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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
If your #1 scumread makes a case on someone, who the hell reacts to that by saying the case is good and has valid points, making that #1 scumread less scummy and the case they made the person on more scummy, and still somehow keeping the #1 scumread as #1? Someone explain me how you wrapped your heads around that logic? Because I sure as hell don't see why a townie would ever react that way. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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AlotSomuch
95 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On January 17 2016 07:26 Cephiro wrote: If he constantly thought that Trfel was the better lynch, why the hell would he ever take Trfel's case on Holyflare seriously? That doesn't make any sense. If your #1 scumread makes a case on someone, who the hell reacts to that by saying the case is good and has valid points, making that #1 scumread less scummy and the case they made the person on more scummy, and still somehow keeping the #1 scumread as #1? Someone explain me how you wrapped your heads around that logic? Because I sure as hell don't see why a townie would ever react that way. If that's truly how it went down and A dude is a five then it sounds like he's trying to keep both wagons going without keeping his story straight. I thought HF wanted to die. Is he interested in living now? Lol | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On January 17 2016 07:29 Ace wrote: I think Ace is mafia All right I'll lynch Ace too. You've convinced me. | ||
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AlotSomuch
95 Posts
On January 17 2016 07:26 Cephiro wrote: If he constantly thought that Trfel was the better lynch, why the hell would he ever take Trfel's case on Holyflare seriously? That doesn't make any sense. If your #1 scumread makes a case on someone, who the hell reacts to that by saying the case is good and has valid points, making that #1 scumread less scummy and the case they made the person on more scummy, and still somehow keeping the #1 scumread as #1? Someone explain me how you wrapped your heads around that logic? Because I sure as hell don't see why a townie would ever react that way. This is DAY 1. I don't know you people. I think Trifle is probably mafia, and I vote him. He starts making some good points. Not good enough to cover up the bad stuff I already find him suspicious for, but just because I'm suspicious of someone does not mean they can't make good cases. I leave my vote where it is, and admit that if Holey DOES get lynched, and he DOES flip mafia, then I'm probably wrong about Trifle and won't go after him day 2. I say that because at the time it looks more likely holey will get lynched instead of trifle. What exactly is so difficult to understand about this? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On January 17 2016 07:33 VisceraEyes wrote: All right I'll lynch Ace too. You've convinced me. What about that VE guy? What % do you have him as scum | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On January 17 2016 07:26 Cephiro wrote: If he constantly thought that Trfel was the better lynch, why the hell would he ever take Trfel's case on Holyflare seriously? That doesn't make any sense. If your #1 scumread makes a case on someone, who the hell reacts to that by saying the case is good and has valid points, making that #1 scumread less scummy and the case they made the person on more scummy, and still somehow keeping the #1 scumread as #1? Someone explain me how you wrapped your heads around that logic? Because I sure as hell don't see why a townie would ever react that way. The way you are phrasing this, you are taking the points in isolation/absolutes. He even said there were other points of his play he considered plus Holyflare's play. In the event you are town, it's probably better at this point for ASM to straight up respond to you here, but I can actually see a town motivation. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On January 17 2016 07:34 AlotSomuch wrote: This is DAY 1. I don't know you people. I think Trifle is probably mafia, and I vote him. He starts making some good points. Not good enough to cover up the bad stuff I already find him suspicious for, but just because I'm suspicious of someone does not mean they can't make good cases. I leave my vote where it is, and admit that if Holey DOES get lynched, and he DOES flip mafia, then I'm probably wrong about Trifle and won't go after him day 2. I say that because at the time it looks more likely holey will get lynched instead of trifle. What exactly is so difficult to understand about this? Don't rule out a Trifle/HF scum team | ||
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AlotSomuch
95 Posts
Except I already have. Why would they start to back off from each other at the End of the phase, when after going for each other throughout the day they could have ended with one of them looking great, instead of STILL getting lynched (as they have stayed the top vote candidates throughout) and looking awful for backing off at the last minute in a failed attempt to save a scummate? | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
On January 17 2016 07:34 AlotSomuch wrote: This is DAY 1. I don't know you people. I think Trifle is probably mafia, and I vote him. He starts making some good points. Not good enough to cover up the bad stuff I already find him suspicious for, but just because I'm suspicious of someone does not mean they can't make good cases. I leave my vote where it is, and admit that if Holey DOES get lynched, and he DOES flip mafia, then I'm probably wrong about Trifle and won't go after him day 2. I say that because at the time it looks more likely holey will get lynched instead of trifle. What exactly is so difficult to understand about this? So what you're saying is... you think Trfel is the likeliest mafia. Then he spouts out a decent case which you agree with to some extent. My line of thought is this: 1) Why would you give a shit about what mafia thinks unless you think you can associate their fake case into finding more mafia, or alternatively confirming someone as town? 2) If you're not confident enough that they're mafia and willing to admit the case has good points that you agree with and would push, why do you keep thinking of them as your #1 mafia read? 3) Since you're clearly unsure if Trfel is mafia or not, why aren't you trying to push the issue more strongly / question him further to ensure your read on him? It really doesn't look like a town trying to get his scumread lynched, especially with the way you're keeping your options open. A townie shouldn't think about keeping options open, but to find the mafia and get that player killed. With the amount of pushing for someone you've been doing on your own accord, and the wishy-washyness regarding actually being fine with either of the current top-2 lynch targets, I don't see that sincerely coming from town. You're not willing to commit to your read the way a townie should be doing, thus I'm very certain you're scum. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On January 17 2016 00:51 Holyflare wrote: | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On January 17 2016 07:43 Holyflare wrote: Why does rayn keep dodging me? Because i don't wanna talk with you about my read on you. I don't care what you say about it. I don't care if you try to defend yourself. I just don't care. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On January 17 2016 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because i don't wanna talk with you about my read on you. I don't care what you say about it. I don't care if you try to defend yourself. I just don't care. But your case isn't a read on me. It's literally based on something I said that you have misquoted. Why aren't you addressing this in the slightest? My first 2 posts were not lies. | ||
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