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Keirathi
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On January 23 2016 08:21 Palmar wrote: I don't care what he is. I want him dead because there is no way vivax is this shit On January 23 2016 06:51 Palmar wrote: Well Vivax is hilariously bad as town too so there is a chance Which is it?  | ||
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Keirathi
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You've called me mafia multiple time. I semi-defended Vivax, and tried to get people to lynch geript instead. What happened to your scum read on me? Did you just forget about me, or just deice to pick on the low-hanging fruit? Also, "Damdred was hard defending Vivax in the last 30 minutes, tempted to say that makes him town" vs "Koshi was hard pushing Onegu the last 30 minutes, he definitely looks worse now". How do both of those together make sense?? | ||
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Keirathi
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On January 24 2016 06:18 sicklucker wrote: na just wifmoing but alot can confirm himself to some degree bad shot He can confirm his role, but his power can't really confirm his alignment which I already explained why. | ||
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Keirathi
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1) kitaman I'm like 90%+ sure that Kita is scum. And it really just comes down to one main thing - the way town!kita approaches the game vs the way scum!kita approaches the game. So, what's the difference? Let's take a look at some of the kind of posts that town!kita makes: + Show Spoiler [Just so this doesn't take up so…] + + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2015 11:20 kitaman27 wrote: What do you think about HF's town read on me? On March 30 2015 04:35 kitaman27 wrote: I actually found the post on sicklucker to not make much sense, as I commented earlier. Perhaps you can take a look at what I said and explain what makes it good. On March 30 2015 22:52 kitaman27 wrote: So to be clear, you attack me for my mason target because of my ability to read HF, but when given the opportunity to mason and read all 25 players at night you choose to ignore PMs? Lavos can be such a hypocrite sometimes. On March 30 2015 23:07 kitaman27 wrote: Where's your spine? What was the good point about sicklucker because it certainly wasn't that nonsense about allowing the coin flip people to talk about something else. Did it come down to filter size for a guy who hadn't even been in the thread all day? I want a refund. There's plenty more examples of these types of posts, so feel free to look for yourselves. Now, take a look at kita's posts THIS game. Town!kita is inquisitive. He engages with the thread, gets people to interact with him asking them questions about their reads, poking holes at problem posts, etc etc. The kita this game is just...passive. He's just talking AT the thread, rather than WITH the thread. And even the few questions that he does have are just..."soft" questions. He has no bite. He's just along for the ride. He's scum. 2) geript So, one of the key things that has made me stick on my geript so long is some of the back history between geript and I, and it's kind of hard to fully explain. For a long time now, geript has thought I was a really good player. He PMs me occasionally to invite me to play in games with him, or games he's hosting. I tried to join a game once that was full, and he talked someone into /out'ing so that I could play. He (seems to) really enjoy playing with me, and respects my town ability. So, then I go and write a big post on why I think he's scum, and what does he do? He just flat out ignores it. Ignores me unless I ask him a direct question, despite the fact that he ostensibly has me as a really strong town read. It doesn't make any sense from a town!geript, and makes a TON of sense from a scum!geript, especially if I die tonight. So, take a look back at my post on geript again. I think there's a pretty good chance he's scum. Those are the two I feel most confident about. Some other random reads (not everyone though, I'm lazy). Breshke: Going into day 1, I had him as a really high town read for a couple of reasons. Firstly, at the end of night 0, he already had more posts than he had EVER had as scum. Granted that's slightly mitigated by the fact that night0 here was pretty low-stakes and post count is never the be-all-end-all of mafia reads, but it says something if someone starts playing differently than they normally do as a specific alignment. Then there are these two posts (emphasis mine): On January 19 2016 23:21 Breshke wrote: I vote onegu for dreamflower. Great plan koshi ill make sure my team N1's you On January 20 2016 23:14 Breshke wrote: I also dont udnerstand rels why you would not want me to pick watson even if I was mafia. Im 7, that is fairly high if i was mafia i would probably the highest or second highest on my team. i could probably get a role that does KP if I wanted to. I know I am not a good player especially scum player so WIFOM ALERT would happily sack myself and take down some people with me. Instead Im claiming to take watson which if you actually think about it would be perfect for someone you suspect. If i lie to sherlock or moriarty about their sanity it would become apparent very quickly. So can you explain why even if i am a mafia read me picking watson would be bad? The first post: I think it's pretty rare for actual scum to make posts like that. The exception is, of course, people who are confident in their scum game, or just have a lot of experience as scum and can play fairly close tot he same way they do as town. But he admits that he isn't a particularly good scum player (Database backs that up, at least on the surface). But he's willing to say that he's scum and going to NK Koshi? I don't particularly buy it. Plus, the fact that his first choice of role was Watson, and he was advocating for town to pick all 3 of the sherlock characters etc. The fact that his activity has fallen off is my biggest concern with him right now. If he comes back and starts playing reasonably again, he's probably town. ASKLDJALSKD I ran out of time. The other people I have in the possible scum list right now are: Onegu, Tictock, maybe Damdred still, maybe Cake, maybe Alot. I have at least some reasons to think everyone else is town. Sorry I don't have more to go on here, I just ran out of time  Tracking geript tonight. | ||
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Keirathi
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Keirathi
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No, I tracked geript. The result I got was "Koshi visited Tictock". Bus driving doesn't change who their targets were, just who my target is. | ||
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Keirathi
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On January 24 2016 09:10 Fecalfeast wrote: wait assuming disform isn't lying about sanities, breshke had a red check (Insane gives the opposite check, right?) Any way to see who he checked, did he breadcrumb it? But Kita supposedly used his mass frame too. So that inverts the results again? | ||
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Keirathi
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You don't get to act like you're God and then when you're wrong blame it on everyone else. That's bullshit. Nothing is ever your fault. You're just being an asshole for no reason. | ||
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Keirathi
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Go ahead and lynch me and get it over with. Then blame me some more after you do it for good measure. | ||
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Keirathi
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On January 24 2016 09:33 kitaman27 wrote: Keir, could I get your top three scum reads and thoughts on FF, GB, and TT? I still think you and onegu are scum. That didn't mysteriously change in the last 2 hours. Past that I'm not sure and don't really care. Gb scum side of neutral Ff town Tt probably scum but not more than you and onegu I'll explain more later. | ||
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Keirathi
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The OP doesn't specify, though. Would be a good idea to clarify. | ||
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Keirathi
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On January 24 2016 13:14 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me how kita is Mafia but you don't think twice before killing VA instead of him He could only kill people on his list. Kita wasn't on his list. You could maybe ask why kita wasn't on his list, but it makes sense if he was sure he could get kita lynched today. | ||
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Keirathi
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Sorry FF if you're town. I thought you were but can't ignore red check. | ||
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On January 26 2016 08:50 Superbia wrote: Hmm. I wonder if he would still get a message whether he got roleblocked. Someone confirmed earlier that all roleblocks are notified no matter what, I think? | ||
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On January 26 2016 09:00 Damdred wrote: Idk I'd have to read the day again I thought someone had a red check on someone but was inverted shrug. Troll kita is troll Holmes (Breshke) had a green check on someone, but we don't know who. He was also insane, according to disfo, and maybe Kita used his mass frame. So, not much to go on. | ||
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Keirathi
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On January 26 2016 11:02 GlowingBear wrote: Why are you stupid? It looks like a clear slip to me 3 Mafia are dead, so it's either 4/1 or 3/2 just because math. The only way it could be 4/1 is if Kita and Ff were on a team together. So, yea it's 3/2 now. | ||
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Keirathi
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On January 26 2016 11:16 CopCake wrote: You could be mafia that hit mafia Koshi, nothing new there but yeah you are morw town now. There's very, very little chance Koshi is Mafia. 0.00001% 1) shooting Kita. 2) He was targeted with kp last night and onegu bussed it to geript 3) He didn't carry out kp himself last night. I tracked him visiting TT, which TT verified was a roleblock. There's very little chance Mafia!Koshi wouldn't have been one of the two taking the shot last night considering he was in pretty good standing townie wise, so therefor unlikely to be tracked. None of those singularly make Koshi town, but all together they almost certainly do. | ||
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Keirathi
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Someone shoot me tonight, or just lynch me tomorrow please. | ||
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