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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 22 2016 23:27 GMT
#2321
On January 23 2016 08:21 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2016 08:16 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2016 08:16 Palmar wrote:
On January 23 2016 08:13 Onegu wrote:
Is the only reason you guys are not switching off of Vivax because you think you might give him one shot?


No, he should be lynched



so you dont believe he is lemming?

I don't care what he is.

I want him dead because there is no way vivax is this shit


On January 23 2016 06:51 Palmar wrote:
Well Vivax is hilariously bad as town too so there is a chance


Which is it?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 23 2016 01:17 GMT
#2489
Wait wait wait Kita.

You've called me mafia multiple time. I semi-defended Vivax, and tried to get people to lynch geript instead.

What happened to your scum read on me? Did you just forget about me, or just deice to pick on the low-hanging fruit?

Also, "Damdred was hard defending Vivax in the last 30 minutes, tempted to say that makes him town" vs "Koshi was hard pushing Onegu the last 30 minutes, he definitely looks worse now". How do both of those together make sense??
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 23 2016 01:19 GMT
#2490
EBWOP: Decide*
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 23 2016 21:20 GMT
#2640
On January 24 2016 06:18 sicklucker wrote:
na just wifmoing but alot can confirm himself to some degree bad shot

He can confirm his role, but his power can't really confirm his alignment which I already explained why.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 23 2016 22:59 GMT
#2723
Some end of night thoughts in case I die:

1) kitaman

I'm like 90%+ sure that Kita is scum. And it really just comes down to one main thing - the way town!kita approaches the game vs the way scum!kita approaches the game.

So, what's the difference? Let's take a look at some of the kind of posts that town!kita makes:

+ Show Spoiler [Just so this doesn't take up so…] +

+ Show Spoiler +
These are taken from Kita's filter in Aperture 4

On March 29 2015 11:20 kitaman27 wrote:
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On March 29 2015 10:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:55 Koshi wrote:
Why is kita town JAT?

I am not saying he is town (hint: that's what HF did)


What do you think about HF's town read on me?


On March 29 2015 12:29 kitaman27 wrote:
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On March 29 2015 12:01 Snarfs wrote:
I got HF, rsoultn, Koshi, kita(because of HF), wave, chez as town. Very similar to crossfire, not sold on keirathi but that seems like a good start.


Do you have any non-town reads yet?


On March 30 2015 04:35 kitaman27 wrote:
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On March 30 2015 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Furthermore, you're not really understanding what I"m trying to say about Trefl in general. Sicklucker post was good on its own. Paired with the 2nd, it is bad.


I actually found the post on sicklucker to not make much sense, as I commented earlier. Perhaps you can take a look at what I said and explain what makes it good.


On March 30 2015 22:52 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Remove Kita, he masoned HF instead of someone he can read.


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On March 30 2015 08:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
For the record any PMs sent to me in the night will be summarily ignored.


So to be clear, you attack me for my mason target because of my ability to read HF, but when given the opportunity to mason and read all 25 players at night you choose to ignore PMs?

Lavos can be such a hypocrite sometimes.


On March 30 2015 23:07 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 07:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Sigh. Sickulcker seems like such a cop-out vote. I don't see how an anti-town 3rd party is claiming in his situation.


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On March 30 2015 07:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Regardless, I don't think you're being lynched. HF has a good point about sicklucker.


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On March 30 2015 07:57 Hapahauli wrote:
I'll let HF do his thing with sicklucker. I think my vote pushed him to #1.


Where's your spine? What was the good point about sicklucker because it certainly wasn't that nonsense about allowing the coin flip people to talk about something else. Did it come down to filter size for a guy who hadn't even been in the thread all day?

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On March 30 2015 07:26 Holyflare wrote:
a lynch on sl is a lynch on guaranteed not town!


I want a refund.



There's plenty more examples of these types of posts, so feel free to look for yourselves. Now, take a look at kita's posts THIS game.

Town!kita is inquisitive. He engages with the thread, gets people to interact with him asking them questions about their reads, poking holes at problem posts, etc etc. The kita this game is just...passive. He's just talking AT the thread, rather than WITH the thread. And even the few questions that he does have are just..."soft" questions.

He has no bite. He's just along for the ride.

He's scum.

2) geript

So, one of the key things that has made me stick on my geript so long is some of the back history between geript and I, and it's kind of hard to fully explain.

For a long time now, geript has thought I was a really good player. He PMs me occasionally to invite me to play in games with him, or games he's hosting. I tried to join a game once that was full, and he talked someone into /out'ing so that I could play. He (seems to) really enjoy playing with me, and respects my town ability.

So, then I go and write a big post on why I think he's scum, and what does he do? He just flat out ignores it. Ignores me unless I ask him a direct question, despite the fact that he ostensibly has me as a really strong town read. It doesn't make any sense from a town!geript, and makes a TON of sense from a scum!geript, especially if I die tonight.

So, take a look back at my post on geript again. I think there's a pretty good chance he's scum.




Those are the two I feel most confident about. Some other random reads (not everyone though, I'm lazy).

Breshke: Going into day 1, I had him as a really high town read for a couple of reasons. Firstly, at the end of night 0, he already had more posts than he had EVER had as scum. Granted that's slightly mitigated by the fact that night0 here was pretty low-stakes and post count is never the be-all-end-all of mafia reads, but it says something if someone starts playing differently than they normally do as a specific alignment.

Then there are these two posts (emphasis mine):

On January 19 2016 23:21 Breshke wrote:
I vote onegu for dreamflower. Great plan koshi ill make sure my team N1's you


On January 20 2016 23:14 Breshke wrote:
I also dont udnerstand rels why you would not want me to pick watson even if I was mafia.

Im 7, that is fairly high if i was mafia i would probably the highest or second highest on my team. i could probably get a role that does KP if I wanted to. I know I am not a good player especially scum player so WIFOM ALERT would happily sack myself and take down some people with me.

Instead Im claiming to take watson which if you actually think about it would be perfect for someone you suspect. If i lie to sherlock or moriarty about their sanity it would become apparent very quickly.

So can you explain why even if i am a mafia read me picking watson would be bad?


The first post: I think it's pretty rare for actual scum to make posts like that. The exception is, of course, people who are confident in their scum game, or just have a lot of experience as scum and can play fairly close tot he same way they do as town.

But he admits that he isn't a particularly good scum player (Database backs that up, at least on the surface). But he's willing to say that he's scum and going to NK Koshi? I don't particularly buy it.

Plus, the fact that his first choice of role was Watson, and he was advocating for town to pick all 3 of the sherlock characters etc.

The fact that his activity has fallen off is my biggest concern with him right now. If he comes back and starts playing reasonably again, he's probably town.





ASKLDJALSKD I ran out of time.

The other people I have in the possible scum list right now are: Onegu, Tictock, maybe Damdred still, maybe Cake, maybe Alot.

I have at least some reasons to think everyone else is town. Sorry I don't have more to go on here, I just ran out of time

Tracking geript tonight.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 24 2016 00:08 GMT
#2793
I tracked Koshi to Tictock.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 24 2016 00:11 GMT
#2799
On January 24 2016 09:08 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 09:08 Keirathi wrote:
I tracked Koshi to Tictock.



Nope you tracked Geript to him

No, I tracked geript. The result I got was "Koshi visited Tictock".

Bus driving doesn't change who their targets were, just who my target is.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 24 2016 00:12 GMT
#2803
On January 24 2016 09:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
wait assuming disform isn't lying about sanities, breshke had a red check (Insane gives the opposite check, right?)

Any way to see who he checked, did he breadcrumb it?

But Kita supposedly used his mass frame too. So that inverts the results again?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 24 2016 00:30 GMT
#2832
Fuck off Palmar.

You don't get to act like you're God and then when you're wrong blame it on everyone else. That's bullshit. Nothing is ever your fault.

You're just being an asshole for no reason.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 24 2016 00:31 GMT
#2833
Guess what? You're wrong about me too.

Go ahead and lynch me and get it over with. Then blame me some more after you do it for good measure.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 24 2016 00:44 GMT
#2848
On January 24 2016 09:33 kitaman27 wrote:
Keir, could I get your top three scum reads and thoughts on FF, GB, and TT?

I still think you and onegu are scum. That didn't mysteriously change in the last 2 hours. Past that I'm not sure and don't really care.

Gb scum side of neutral
Ff town
Tt probably scum but not more than you and onegu

I'll explain more later.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 24 2016 01:57 GMT
#2875
Typically, either all roleblocks are notified regardless of if an action was used or not, or no roleblocks are notified.

The OP doesn't specify, though. Would be a good idea to clarify.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 24 2016 05:13 GMT
#2916
On January 24 2016 13:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 09:03 Palmar wrote:
The other two people on my list are keirathi and Rels

I don't really care now


Tell me how kita is Mafia but you don't think twice before killing VA instead of him

He could only kill people on his list. Kita wasn't on his list.

You could maybe ask why kita wasn't on his list, but it makes sense if he was sure he could get kita lynched today.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 25 2016 21:13 GMT
#3282
Oh I should probably vote.

Sorry FF if you're town. I thought you were but can't ignore red check.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 25 2016 23:54 GMT
#3378
On January 26 2016 08:50 Superbia wrote:
Hmm. I wonder if he would still get a message whether he got roleblocked.

Someone confirmed earlier that all roleblocks are notified no matter what, I think?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 00:00 GMT
#3409
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 00:02 GMT
#3416
On January 26 2016 09:00 Damdred wrote:
Idk I'd have to read the day again I thought someone had a red check on someone but was inverted shrug.

Troll kita is troll

Holmes (Breshke) had a green check on someone, but we don't know who. He was also insane, according to disfo, and maybe Kita used his mass frame. So, not much to go on.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 03:17 GMT
#3462
On January 26 2016 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 09:23 disformation wrote:
On January 26 2016 09:22 disformation wrote:
On January 26 2016 09:21 Superbia wrote:
Yo mafia is:

3
v
2

3, if you wipe out the 2 you never have to be afraid of night kp hitting you.

2, you're way behind the 3. Better make things equal or even better, get ahead.

Just remember, I'm hitting a mafia. It could be one from your team. Do you want to fall behind the other mafia team?

How do you know it is 2v3? Oo

nevermind am stupid.


Why are you stupid? It looks like a clear slip to me

3 Mafia are dead, so it's either 4/1 or 3/2 just because math.

The only way it could be 4/1 is if Kita and Ff were on a team together.

So, yea it's 3/2 now.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 03:27 GMT
#3464
On January 26 2016 11:16 CopCake wrote:
You could be mafia that hit mafia Koshi, nothing new there but yeah you are morw town now.


There's very, very little chance Koshi is Mafia. 0.00001%

1) shooting Kita.
2) He was targeted with kp last night and onegu bussed it to geript
3) He didn't carry out kp himself last night. I tracked him visiting TT, which TT verified was a roleblock. There's very little chance Mafia!Koshi wouldn't have been one of the two taking the shot last night considering he was in pretty good standing townie wise, so therefor unlikely to be tracked.

None of those singularly make Koshi town, but all together they almost certainly do.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 26 2016 19:56 GMT
#3648
I keep trying to read filters and figure the game out, but I have no fucking clue, and Palmar killed me desire to keep playing.

Someone shoot me tonight, or just lynch me tomorrow please.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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