I suggest that the vigilante shoots me.

I will make sure i will explain in full detail why both Trfel and Holyflare are scum before the night ends and i will also find the third scum. It's probably geript but some of the votes are so fucking terrible i am not sure. Then you can actually trust my reads. This is not WIFOM.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 17 2016 00:29 GMT

#504

Hmm let's do it this way:

I am either:
Vigilante and i will shoot Trfel/Holyflare.
If i am not Vigilante i am mafia in which case, if you are a vigilante, you should shoot me.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 17 2016 00:29 GMT

#505

now afk for reals for 23 hours.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

January 17 2016 00:35 GMT

#506

Lol rayn funny guy

Damdred

15669 Posts

January 17 2016 00:49 GMT

#507

For someone who yells and complains about how shitty games are here with players who don't care. Doing something as shitty as this and turning an invite game into a total war zone is horrible.

Hf idk what the point was baiting rayn but it's whatever.

The game is unpleasant I should of been mod killed didn't even get a warning so I guess I'm confirmed town at least

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

January 17 2016 00:50 GMT

#508

A lot so much is mafia.

1. Says rayn has rayn logic and it's not bad but decides to go against rayn's case and still call me town. TMI.

2. Says trfel looked bad but then says trfel looks a lot more towny but still votes trfel.

3. Says that case from rayn on trfel always existed and that's why he was voting trfel but doesn't make sense just after he says trfel looks more towny.

4. Says votes on me and trfel are a good 2 wagons...? Even though he started to tr trfel and has always tr me.

5. Says votes on me good because I'm scummy but for no reasons.

6. Asks why I haven't backed down on trfel so trefl looks good after flip but I've never been on trfel.

Aka convenient tmi in posts (to tr rayn, me), surface level (no reasons whatsoever) to scum read people, and no logical progression other than opportune wanting to be on current wagons.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

January 17 2016 00:53 GMT

#509

There's your free mafia and my only giving a shit that you'll get.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

January 17 2016 00:55 GMT

#510

On January 17 2016 09:49 Damdred wrote:
For someone who yells and complains about how shitty games are here with players who don't care. Doing something as shitty as this and turning an invite game into a total war zone is horrible.

Hf idk what the point was baiting rayn but it's whatever.

The game is unpleasant I should of been mod killed didn't even get a warning so I guess I'm confirmed town at least

He's very annoying that's why.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

January 17 2016 01:28 GMT

#511

Hello... hello...hello

Trfel

7015 Posts

January 17 2016 01:39 GMT

#512

Hi, Holyflare.

Thanks for the description of why AlotSomuch is mafia, I hadn't thought of it like that. I'll take a closer look this evening.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

January 17 2016 01:59 GMT

#513

On January 17 2016 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hmm let's do it this way:

I am either:
Vigilante and i will shoot Trfel/Holyflare.
If i am not Vigilante i am mafia in which case, if you are a vigilante, you should shoot me.

My name is VisceraEyes, and I approve of this message.

AlotSomuch

95 Posts

January 17 2016 02:00 GMT

#514

Ok, not actually sure what happened with the Palmer wagon that appeared out of nowhere at the end of the day...
As for HoleyFlair's little post:
Point 1: I said Rayn's logic made sense the way Rayn goes step by step, not that he was necessarily right, but it wasn't a scummy trying to make up something logic. I said that you seemed legitimately upset about having to play another 24 hours and seemed towny. Neither of these have actually been proved true or false yet, so I'm not quite sure how this is TMI since you are both still alive.

Point 2: I said Trifle was the scummiest. Later I did find he was making some better posts, and his case on you had some good points. I said I still felt he was the scummiest though, and that was where I was leaving my vote.

Point 3: When Rayn asked me if I disagreed with his case because I was somewhat less confident in my Trifle vote, I read back through the day and found where he posted about trifle's post that both he and I had issues with (for both some shared and some different reasons). I looked that up because Rayn asked me if I no longer agreed with it. As previously stated, I thought that post was really bad, still did, still do, and just thought he had some better posts after, but those didn't cover up the post.

Point 4: The wagons are on you and Trifle. I think trifle is the most suspicious, but admit that trifle has made some good points on you. If VE actually put his vote where he said it was going, the votes would be tied, and if Rayn kept going in the direction he was, I got the feeling he was actually going to switch to Trifle. Yet even so, my thought was that if you did happen to get lynched and flipped mafia, which I probably would have given like a 30% chance at that point, Trifle would be very towny and that'd be great. If you flipped town, then I'd push even more for Trifle day 2. Also, how can I have always townread you if in Point 3 you point out that I start seeing the logic in some of the points against you made by trifle?

Point 5: I already pointed out that I agreed with some of the points brought by Trifle, which to elaborate were that you were showing 0 motivation to solve the game, making random votes with little reasoning behind them and absolutely 0 followup, and just baiting Rayn. You had 0 interest in finding who was mafia, and just voted however.

Point 6: I swear I remember more, but there was definitely this:
"Well initially I was annoyed and then I didn't like that ritoky and damdred didn't respond to anything meaningfully or even post responses and so I wanted to vote damdred for not even engaging me = mafia.

But then trfel came and posted that post which was ridiculous.

##vote trfel

And I would absolutely write everything i wrote as mafia so anyone even thinking it makes me an alignment is dumb or mafia (trfel). "

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

January 17 2016 02:01 GMT

#515

On January 17 2016 09:50 Holyflare wrote:
A lot so much is mafia.

1. Says rayn has rayn logic and it's not bad but decides to go against rayn's case and still call me town. TMI.

2. Says trfel looked bad but then says trfel looks a lot more towny but still votes trfel.

3. Says that case from rayn on trfel always existed and that's why he was voting trfel but doesn't make sense just after he says trfel looks more towny.

4. Says votes on me and trfel are a good 2 wagons...? Even though he started to tr trfel and has always tr me.

5. Says votes on me good because I'm scummy but for no reasons.

6. Asks why I haven't backed down on trfel so trefl looks good after flip but I've never been on trfel.

Aka convenient tmi in posts (to tr rayn, me), surface level (no reasons whatsoever) to scum read people, and no logical progression other than opportune wanting to be on current wagons.

Quoting this for future reference. Yes, it's more likely to be seen in my filter than anyone elses. Get over it.