EPT[M][I] Rayn let's be nice Invite Take 2 - Page 23
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Damdred
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On January 17 2016 08:30 DoYouHas wrote: So my thinking for a scum NM basically comes down to these two points, which tie together. 1. Strange approach to HF and rayn. NM's initial read is that their scumming eachother was town on town. NM is scumreading Trfel. NM isn't trying to convince people off of the very likely to be lynched HF when he has a townread on HF. Particularly strange since he also has a townread on HF's prime pusher, rayn. It is even stranger when the secondary wagon which has momentum is Trfel. 2. Something that NM was advised of last game by HTS after-the-fact was that something he does as town is to call out when people are using things to call others scum that do not make them scum. The lack of him doing that was one of the ways she was sure he was scum. This game, he is doing that. But he isn't doing it to stop a push on HF. Same response I just gave to Trfel now. EARLY ENOUGH IN THE GAME and those reads can change, also people policy lynching HF is another issue we have to contend with here. I can convince people of a scumread until I am blue in the face but if people want to policy lynch HF there's nothing I can do about it and I still maintain that Trfel is taking certain NAI factors and making it alignment indicative. (ritoky vs myself......uh hello?!??!?!?!?) One way to stop a push on a townread is to convince them more on your scumread but aside from saying "plynch is a copout/etc" I'm really not going to get anywhere. And Damdred truly believes in his townread on Trfel, I get that and looked into other people since this is a 10v3 game. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Holyflare
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Ace
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Holyflare
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
Vote Count Trfel (4): AlotSomuch, NocturneMage, geript, VisceraEyes Holyflare (3): raynpelikoneet, Palmar, Ace NocturneMage (2): Trfel, DoYouHas raynpelikoneet! (1): Holyflare AlotSomuch (1): Cephiro Not voted (2): ritoky, Damdred Currently, Trfel is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 17 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread. | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
Hang AlotSomuch. I will even provide you a links to my posts so you can read why: Case Repeating a main point Conclusion | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On January 17 2016 08:40 Holyflare wrote: Why deflect from me ace? why not, I love the chaos. You actually want to play now? Cephiro making good posts too. Why is Trfel getting booted? :D | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On January 17 2016 08:34 Trfel wrote: I don't know. I'm starting to remember some things that make me less sure that you are mafia, though, so I really need to look into that more. My perception of Palmar's meta is that as mafia he is serious and as town he is not. Basically just that, but relative to Palmar's play. That's why he was mafia in Outlaw Mafia (to me, anyway), because overall he was serious and actually playing the game as it's intended to be played. To answer your previous question, I did read the thread (if a bit quickly, there's some time pressure...), and I read your posts. And I still think that you are mafia, though I'm double-checking that read. Yes, I found several things about your more recent posts suspicious, but I don't share every suspicious thing that I see unless I feel that there is a point to it. Here's the thing, the reason I'm asking you this is accountability. You're driving a mislynch one way or another. DYH I can't tell at the moment if he's town having a bad read on me because he's just not been in this game or if he's mafia trying to get the easiest ML he can manage. And Trfel if you are town, then I think you're not entirely accurate on the Palmar meta. He trolled the shit out of people in Outlaw, and in Down Under 3 from obsing I recall him being more serious yelling at people who didn't follow him. It's a faulty reason to town him in your worldview. | ||
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Ace
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Holyflare
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On January 17 2016 08:44 NocturneMage wrote: Here's the thing, the reason I'm asking you this is accountability. You're driving a mislynch one way or another. DYH I can't tell at the moment if he's town having a bad read on me because he's just not been in this game or if he's mafia trying to get the easiest ML he can manage. And Trfel if you are town, then I think you're not entirely accurate on the Palmar meta. He trolled the shit out of people in Outlaw, and in Down Under 3 from obsing I recall him being more serious yelling at people who didn't follow him. It's a faulty reason to town him in your worldview. the fuck? clarify | ||
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Trfel
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On January 17 2016 08:44 NocturneMage wrote: Um, my read is entirely correct.Here's the thing, the reason I'm asking you this is accountability. You're driving a mislynch one way or another. DYH I can't tell at the moment if he's town having a bad read on me because he's just not been in this game or if he's mafia trying to get the easiest ML he can manage. And Trfel if you are town, then I think you're not entirely accurate on the Palmar meta. He trolled the shit out of people in Outlaw, and in Down Under 3 from obsing I recall him being more serious yelling at people who didn't follow him. It's a faulty reason to town him in your worldview. Palmar didn't troll at all in Outlaw Mafia (at least not in the first three days, pretty sure he didn't after that, either). At least, not relative to Palmar, anyway. An example of Palmar trolling is shown in Down Under 2, where Palmar was talking to two or three other Palmars. Another example of Palmar trolling is shown in Linux Mafia, where he mocked the recently released movie "The Interview" by drawing attention to himself without furthering the game in any way. It's not something I can explain, you'd have to read it to believe it. | ||
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Trfel
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On January 17 2016 08:29 Trfel wrote: If you must know, I was attempting to save a game that I was worried would need to be aborted, again. About half of my reasons to scumread ritoky were fluff, about half were genuine reasons. Did they warrant a vote? No. Was I actually suspicious of him? Yes, but I have learned from experience that if I say the level of suspicion that I actually feel, no one listens because I'm apparently too wishy-washy to talk to. I've been trying to solve the game and work with people throughout, so I'm not sure what you mean when you say that my approach to the game is scummy. I'll accept this. Who's next on the block? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Trfel
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VisceraEyes, remind me, what is your read on Palmar? You know him a lot better than I do. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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##Vote: Palmar | ||
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