify point 2. In this game it looks like he is calling out bad reasons to call others scum as an end in itself, not as a means to something. Which points to focusing on appearance, which is scummy.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 16 2016 23:58 GMT

#475

On January 17 2016 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Everyone who is town on Palmar you guys are lynching a townie right now.

##unvote
##vote trfel

You are lynching town.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 17 2016 00:05 GMT

#493

-_-

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 17 2016 00:07 GMT

#497

I voted to save Trfel

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 17 2016 00:08 GMT

#499

Wasn't going to waste my vote leaving it on NM when one of my townreads was going to by lynched for it.

DoYouHas

United States1140 Posts

January 18 2016 16:56 GMT

#708

@NM, I think where I went wrong reading you is that the only time I've seen you as town was when you replaced in D2 and you already had a strong read. I wasn't giving you fair context. Picking out mafia was very hard this D1 so my thinking about your townie habits being only for show is all undercut because you were probably feeling the same uncertainty I was. The only legitimate point I think I had was is that it is strange that you would townread HF and then just let Rayn and Palmar sit on him without any action from you.

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