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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 14 2016 17:54 GMT
#97
/in
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 19 2016 08:35 GMT
#340
Based on the outlaw game we should just start the game deciding who has to be a good sheep, that way we can stop another Palmar debacle where he's the first mafia who gets figured out but still makes it to endgame
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 19 2016 15:55 GMT
#431
Picking 1 1, obviously a lie.

Obviously the truth.

Pretty much sums up why this shitty number claiming strat won't do jack.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 19 2016 16:26 GMT
#433
On January 20 2016 00:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Well based on the pick order, you basically have an idea of what every single player picked by day one. Essentially claiming the numbers reduces the odds of overlap, while mafia knows what each other is picking so they can avoid it already. Like a few games ago, like 6 players chose [9] or something stupid like that. What's the disadvantage Vivax?


You dont know if its truthful what anyone claims and if it is then mafia can pretty much pick the sweet numbers to at least have 1 of their members pick first, I think.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 20 2016 11:28 GMT
#905
8 mafia vs 14 town, any player in here has a 36 % chance of being mafia. Every third player posting something is statistically mafia.

We might as well surrender to RNG instead of trying to argue about lynches knowing that a shitton of people is lying about them.

The only question in this game is which mafia team wins. As such I don't plan on pouring any effort going beyond half assed in this game.

Ofc I stole kita's thunder by picking his number cause I think he's mafia (saying I don't do anything about number claiming is pretty stupid cause giving my opinion on it is already "doing something" and I had good reason not to partake in that plan where mafia has all the numbers nicely presented for their team to coordinate.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 20 2016 13:39 GMT
#968
Rels is probably the towniest fucker in here right now.

Palmar pretends to care but all he wants is just to skate by as the mafia eminence and let others do the work for him, while trying to lynch me. He is also a real sucker for kita's argument against me which was an argument a player like kita wouldn't bring as town, since I assume he knows me well enough. And on top of it the argument was bad,
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 20 2016 13:40 GMT
#970
On January 20 2016 22:40 Rels wrote:
Vivax what was your second number ?


2
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 20 2016 13:41 GMT
#971
I'm fine with bringing kita down in the selection but I also wanted a piece of the cake.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 20 2016 14:17 GMT
#983
On January 20 2016 03:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 00:55 Vivax wrote:
Picking 1 1, obviously a lie.

Obviously the truth.

Pretty much sums up why this shitty number claiming strat won't do jack.

Vivax is mafia. Not simply because he refuses to cooperate but because he refuses to cooperate AND that is everything he brings to the table.



What should I bring to the table besides that the claiming plan was stupid? In that phase there's literally nothing interesting besides people arguing about the picks.

I love these type of arguments where someone is mafia cause he did something that in his opinion was more than sufficient at that stage, and then you sayy they're mafia cause they didn't bring anything else without going into specifics.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 20 2016 14:19 GMT
#985
On January 20 2016 22:44 Rels wrote:
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On January 20 2016 22:41 Vivax wrote:
I'm fine with bringing kita down in the selection but I also wanted a piece of the cake.

kita 4,1 you 4,1 had 50/50% chance on both of you getting places 10/11
kita 4,1 you 4,2 had 100% on kita getting place 10 and you getting place 11
Obiously you didn't know the place number, but the principle is still the same for any placement
I don't understand what you seeked to achieve by taking 4,2 instead of 4,1 ?


Oh it was a misunderstanding on my part then, I thought that if we both pick 4 1 then we get even lower or get a mysterious challenger role or shennies like that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 20 2016 19:12 GMT
#1098
On January 21 2016 03:26 Koshi wrote:
Ok. If I get modkilled due to some really innocent flaming due to nazi hosting I would like to already ask that every begs bh to only ban me for 1 game. If I get another 3 game ban I will leave this site.


Learn to be a gentleman dick like me
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 21 2016 10:33 GMT
#1547
I got quite the pro town role.

Breakfast time :>
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 21 2016 10:46 GMT
#1549
Koshi is there anyone in this game you really want dead.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 21 2016 10:47 GMT
#1550
More of a rhetorical question
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 15:11 GMT
#2018
weekend starts now for me so ill do stuff when i get home. I picked dimensional lemming, means we can have 2 lunches tomorrow.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 15:24 GMT
#2031
cause contrary to you i have no intention of being palmars shoe cleaner/slave in a pyp game. i pick whats fun for me. but you can keep being his little toy (which i eill try to establish if its with the intention to pocket him, and despite the effirt he can still be mafia too
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 15:58 GMT
#2067
Kita is more trustworthy than Palmar at this point. The latter just pushes for any lynch with any shit reason he can find.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 15:58 GMT
#2068
Like "people refusing to claim are mafia" is a 5-year-old argument
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:05 GMT
#2072
No really this is skeleton king palmar, histrionic spammy and pushy, mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:05 GMT
#2073
He is still on an egotrip from last game probably and that's why he tryhards so much
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:07 GMT
#2076
Ima dig up the titanic game where you played similarly to this, iirc
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:13 GMT
#2078
Nah im 180ing on him, he's probably town actually
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:15 GMT
#2081
Disformation is mafia, rels is mafia
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:19 GMT
#2083
1gu sounds too serious for my taste, either he's mafia or he's really in bad shape idk.

Keirathi is town.

GB can be scum, im leaning more towards yes.

Damdred can be mafia, he's almost on my level of afk but he doesn't have a history of doing that on purpose.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:23 GMT
#2086
TT is town, Breshke looks bad, bits of wish wash and calls out Obi for his reads but not sure if he dislikes the reads alone or Obi along with them,

Alotsomuch town, superbia town, koshi town.

VA is something that should be vigged.



Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:32 GMT
#2088
TS Im keeping at null until im done with the others cause walls of text.

FF looks townish (he tends to be more formulaic as mafia imo).

SL not sure but going with town for now based on posting style that looks the same like his last games.

Cephiro town for role handling, but I would leave a safety caveat cause he might just be doing it for the cred, rethink him later if needed.

Geript is super apathetic, probably mafia.

Copcake can be mafia she has a ton of posts that don't say much explicitly, more of a conversational do something while doing nothign style like Rels does when hes mafia. I'd wait for more posts and ask for clearer stances.

Palmar town dictator but im leaning like 80 % town after checking the titanic game (the level of tryhard wasnt this high). But theres the egotrip thingy so im leaving 20 % of uncertainty.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:35 GMT
#2091
ALrighty filter by filter analysis is complete, the verdict:

Lynch damdy, geript, GB, Rels imo.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:35 GMT
#2093
Oh and disfo, super opportunistic style of playing, his one.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:39 GMT
#2099
ill be completely honest i picked dimensional lemming hoping i could pull myself and a few other heroes of the resistance into another game where we could lynch palmar just for lulz
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:45 GMT
#2107
On January 23 2016 01:38 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 01:35 Vivax wrote:
ALrighty filter by filter analysis is complete, the verdict:

Lynch damdy, geript, GB, Rels imo.


Which one specifically in your opinion?


Geript has the excuse of being busy, Rels has a protective role, GB basically even afked during the pick process so he's the safest bet in terms of apathy and in terms of risking to lose something useful for town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:46 GMT
#2108
And Damdred claimed to be protective too.
But yea if you're lazy/busy mafia thats the tpe of role you will claim to survive D1.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 16:50 GMT
#2113
On January 23 2016 01:47 CopCake wrote:
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On January 23 2016 01:32 Vivax wrote:
TS Im keeping at null until im done with the others cause walls of text.

FF looks townish (he tends to be more formulaic as mafia imo).

SL not sure but going with town for now based on posting style that looks the same like his last games.

Cephiro town for role handling, but I would leave a safety caveat cause he might just be doing it for the cred, rethink him later if needed.

Geript is super apathetic, probably mafia.

Copcake can be mafia she has a ton of posts that don't say much explicitly, more of a conversational do something while doing nothign style like Rels does when hes mafia. I'd wait for more posts and ask for clearer stances.

Palmar town dictator but im leaning like 80 % town after checking the titanic game (the level of tryhard wasnt this high). But theres the egotrip thingy so im leaving 20 % of uncertainty.


Ohhhhhh come and tell me more about it.

Excuse me for being busy and skimming most game.


Can you skim GB then cause the last time you mentioned him you somehow did that while talking about keirathi.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 17:17 GMT
#2130
On January 23 2016 02:14 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 02:08 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 23 2016 01:32 Vivax wrote:
Palmar town dictator but im leaning like 80 % town after checking the titanic game (the level of tryhard wasnt this high).


Do you think it is a fair assessment to say that Palmar only tries hard as town?


The reason I ask is because you chose titanic as your comp, while playing with him a few weeks ago in outlaw where he had his 22 page scum game and you said that you would "never TR him" that game as town.


yea but in that game he got instantly caught on n1 or 2 by a bunch of people who died on those nights including myself and if he were mafia in this game my spidey sense would tingle like in that one.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 17:19 GMT
#2132
I dont even know if Koshi thinks im town for realz but he's perfectly right in saying that you can lynch me tomorrow if I dont use my power.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 17:22 GMT
#2133
On January 23 2016 02:18 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 02:17 Vivax wrote:
On January 23 2016 02:14 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 23 2016 02:08 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 23 2016 01:32 Vivax wrote:
Palmar town dictator but im leaning like 80 % town after checking the titanic game (the level of tryhard wasnt this high).


Do you think it is a fair assessment to say that Palmar only tries hard as town?


The reason I ask is because you chose titanic as your comp, while playing with him a few weeks ago in outlaw where he had his 22 page scum game and you said that you would "never TR him" that game as town.


yea but in that game he got instantly caught on n1 or 2 by a bunch of people who died on those nights including myself and if he were mafia in this game my spidey sense would tingle like in that one.


So your spidey sense didn't tingle this game? I thought you said you thought he was mafia, but the titanic changed your mind. It doesn't seem very consistent.


My read on Palmar isnt a 100% read so nothing be consistent about.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 17:27 GMT
#2135
Voting 1gu with koshi, how it goes it goes and I did my part and gave reads.

I could pull out the get out of jail card if you give me 1 extra cycle to bleed town like I do when im town, but since I'm standard d1 lynch option in most games no matter my alignment I just won't care and let you lynch tomorrow's double lynch.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 17:31 GMT
#2136
Im also very tempted to scumread Palmar again
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 18:51 GMT
#2169
On January 23 2016 03:49 Keirathi wrote:
We should be lynching one of: geript, Onegu, Damdred imo.


You're on geript with 1gu so make up your mind or something.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 18:54 GMT
#2171
On January 23 2016 03:52 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 03:51 Vivax wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:49 Keirathi wrote:
We should be lynching one of: geript, Onegu, Damdred imo.


You're on geript with 1gu so make up your mind or something.

What does that have to do with anything? There are two separate teams and they both want to get towncred for lynching each other??


It has to do with you not wanting to lynch me but one of them and you cant do it if you stay on geript???
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 18:56 GMT
#2173
Reading Rels filter is hilarious cause he posts useless questions that lead to nowhere in regular intervals, it's such a shiny pattern it hurts my eyes.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 18:57 GMT
#2174
On January 23 2016 03:56 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 03:54 Vivax wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:52 Keirathi wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:51 Vivax wrote:
On January 23 2016 03:49 Keirathi wrote:
We should be lynching one of: geript, Onegu, Damdred imo.


You're on geript with 1gu so make up your mind or something.

What does that have to do with anything? There are two separate teams and they both want to get towncred for lynching each other??


It has to do with you not wanting to lynch me but one of them and you cant do it if you stay on geript???

Huh?

Want to lynch geript. Voting geript.

I'm really confused what you're saying here :\


You dont mind that only 1 gu wants to lnch geript with you ?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 19:20 GMT
#2178
On January 23 2016 04:10 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 03:56 Vivax wrote:
Reading Rels filter is hilarious cause he posts useless questions that lead to nowhere in regular intervals, it's such a shiny pattern it hurts my eyes.


Can you tell us what made you call him "the towniest fucker in here" during the picking phases then?


On January 20 2016 22:24 Rels wrote:
So. The people that took other people numbers:

Cephiro (3,2) took Koshi (3,1) => claim here => no explanation as to why he scumread Koshi ? And it doesn't make sense it didn't pick 3,1; by picking 3,2, he knew Koshi was going before him, so he cannot deny him a role if he thinks he's scum => probably scum
Vivax (4, X) took kita (4,1) => claim here => kita's attacking him is baseless, but why no target someone else that attacked him ? => maybe scum
Onegu (6,1) took SL (6,1) => claim here => he wanted to mess with SL, but I didn't find any reason he scumread him ? At least he picked 6,1 so it makes sense with the "deny" mentality => slight scumlean
The Shining (6,3) took SL (6,1) => claim here => he warned before deadline and SL wanted to change but failed => not a targeted attack
TT (8,1) took disfo (8,1) => claim here => tone read on disfo, picked 8,1 so he could have the chance to deny disfo a role so it makes sense => maybe town
FF (9,6) took Damdred (9,19) => claim here => meta scumread on Damdred and assuring to pick before Damdred => good read on a strong player, probably town
VA (11,X) took AlotSomuch (11,1) => claim here => no explanation => good read though, maybe town


this post
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 19:22 GMT
#2179
I realized I was istaking effort for townishness after a review of his newer posts
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
January 22 2016 19:44 GMT
#2190
Palmar do you even care if im artorias or lemming?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
February 04 2016 00:07 GMT
#5634
Thanks for hosting and thanks to superbia for the impressive performance.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
February 04 2016 00:10 GMT
#5643
My reads weren't actually bad this game ^^ (on the other scum team).
Don't mind me just pretending someone will pat me on the back for them
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
February 04 2016 03:05 GMT
#5747
On February 04 2016 09:49 Half the Sky wrote:
GGs. Phone posting ATM. Superbia, congrats on the clutch and to the townies left my commiserations.

Tictock you get a shoutout for your performance.

GreY it was a pleasure I appreciate being to learn from you.

FWIW in case people want to see the night actions in full.

Only have the first two nights, sorry for not having beyond...

[image loading]

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I'll comment on a few more things when I return.


Reminds me of my biochemistry and neuro notes.
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