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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 20 2016 14:14 GMT
#981
I also dont udnerstand rels why you would not want me to pick watson even if I was mafia.

Im 7, that is fairly high if i was mafia i would probably the highest or second highest on my team. i could probably get a role that does KP if I wanted to. I know I am not a good player especially scum player so WIFOM ALERT would happily sack myself and take down some people with me.

Instead Im claiming to take watson which if you actually think about it would be perfect for someone you suspect. If i lie to sherlock or moriarty about their sanity it would become apparent very quickly.

So can you explain why even if i am a mafia read me picking watson would be bad?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 14:17 GMT
#982
On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote:
Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup?

I had this feeling when you "kindly" adviced me to take the number 7. You already did it to FF. Since then you did nothing but you have 2 pages of filter anyway.
Who is scum in your opinion ?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22418 Posts
January 20 2016 14:17 GMT
#983
On January 20 2016 03:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 00:55 Vivax wrote:
Picking 1 1, obviously a lie.

Obviously the truth.

Pretty much sums up why this shitty number claiming strat won't do jack.

Vivax is mafia. Not simply because he refuses to cooperate but because he refuses to cooperate AND that is everything he brings to the table.



What should I bring to the table besides that the claiming plan was stupid? In that phase there's literally nothing interesting besides people arguing about the picks.

I love these type of arguments where someone is mafia cause he did something that in his opinion was more than sufficient at that stage, and then you sayy they're mafia cause they didn't bring anything else without going into specifics.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 14:19 GMT
#984
On January 20 2016 23:14 Breshke wrote:
I also dont udnerstand rels why you would not want me to pick watson even if I was mafia.

Im 7, that is fairly high if i was mafia i would probably the highest or second highest on my team. i could probably get a role that does KP if I wanted to. I know I am not a good player especially scum player so WIFOM ALERT would happily sack myself and take down some people with me.

Instead Im claiming to take watson which if you actually think about it would be perfect for someone you suspect. If i lie to sherlock or moriarty about their sanity it would become apparent very quickly.

So can you explain why even if i am a mafia read me picking watson would be bad?

You know that's actually super true. If you lie about their sanity we'll know pretty fast. The problems is that Watson is also a doctor, so if you're scum we're giving you a protective role, but it's better than a KP role.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22418 Posts
January 20 2016 14:19 GMT
#985
On January 20 2016 22:44 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 22:41 Vivax wrote:
I'm fine with bringing kita down in the selection but I also wanted a piece of the cake.

kita 4,1 you 4,1 had 50/50% chance on both of you getting places 10/11
kita 4,1 you 4,2 had 100% on kita getting place 10 and you getting place 11
Obiously you didn't know the place number, but the principle is still the same for any placement
I don't understand what you seeked to achieve by taking 4,2 instead of 4,1 ?


Oh it was a misunderstanding on my part then, I thought that if we both pick 4 1 then we get even lower or get a mysterious challenger role or shennies like that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 14:21 GMT
#986
On January 20 2016 23:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote:
Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup?

I had this feeling when you "kindly" adviced me to take the number 7. You already did it to FF. Since then you did nothing but you have 2 pages of filter anyway.
Who is scum in your opinion ?

Talking about this post:
On January 19 2016 23:29 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 23:24 Rels wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:23 Breshke wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:19 Rels wrote:
Caught up.
On January 19 2016 13:34 Damdred wrote:
It sort of does, oneg trolls in x way as town and t way as scum. Its just hard to quantify.

but yeah couple town leans at this point.

Since you didn't state them, can you expand ?


I'm not sure that damdred knows the actual answers you would need to ask geript i think.

I also dropped it because while geript can give some nice meta reads I don't think you are going to get much from this one im fairly sure it is more of a "feelings" thing. But lets see

I'm asking for his townleans p: I saw geript's "Mm can't really explain this feeling" post, seemed super townie to me.


Yep derp soz

Also there is a chance FF is choosing 7,1 because i told him that was free but he never really said anything about it. Just a warning for ya

Like you did a kinda useless post in which you told FF to take 7, then you reminded the thread you did that one post.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 20 2016 14:23 GMT
#987
On January 20 2016 23:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote:
Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup?

I had this feeling when you "kindly" adviced me to take the number 7. You already did it to FF. Since then you did nothing but you have 2 pages of filter anyway.
Who is scum in your opinion ?


I was telling you that FF might pick 7 so you should have been careful?

Not really intrested in talking about who is scum right now because i have piddles because nothing has really happened.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 20 2016 14:27 GMT
#988
On January 20 2016 23:21 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:17 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote:
Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup?

I had this feeling when you "kindly" adviced me to take the number 7. You already did it to FF. Since then you did nothing but you have 2 pages of filter anyway.
Who is scum in your opinion ?

Talking about this post:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 23:29 Breshke wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:24 Rels wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:23 Breshke wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:19 Rels wrote:
Caught up.
On January 19 2016 13:34 Damdred wrote:
It sort of does, oneg trolls in x way as town and t way as scum. Its just hard to quantify.

but yeah couple town leans at this point.

Since you didn't state them, can you expand ?


I'm not sure that damdred knows the actual answers you would need to ask geript i think.

I also dropped it because while geript can give some nice meta reads I don't think you are going to get much from this one im fairly sure it is more of a "feelings" thing. But lets see

I'm asking for his townleans p: I saw geript's "Mm can't really explain this feeling" post, seemed super townie to me.


Yep derp soz

Also there is a chance FF is choosing 7,1 because i told him that was free but he never really said anything about it. Just a warning for ya

Like you did a kinda useless post in which you told FF to take 7, then you reminded the thread you did that one post.


No, I was telling you that you might be overlapping

On January 20 2016 23:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:14 Breshke wrote:
I also dont udnerstand rels why you would not want me to pick watson even if I was mafia.

Im 7, that is fairly high if i was mafia i would probably the highest or second highest on my team. i could probably get a role that does KP if I wanted to. I know I am not a good player especially scum player so WIFOM ALERT would happily sack myself and take down some people with me.

Instead Im claiming to take watson which if you actually think about it would be perfect for someone you suspect. If i lie to sherlock or moriarty about their sanity it would become apparent very quickly.

So can you explain why even if i am a mafia read me picking watson would be bad?

You know that's actually super true. If you lie about their sanity we'll know pretty fast. The problems is that Watson is also a doctor, so if you're scum we're giving you a protective role, but it's better than a KP role.


Why is the bolded included in this post. You disagree with yourself in the same sentence what's the point?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 14:29 GMT
#989
On January 20 2016 21:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 21:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 20 2016 20:06 sicklucker wrote:
Ya they are a lil likely town for missing it but its pretty null. Gb especially would try less as mafia and didnt have a pregame excuse


They are likely town
But it's pretty null

:S

Also, after outlaw, these suspicions are completely false. You also recently played games with me where my activity dropped because of my new job.

You're probably mafia

He's probably wrong but he's also probably town 'cause he's organising the town => likely to get shot by the other family if he's scum; and 'cause of the two dumbtells now.



this how can anyone honestly think mi scum at this point...
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 20 2016 14:30 GMT
#990
On January 20 2016 20:28 Vivax wrote:
I had good reason not to partake in that plan where mafia has all the numbers nicely presented for their team to coordinate.


I still don't get this. ALL players had the numbers presented for them to coordinate, how does that make it beneficial to just mafia? Like if you lie about your number as mafia, that just means you're overlapping with a different townie so it's not like you're going to magically jump 10 spots. If anything, keeping all the numbers hidden means more coordination for mafia because only they know what they are going to pick aka the "6 players choosing [9]" like a previous pyp.

On January 20 2016 22:39 Vivax wrote:
Palmar pretends to care but all he wants is just to skate by as the mafia eminence and let others do the work for him, while trying to lynch me. He is also a real sucker for kita's argument against me which was an argument a player like kita wouldn't bring as town, since I assume he knows me well enough. And on top of it the argument was bad,


Eh I've only seen you play town like twice over the past 2-3 years so I'm not really sure I have anything in mind regarding how "Vivax plays town". It's more a "things scum commonly do" read. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying 100% like Palmar, but yes there are alignment indicative things to talk about and you haven't brought up any yet.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 14:31 GMT
#991
On January 20 2016 21:26 Palmar wrote:
I'm back and realizing I need to hand out townreads more easily for this to ever work I'm starting with rels for getting super excited about a mechanic.


i agree
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 14:32 GMT
#992
On January 20 2016 23:27 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:21 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:17 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote:
Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup?

I had this feeling when you "kindly" adviced me to take the number 7. You already did it to FF. Since then you did nothing but you have 2 pages of filter anyway.
Who is scum in your opinion ?

Talking about this post:
On January 19 2016 23:29 Breshke wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:24 Rels wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:23 Breshke wrote:
On January 19 2016 23:19 Rels wrote:
Caught up.
On January 19 2016 13:34 Damdred wrote:
It sort of does, oneg trolls in x way as town and t way as scum. Its just hard to quantify.

but yeah couple town leans at this point.

Since you didn't state them, can you expand ?


I'm not sure that damdred knows the actual answers you would need to ask geript i think.

I also dropped it because while geript can give some nice meta reads I don't think you are going to get much from this one im fairly sure it is more of a "feelings" thing. But lets see

I'm asking for his townleans p: I saw geript's "Mm can't really explain this feeling" post, seemed super townie to me.


Yep derp soz

Also there is a chance FF is choosing 7,1 because i told him that was free but he never really said anything about it. Just a warning for ya

Like you did a kinda useless post in which you told FF to take 7, then you reminded the thread you did that one post.


No, I was telling you that you might be overlapping

Yep and that seemed like a kinda useless way to post, and your filter feels exactly this way.

On January 20 2016 23:27 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:19 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:14 Breshke wrote:
I also dont udnerstand rels why you would not want me to pick watson even if I was mafia.

Im 7, that is fairly high if i was mafia i would probably the highest or second highest on my team. i could probably get a role that does KP if I wanted to. I know I am not a good player especially scum player so WIFOM ALERT would happily sack myself and take down some people with me.

Instead Im claiming to take watson which if you actually think about it would be perfect for someone you suspect. If i lie to sherlock or moriarty about their sanity it would become apparent very quickly.

So can you explain why even if i am a mafia read me picking watson would be bad?

You know that's actually super true. If you lie about their sanity we'll know pretty fast. The problems is that Watson is also a doctor, so if you're scum we're giving you a protective role, but it's better than a KP role.


Why is the bolded included in this post. You disagree with yourself in the same sentence what's the point?

Yep I was thinking loudly. I'm OK with you having Watson actually, since you can't lie about sanity if you're scum and that's a big part of the role.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 20 2016 14:34 GMT
#993
Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 20 2016 14:36 GMT
#994
I'm going to bed.

Rels it is really annoying when I explain something to you then you say it back to me like you are letting me know
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 14:37 GMT
#995
On January 20 2016 23:06 Breshke wrote:
Rels why do you scum me for talking about setup and then continue to only talk about setup and ask me a question which was about the setup?


this is just mafia salt
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
January 20 2016 14:38 GMT
#996
Yeah SL and you not PM'ing the hosts right isnt a dumbtell its just dumb
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 20 2016 14:39 GMT
#997
On January 20 2016 12:52 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 07:32 disformation wrote:
Okay, everyone I am back. Skimmed the pages I missed.
Not really liking Vivax and CopCake so far. Both seem rather uncooperative.

Excuse me I claimed to have been busy, you mafia looking for someone to blame dude?

Nah, town looking for scum. I'll be honest: inactivity is a bit of a turn-off for me.
TBH was a bit turned-off that you didn't claim which number you picked, hence the uncooperative bit, but it seems like you didn't even picked one... so nvm for now.

On January 20 2016 21:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Do we have a voting thread? I can't find a voting thread

voting thread


So being #13 I don't really want to pick something that might be taken. Could go traditional doc or JK.
I just hope I don't get weak cop. around 33% or 38% of dying N1, depending on whether we lynch scum D1 seems a bit harsh. :/
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 14:41 GMT
#998
On January 20 2016 23:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D


Good. You are 100% Spybotting n1 then. This also frames everyone so alignments will be inversed (I believe).

Moreover I'm not sold on giving Breshke the Watson role. There's more than enough bullshit roles that can invert alignments or targets (dr sy n tist being one of them) so blame can always be shifted. Regardless of breshke's actual alignment. Watson needs to be 99% reliable.
Minimal effort.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 20 2016 14:41 GMT
#999
On January 20 2016 23:39 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 12:52 CopCake wrote:
On January 20 2016 07:32 disformation wrote:
Okay, everyone I am back. Skimmed the pages I missed.
Not really liking Vivax and CopCake so far. Both seem rather uncooperative.

Excuse me I claimed to have been busy, you mafia looking for someone to blame dude?

Nah, town looking for scum. I'll be honest: inactivity is a bit of a turn-off for me.
TBH was a bit turned-off that you didn't claim which number you picked, hence the uncooperative bit, but it seems like you didn't even picked one... so nvm for now.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 21:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Do we have a voting thread? I can't find a voting thread

voting thread


So being #13 I don't really want to pick something that might be taken. Could go traditional doc or JK.
I just hope I don't get weak cop. around 33% or 38% of dying N1, depending on whether we lynch scum D1 seems a bit harsh. :/


I'd rather you picked doc than JK to be honest.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 14:41 GMT
#1000
On January 20 2016 23:38 Breshke wrote:
Yeah SL and you not PM'ing the hosts right isnt a dumbtell its just dumb


a mistake mafia probably cant make because of the scum qt. oh wait you already scum slipped that mafia cant put there numbers in that. thanks for that
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