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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 19:59 GMT
#3650
On January 27 2016 04:57 Tictock wrote:
How did Palmar kill your desire to play?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25334872
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 20:07 GMT
#3654
I played with scum!Cake on vendetta-strada. She was way more...impactful?...there. Like she was proactively pushing reads, getting in fiths with people, etc. She played quite well. The only reason I caught her was because of the way she interacted with her other scum buddies, and she probably still could have won after I was lynched but she ended up forfeiting.

Basically I know Cake is very capable of tryharding as scum. It's hard to say if she's just scum here without time to play, or not very confident townie with not much time to play. I would tend to lean toward the latter, at this point, but not a lot of reasoning for it.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 20:31 GMT
#3661
On January 27 2016 05:19 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 04:59 Keirathi wrote:
On January 27 2016 04:57 Tictock wrote:
How did Palmar kill your desire to play?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=25334872

At this point you're just using this as an excuse. So what, I failed a kill and got mad for half an hour.

Yes, I am relatively salty about people not wanting to do exactly as I say. I had the only comprehensive and good plan in town, I put a ton of work into getting it done, I delivered mafia on day 1 and delivered mafia on day 2. It is seriously annoying to deal with people who can't step back from their own ego.

For what it's worth, I would've loved it if someone actually did the organizing for me and I could just focus on scumhunting. But the only person who barely tried was clearly mafia and all he did was make my plan worse.

So yeah, if you're trying to use me getting mad for half an hour as an excuse to just not play the game that is pretty shit if you're town.


Lol, MY ego?

Here's what'll happen. You'll lynch me, I'll flip town, then you'll blame me for being bad/idiot/whatever. Despite the fact that you were wrong about me before you even started trying to give out roles and I wouldn't play along. Despite the fact that I said in the last PYP game I played in that playing along with some mass-pick strategy isn't what I sign up to play PYP games for. Despite any evidence to the contrary, you just think you're so good that you can't be wrong, and if you are then it's the other person's fault instead of yours.

So, I'll do what I can until I die. Hopefully soon.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 20:39 GMT
#3664
I got lazy and haven't updated it since right around the start of day 1, but: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t7DbjeTlBc75aUKSW93mmcgPt6fGDhW9pdqDZ1G8vzE/edit?usp=sharing

That's where I was at at htat point. I'm having a hard time progressing from there, though. Partly aggravated at Palmar, mostly aggravated at myself.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 20:44 GMT
#3668
On January 27 2016 05:42 Palmar wrote:
yeah you're sort of not allowed to do that keir, because you can edit the text.

You should be taking screenshots if you want to post your spreadsheet.

Wait, why? I know I've seen people do it before. I remember bugs doing it for sure.

I apologize if that was against the rules. I really didn't think it would be :\
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 20:51 GMT
#3674
On January 27 2016 05:47 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 05:44 Keirathi wrote:
On January 27 2016 05:42 Palmar wrote:
yeah you're sort of not allowed to do that keir, because you can edit the text.

You should be taking screenshots if you want to post your spreadsheet.

Wait, why? I know I've seen people do it before. I remember bugs doing it for sure.

I apologize if that was against the rules. I really didn't think it would be :\

we had a massive discussion about it a few years back. I think the conclusion was screenshots are fine, but other shit really isn't.

It comes down to you being able to edit the document to remove content that was there.

It's fine, just don't edit it more. I'm sure the hosts will at most warn you for this.

I honest to god don't remember it and was sure I'd seen other people do it.

So yea, my apologies people/hosts.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 20:54 GMT
#3678
On January 27 2016 05:50 Palmar wrote:
btw why did you track geript?

Because I had a scum read on him and he seemed like a decent person to carry out KP if he was scum. Most people were just kind of brushing him off as town, or at least sorta town?

Plus, even if he wasn't using KP, who he used his other abilities on could have been useful information.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 20:55 GMT
#3680
On January 27 2016 05:54 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 05:39 Keirathi wrote:
I got lazy and haven't updated it since right around the start of day 1, but: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t7DbjeTlBc75aUKSW93mmcgPt6fGDhW9pdqDZ1G8vzE/edit?usp=sharing

That's where I was at at htat point. I'm having a hard time progressing from there, though. Partly aggravated at Palmar, mostly aggravated at myself.


This was your own notes for keeping track of your reads?

Yes.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 20:56 GMT
#3683
On January 27 2016 05:56 Koshi wrote:
Didn't you track me?

No, I tracked geript. You got busdriven with geript, so I got tracking results for you.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 21:06 GMT
#3691
On January 27 2016 06:02 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 05:55 Keirathi wrote:
On January 27 2016 05:54 Tictock wrote:
On January 27 2016 05:39 Keirathi wrote:
I got lazy and haven't updated it since right around the start of day 1, but: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t7DbjeTlBc75aUKSW93mmcgPt6fGDhW9pdqDZ1G8vzE/edit?usp=sharing

That's where I was at at htat point. I'm having a hard time progressing from there, though. Partly aggravated at Palmar, mostly aggravated at myself.


This was your own notes for keeping track of your reads?

Yes.


Really? kus some of the wording is strange.

Show nested quote +

Slight townie feel from the argument with OWS at the end of drafting phase. I have fact-checked, but I don't remember scum!damdred ever raging in thread.


This isn't written like a note you leave for yourself, this is written for someone else to read it

My intention was to post it at the end of night0, but I wasn't finished with it then and then quit updating it shortly after day1 started. Well, except for adding in an extra column for the claimed roles.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 21:49 GMT
#3697
Gotta delete the spreadsheet. Here are screenshots of it before I take it down for anyone who didn't get to see it:

http://i.imgur.com/3GR8j0I.png

http://imgur.com/CMeED40.png
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 23:34 GMT
#3712
I tracked Damdred, but that got bussed to Palmar. Palmar visited no one.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 23:41 GMT
#3727
On January 27 2016 08:38 sicklucker wrote:
Super were you notified you were roleblocked? there are doctors and potential unknown roles TT could be a vet for all we know

TT claimed using the BH role on Damdred day1. Pretty likely that he's BH I think.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 23:45 GMT
#3734
So, what we can deduce is that one of Damdred/disfo saved a NK, and one of GB/Koshi roleblocked Superbia?

Most likely, anyways.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 23:45 GMT
#3735
On January 27 2016 08:44 Superbia wrote:
Wait what challenger was GB again? I don't have him down as anything specific.

Kenpachi
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 23:47 GMT
#3739
On January 27 2016 08:46 Superbia wrote:
If onegu wasn't roleblocked/lying then the KP put on damdred was meant for palmar.

Onegu definitely wasn't roleblocked. His busdriver went through becuase I got tracking results for Palmar instead of Damdred.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 23:58 GMT
#3760
On January 27 2016 08:56 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 08:52 Palmar wrote:
I'm confirmed arrow obviously



Who were your 5 choices?

iirc

Breshke, me, VA, Rels, and....someone else who died n1. geript?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 27 2016 00:19 GMT
#3804
On January 27 2016 09:17 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 09:09 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:05 Tictock wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:51 Superbia wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote:
Super being RB'd just means mafia wanted to stop him from saving/killing anyone.

Implying that the RB happened to save me is silly kus he claimed who he would shoot at the last second.

Not like it helps prove I'm town, but it def doesn't confirm me as mafia.


Who do you think is the most likely to have blocked me, and why?

It guess GB, it's weird that he was pretty adamant about never claiming, then suddenly claimed last night.

Though tbh it's interesting that this is the 2nd time that you claim to shoot and it doesn't happen. I also get the benefit of knowing that you've only tried to kill town so far this game.

I disagree that Super and Rels are confirmed town, hell I'm still not sure I really trust Palmar.

Koshi and SL I'm fairly convinced are town. I'm also pretty convinced Disformation and Keir are town. That's where I'll make my start for looking over people today.


explain right now why you are more sure on SL than me.


SL tried to say I'm definitly mafia because FF said me and Kita were a team, but then started to mix things and and said that Kita was the one who was saying I was on a team with FF. If he was scum I don't think he'd flip the names around like that kus he'd actually know who is on his team.

You are pretty unlikely having cased Vivax and Kita early on, could still be that you are scum on the other team though.
Like Koshi said scumhunting doesn't really confirm you town in this setup kus for all we know your only scumhunting for one team.

Wait, how do you know Kita and Vivax were on the same team?

My intuition would say they were on OPPOSITE teams, in which case Palmar has been pushing to lynch people from botht eams?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 27 2016 00:30 GMT
#3831
On January 27 2016 09:21 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 09:19 Keirathi wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:17 Tictock wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:09 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:05 Tictock wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:51 Superbia wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:50 Tictock wrote:
Super being RB'd just means mafia wanted to stop him from saving/killing anyone.

Implying that the RB happened to save me is silly kus he claimed who he would shoot at the last second.

Not like it helps prove I'm town, but it def doesn't confirm me as mafia.


Who do you think is the most likely to have blocked me, and why?

It guess GB, it's weird that he was pretty adamant about never claiming, then suddenly claimed last night.

Though tbh it's interesting that this is the 2nd time that you claim to shoot and it doesn't happen. I also get the benefit of knowing that you've only tried to kill town so far this game.

I disagree that Super and Rels are confirmed town, hell I'm still not sure I really trust Palmar.

Koshi and SL I'm fairly convinced are town. I'm also pretty convinced Disformation and Keir are town. That's where I'll make my start for looking over people today.


explain right now why you are more sure on SL than me.


SL tried to say I'm definitly mafia because FF said me and Kita were a team, but then started to mix things and and said that Kita was the one who was saying I was on a team with FF. If he was scum I don't think he'd flip the names around like that kus he'd actually know who is on his team.

You are pretty unlikely having cased Vivax and Kita early on, could still be that you are scum on the other team though.
Like Koshi said scumhunting doesn't really confirm you town in this setup kus for all we know your only scumhunting for one team.

Wait, how do you know Kita and Vivax were on the same team?

My intuition would say they were on OPPOSITE teams, in which case Palmar has been pushing to lynch people from botht eams?


I said it could be the case, why do you think they were on different teams? I thought Palmar even made his big case about Kita's read on Vivax linking the two.

The way you said it implies knowledge of Kita/Vivax being on the same team. If you had said "You could still be scum if kita and vivax were on the same team and you were on the other one" or something like that.

It's weird phrasing for a townie to make.

(FWIW I think there are cases to be made either way. They could be on the same team [the way they overlapped numbers, kita saying "i guarantee two scum overlapped numbers"], but there's a lot of evidence they were on opposite teams too. Like FF refusing to comment on vivax with anything more than a sheep consolidation vote, etc. And I don't think FF and kita were on the same team becuase that would be stupid.)
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 27 2016 00:37 GMT
#3834
On January 27 2016 09:10 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 09:09 Koshi wrote:
On January 27 2016 09:05 Palmar wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:54 Onegu wrote:
On January 27 2016 08:48 Palmar wrote:
also 12 people alive, 5 are mafia.

palmar, koshi, rels, superbia, sicklucker get a pass.

The rest of you create cases on each other.



I just saved you from KP and I dont get a Pass? What do I have to do???

if you hadn't touched me, damdred would've saved me and not died... I think?

Is this true? If you are bussed with Damdred. And damdred protects you, doesn't damdred protect himself? So how did he die?

yeah I didn't think of that.

Are you willing to be responsible for a townread one onegu?

FWIW (which is probably not much at this point), I think it's fairly likely Onegu is town now.

The way he's used his role (aside from the way he claimed him), has been pretty pro-town. There were definitely 'better' ways a scum!onegu could have used his role to benefit his team than what he has so far.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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