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I know I'm town.
At that point, I was very confident in Holyflare as town. I felt that the way he came back was very towny (at least, it fit the town perspective for him), and especially how my "Holyflare is mafia" hypothesis relied on Holyflare playing to survive. I wouldn't call nearly being lynched on Day 1 a good survival plan as mafia, if Holyflare actually cared to survive he wouldn't cut it anywhere near that close. Basically if he's mafia, then he has no gameplan at all, so it makes so much more sense for Holyflare to be town.
Palmar seemed like the only alternative. A few people that I trusted wanted to lynch him, so I checked through his filter and didn't see the things that made me townread him earlier. And then VisceraEyes (one of the people who knows Palmar best, at least I'm almost positive of this) said that he'd lynch Palmar, so I voted for him.
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Damdred, are you going to be around for a while?
If not, I'm sorry, but would you mind humoring me and talk about something else for a bit, and come back to me later?
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Last question,
Why trust say ve over say your tr in rayn? Obviously he's scuming you and hf. And it seems a couple people find nm to be an alternative
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It was just me and DoYouHas who were suspicious of NocturneMage, at least that's what I thought at the time. It seems now that maybe Ace would have voted for him as well, I'm not sure. But it obviously wasn't going to happen.
I wasn't aware that raynpelikoneet had a read on Palmar. I only took notice when raynpelikoneet started saying Palmar was town like a minute before the deadline, but he didn't explain why and there wasn't much I could do at that point.
Even so, I had a townread on VisceraEyes, and I don't really trust people's townreads when I don't understand why they're a strong read.
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Well what do you think of dyh? Do you think his tr on you is good coming from his position?
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On January 18 2016 05:12 Damdred wrote:
Well what do you think of dyh? Do you think his tr on you is good coming from his position? I'm kind of thinking that he is town because instead of doing nothing (if Holyflare is town) or lynching me (if Holyflare is mafia), he pushed on NocturneMage. There's no reason why this couldn't come from mafia, however the way he does it feels natural and towny to me, and I'm fine with a town lean on him for now.
I do have a problem with Cephiro's town read of me, though...On January 17 2016 08:18 Cephiro wrote:
Question for overall thread sentiment since there's still quite a decent amount of votes on Trfel..
I can see how his cases aren't exactly the most rock solid ones, but am I missing something really obvious?
Other than him being somewhat wishywashy, I can't find any ill intent as in intentionally trying to make a player look off worse than what they are. There's a difference between cases not being perfect and cases manipulated with bad intentions, and I honestly don't see the latter when I look at Trfel's play. It doesn't feel coming from mafia at all, being very co-operative, not shitting the thread up while posting a lot (he seems to be trying to create useful discussion or progress the thread in most posts of his?).
So why is he one of the main lynch targets w/ 3 votes?
Going to wait for the NM case(s), and would like to hear more opinions about my case/push on Alot. I still think what I said makes sense, and feel it'd be pretty unnatural for a townie to act as such. Do people really think he has been trying to make things happen instead of contently doing enough to give the impression he's participating? The things that he says here, while true, are exactly the opposite of why everyone else was scumreading me. It's not like DoYouHas, who townreads me for different reasons, but he townreads me for the exact same things that other people are scumreading me for, with exactly the opposite interpretations. That just seems.... yeah.
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I actually think you could be right about ceph perhaps.
But who else nm and?
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I'm going through the filters top to bottom, haven't gotten to NocturneMage yet. So I'm not super sure about him yet.
What are your thoughts about ritoky?
+ Show Spoiler [my thoughts] +I kind of feel like he is town because he really wants to keep his mafia record good, but he's rolled mafia a lot lately and I'm not sure if he suffers from scum fatigue?
And mostly just because every time I townread ritoky, it's wrong T.T But I still want to townread him anyway?
I'm also a bit suspicious of geript, because last time I played with him, he was really really smart. His reads had this special feel to them and they were so insightful. I know he doesn't necessarily play like that every game as town, but here, his reads feel a bit dull, and but he's actually trying. I'm not sure if that makes him mafia or not, but I don't really like it... Thoughts?
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I dont know most of you so I have no clue how you play but something isn't right here. Technically I should be one of your first suspects. I "pushed" the Palmar wagon and didn't vote. As scum this would be an easy way for me to blame the Palmar voters and waste Town time debating people that would lead to mislynches.
And yet some of you missed this entirely and are treating me like confirmed Town.
Something is screwed up with the people talking about suspects right now. If I have more time tonight I'll actually read the thread instead of posts that happen when Im around. But please look at the what I said.
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I wasn't aware that anyone was townreading Ace?
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I was going to explain it in depth but I think I'll wait till later assuming I'm still alive.
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On January 18 2016 05:46 Ace wrote:
I dont know most of you so I have no clue how you play but something isn't right here. Technically I should be one of your first suspects. I "pushed" the Palmar wagon and didn't vote. As scum this would be an easy way for me to blame the Palmar voters and waste Town time debating people that would lead to mislynches.
And yet some of you missed this entirely and are treating me like confirmed Town.
Something is screwed up with the people talking about suspects right now. If I have more time tonight I'll actually read the thread instead of posts that happen when Im around. But please look at the what I said.
I was waiting to see if you were doing some kind of chezinu rule play because calling me mafia all day and then deciding to not push me because I didn't want to get lynched was pretty scummy.
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Also personally I can't wait for rayn to flip mafia, all he's done this game is make a case on me but KNOWING I'm confirmed town and then wanting trfel dead and afking all day into rage quit palmar defence based on 1 post palmar made.
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who the fuck gets angry because someone is confirmed town, mafia!
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or someone that shouldn't be in this game and either way I'm happy no matter what that ends up being!
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My initial read/gut feeling is he is town but there's limited things to go on.
@Ace if I can finish what I was working on I thought about it but people say give you a bit of time to develop which I'm happy to do until tommorow at least.
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whatevs really, it's like 3 people playing the game lol
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On January 18 2016 06:20 Damdred wrote:
My initial read/gut feeling is he is town but there's limited things to go on.
@Ace if I can finish what I was working on I thought about it but people say give you a bit of time to develop which I'm happy to do until tommorow at least.
dont listen to other people. Do what you have to.
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On January 18 2016 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
whatevs really, it's like 3 people playing the game lol
well I'm not too active only because of time. But you should try and take the game seriously even if it means ignoring rayne to keep the game going. You keep blowing it off and other people are doing it shitting it up for everyone.
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I've made a case and not really anyone in the game has commented on it. I'm actually here and playing.
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