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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 16 2016 22:26 GMT
#381
If he constantly thought that Trfel was the better lynch, why the hell would he ever take Trfel's case on Holyflare seriously? That doesn't make any sense.

If your #1 scumread makes a case on someone, who the hell reacts to that by saying the case is good and has valid points, making that #1 scumread less scummy and the case they made the person on more scummy, and still somehow keeping the #1 scumread as #1?

Someone explain me how you wrapped your heads around that logic? Because I sure as hell don't see why a townie would ever react that way.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 16 2016 22:29 GMT
#382
I think Ace is mafia
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
AlotSomuch
Profile Joined January 2016
95 Posts
January 16 2016 22:32 GMT
#383
Literally every single one of your questions was already asked and answered. You are literally being too lazy to do any of your own research and are asking me to fix your case for you, while multiple people are telling you the things you say I never answered and explained, were in fact answered and explained.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 16 2016 22:32 GMT
#384
On January 17 2016 07:26 Cephiro wrote:
If he constantly thought that Trfel was the better lynch, why the hell would he ever take Trfel's case on Holyflare seriously? That doesn't make any sense.

If your #1 scumread makes a case on someone, who the hell reacts to that by saying the case is good and has valid points, making that #1 scumread less scummy and the case they made the person on more scummy, and still somehow keeping the #1 scumread as #1?

Someone explain me how you wrapped your heads around that logic? Because I sure as hell don't see why a townie would ever react that way.

If that's truly how it went down and A dude is a five then it sounds like he's trying to keep both wagons going without keeping his story straight.

I thought HF wanted to die. Is he interested in living now? Lol
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 16 2016 22:33 GMT
#385
On January 17 2016 07:29 Ace wrote:
I think Ace is mafia

All right I'll lynch Ace too. You've convinced me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
AlotSomuch
Profile Joined January 2016
95 Posts
January 16 2016 22:34 GMT
#386
On January 17 2016 07:26 Cephiro wrote:
If he constantly thought that Trfel was the better lynch, why the hell would he ever take Trfel's case on Holyflare seriously? That doesn't make any sense.

If your #1 scumread makes a case on someone, who the hell reacts to that by saying the case is good and has valid points, making that #1 scumread less scummy and the case they made the person on more scummy, and still somehow keeping the #1 scumread as #1?

Someone explain me how you wrapped your heads around that logic? Because I sure as hell don't see why a townie would ever react that way.



This is DAY 1. I don't know you people. I think Trifle is probably mafia, and I vote him. He starts making some good points. Not good enough to cover up the bad stuff I already find him suspicious for, but just because I'm suspicious of someone does not mean they can't make good cases. I leave my vote where it is, and admit that if Holey DOES get lynched, and he DOES flip mafia, then I'm probably wrong about Trifle and won't go after him day 2. I say that because at the time it looks more likely holey will get lynched instead of trifle. What exactly is so difficult to understand about this?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 16 2016 22:35 GMT
#387
On January 17 2016 07:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 07:29 Ace wrote:
I think Ace is mafia

All right I'll lynch Ace too. You've convinced me.


What about that VE guy? What % do you have him as scum
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 16 2016 22:36 GMT
#388
On January 17 2016 07:26 Cephiro wrote:
If he constantly thought that Trfel was the better lynch, why the hell would he ever take Trfel's case on Holyflare seriously? That doesn't make any sense.

If your #1 scumread makes a case on someone, who the hell reacts to that by saying the case is good and has valid points, making that #1 scumread less scummy and the case they made the person on more scummy, and still somehow keeping the #1 scumread as #1?

Someone explain me how you wrapped your heads around that logic? Because I sure as hell don't see why a townie would ever react that way.


The way you are phrasing this, you are taking the points in isolation/absolutes. He even said there were other points of his play he considered plus Holyflare's play.

In the event you are town, it's probably better at this point for ASM to straight up respond to you here, but I can actually see a town motivation.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2016 22:36 GMT
#389
I think ceph is probably town from this. If try trfel or hf flip scum I think he's a bit more suspect. Bit I don't see this kind of pressure/activity in what amounts to a largely inactive game coming from scum with town up for lynch hmmm
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 16 2016 22:37 GMT
#390
LOL ninjaed by ASM. Carry on.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 16 2016 22:38 GMT
#391
I'm going through Trfel's filter since I AFKed, page 3 is making my brain bleed. Holy shit.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 16 2016 22:38 GMT
#392
On January 17 2016 07:34 AlotSomuch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 07:26 Cephiro wrote:
If he constantly thought that Trfel was the better lynch, why the hell would he ever take Trfel's case on Holyflare seriously? That doesn't make any sense.

If your #1 scumread makes a case on someone, who the hell reacts to that by saying the case is good and has valid points, making that #1 scumread less scummy and the case they made the person on more scummy, and still somehow keeping the #1 scumread as #1?

Someone explain me how you wrapped your heads around that logic? Because I sure as hell don't see why a townie would ever react that way.



This is DAY 1. I don't know you people. I think Trifle is probably mafia, and I vote him. He starts making some good points. Not good enough to cover up the bad stuff I already find him suspicious for, but just because I'm suspicious of someone does not mean they can't make good cases. I leave my vote where it is, and admit that if Holey DOES get lynched, and he DOES flip mafia, then I'm probably wrong about Trifle and won't go after him day 2. I say that because at the time it looks more likely holey will get lynched instead of trifle. What exactly is so difficult to understand about this?


Don't rule out a Trifle/HF scum team
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
AlotSomuch
Profile Joined January 2016
95 Posts
January 16 2016 22:42 GMT
#393
On January 17 2016 07:38 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 07:34 AlotSomuch wrote:
On January 17 2016 07:26 Cephiro wrote:
If he constantly thought that Trfel was the better lynch, why the hell would he ever take Trfel's case on Holyflare seriously? That doesn't make any sense.

If your #1 scumread makes a case on someone, who the hell reacts to that by saying the case is good and has valid points, making that #1 scumread less scummy and the case they made the person on more scummy, and still somehow keeping the #1 scumread as #1?

Someone explain me how you wrapped your heads around that logic? Because I sure as hell don't see why a townie would ever react that way.



This is DAY 1. I don't know you people. I think Trifle is probably mafia, and I vote him. He starts making some good points. Not good enough to cover up the bad stuff I already find him suspicious for, but just because I'm suspicious of someone does not mean they can't make good cases. I leave my vote where it is, and admit that if Holey DOES get lynched, and he DOES flip mafia, then I'm probably wrong about Trifle and won't go after him day 2. I say that because at the time it looks more likely holey will get lynched instead of trifle. What exactly is so difficult to understand about this?


Don't rule out a Trifle/HF scum team


Except I already have. Why would they start to back off from each other at the End of the phase, when after going for each other throughout the day they could have ended with one of them looking great, instead of STILL getting lynched (as they have stayed the top vote candidates throughout) and looking awful for backing off at the last minute in a failed attempt to save a scummate?
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 16 2016 22:43 GMT
#394
Right now, I don't like that geript is a bit on the sidelines here....esp with a case on ASM.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2016 22:43 GMT
#395
I went after trfel in one post lol
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 16 2016 22:43 GMT
#396
On January 17 2016 07:34 AlotSomuch wrote:
This is DAY 1. I don't know you people. I think Trifle is probably mafia, and I vote him. He starts making some good points. Not good enough to cover up the bad stuff I already find him suspicious for, but just because I'm suspicious of someone does not mean they can't make good cases. I leave my vote where it is, and admit that if Holey DOES get lynched, and he DOES flip mafia, then I'm probably wrong about Trifle and won't go after him day 2. I say that because at the time it looks more likely holey will get lynched instead of trifle. What exactly is so difficult to understand about this?


So what you're saying is... you think Trfel is the likeliest mafia. Then he spouts out a decent case which you agree with to some extent.

My line of thought is this:

1) Why would you give a shit about what mafia thinks unless you think you can associate their fake case into finding more mafia, or alternatively confirming someone as town?
2) If you're not confident enough that they're mafia and willing to admit the case has good points that you agree with and would push, why do you keep thinking of them as your #1 mafia read?
3) Since you're clearly unsure if Trfel is mafia or not, why aren't you trying to push the issue more strongly / question him further to ensure your read on him?

It really doesn't look like a town trying to get his scumread lynched, especially with the way you're keeping your options open. A townie shouldn't think about keeping options open, but to find the mafia and get that player killed. With the amount of pushing for someone you've been doing on your own accord, and the wishy-washyness regarding actually being fine with either of the current top-2 lynch targets, I don't see that sincerely coming from town. You're not willing to commit to your read the way a townie should be doing, thus I'm very certain you're scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2016 22:43 GMT
#397
Why does rayn keep dodging me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2016 22:44 GMT
#398
On January 17 2016 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
On January 17 2016 00:51 Holyflare wrote:



raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 16 2016 22:45 GMT
#399
On January 17 2016 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
Why does rayn keep dodging me?

Because i don't wanna talk with you about my read on you.
I don't care what you say about it. I don't care if you try to defend yourself.
I just don't care.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 16 2016 22:48 GMT
#400
On January 17 2016 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
Why does rayn keep dodging me?

Because i don't wanna talk with you about my read on you.
I don't care what you say about it. I don't care if you try to defend yourself.
I just don't care.


But your case isn't a read on me. It's literally based on something I said that you have misquoted. Why aren't you addressing this in the slightest?

My first 2 posts were not lies.
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